Sigelei 213 owners thread

[Aaron Peik]

mine fluctuates maybe 1% of so on the bar, but my voltage on batteries only jumps maybe .05. is this with new batteries and all contacts clean? They could have used some smoothing on the numbers it reads.

Also yes it does TCR/TFR and you can use steam engine to figure out how to use TFR. It does it all.b

 

[Topweasel]

A couple of questions before I buy.
1- Does this mod do TCR? I use only SS430 so need that.
2- Do I set watts in power mode then switch to TC mode where the watts will be the same as set in power mode? That's how I understand it. Not talking about preheat here.

I haven't bought a sigelei since my old 'Lightsabre' 20W VW device. Which is still going strong in a relatives hands. Very reliable, a quality I'm looking for what with the FDA screwing things up.

1. One of it's major features is TCR and TFR and each has 5 slots for memory.
2. No each setting has its own power or temp setting and preheat setting. So even when popping between the 3 SS profiles they have each one has it's own unique settings. The preheat is basically setting power level. You set power and length of time. Assuming you have reached or exceeded the temp you have set, once the preheat time has ended it will fall into TC. Most devices use the power setting you have set for TC as a preheat power setting and just has a preheat period of time probably .2-.4 seconds. This just lets you tailor it to your liking. The only trick is you have to get to temp before the end of the preheat you set or it will just maintain that power setting till you finally hit temp (if ever).

I have this issue, half the people in this forum say it is normal the other half says it's broken. Some say theirs doesn't do it at all on the % bar. I dunno

It's not an issue. This graphic like many others is not fluid there is not a representation on the graphic for each percentage point. On top of that its based on voltage information from the battery that fluctuates at idle and on top of that one battery is feeding the board and that battery is going sag ever so slightly more when looking at it. In theory a .1v difference in battery charge is 10% but in actuality it's a little different than that the drop from 4.2 to 4.1 might only be 5% but the drop in between 3.8 and 3.7 could be 15%-20% so dependent on when you look at the screen, what the actual battery level is at, what charge points mean what on the graphic, whether you recently fired the unit or not, and the current voltage fluctuation is at the more that graphic and even the charge percentages can waiver.

I love the amount of information the device gives us but I am starting to wonder with how people are over analyzing it, that maybe Sigelei shouldn't have gone with a live feed and instead polled it ever half second or so.

 

[rice721]

A couple of questions before I buy.
1- Does this mod do TCR? I use only SS430 so need that.
2- Do I set watts in power mode then switch to TC mode where the watts will be the same as set in power mode? That's how I understand it. Not talking about preheat here.

I haven't bought a Sigelei since my old 'Lightsabre' 20W VW device. Which is still going strong in a relatives hands. Very reliable, a quality I'm looking for what with the FDA screwing things up.

1. Yes it does TCR it even does TFR
2. Not sure if thats going to set your wattage for TC, its only got the preheat wattage option.

 

[MadVLN]

mine fluctuates maybe 1% of so on the bar, but my voltage on batteries only jumps maybe .05. is this with new batteries and all contacts clean? They could have used some smoothing on the numbers it reads.

Also yes it does TCR/TFR and you can use steam engine to figure out how to use TFR. It does it all.b

they are being measured real time. those numbers (.05 and 1%) are minute, so they are going to fluctuate. the could have rounded the numbers to .0 instead of .00, but it wouldn't be as cool IMO.



@ShowerHead yes, in the preheat settings you set your wattage. if you don't want any preheating, just set your preheat time to the minimum, which is 0.01 seconds. it is sorta strange, but the wattage is adjusted in the "preheat power adjustment" part of the menu. (hold UP+fire button)

 

[SteamHead]

I could resist no longer.

Gold 213 on the way.

 

[VidGamrJ]

Hey guys, got my 213 today and it rocks!

Anyway down to business, misfires. I've had a couple. I also discovered what is causing them, for me at least. After I had my first one, I made a mental note to keep holding the firing button if it happens again. When it happened again, I held the button and looked at the screen, it was blank. I had a suspicion as to why this happened so I tested it.

I pressed the fire button to light the screen up and then counted how long it took to go out. I did this again, except this time I pressed the fire button at the same exact time that I expected the screen to go out. Sure enough, that caused a misfire.

I repeated this multiple times with the same results.

The screen with stay lit for 13 seconds after you release the fire button. If you try to fire the mod again at that 13 second mark, it will not fire.

I hope this helps, and I hope it can be patched.


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[MadVLN]

Hey guys, got my 213 today and it rocks!

Anyway down to business, misfires. I've had a couple. I also discovered what is causing them, for me at least. After I had my first one, I made a mental note to keep holding the firing button if it happens again. When it happened again, I held the button and looked at the screen, it was blank. I had a suspicion as to why this happened so I tested it.

I pressed the fire button to light the screen up and then counted how long it took to go out. I did this again, except this time I pressed the fire button at the same exact time that I expected the screen to go out. Sure enough, that caused a misfire.

I repeated this multiple times with the same results.

The screen with stay lit for 13 seconds after you release the fire button. If you try to fire the mod again at that 13 second mark, it will not fire.

I hope this helps, and I hope it can be patched.


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wow, i just tried that and you are right. i couldn't do it on my own. i set my timer on my phone for 0:13 and sure enough, misfire. i'm still not certain if that is what was going on with mine, but definitely a possibility. good find!

 

[VidGamrJ]

wow, i just tried that and you are right. i couldn't do it on my own. i set my timer on my phone for 0:13 and sure enough, misfire. i'm still not certain if that is what was going on with mine, but definitely a possibility. good find!

I haven't had any issues when chain vaping it. The misfires I had only came when I was casually taking puffs here and there. I had a feeling that the mod going to "sleep" might be the problem and I was right.

Something like this is going to cause a lot of misfires for some people depending on how they vape.

 

[Topweasel]

Lol, all those miss-fires and just happens to be a poor timing. Any test on how long after it goes to sleep before you can fire it again? I kind of have to laugh if its just that 13th second.

But it got me thinking. I had another device and I only had it happen twice, the Tesla Nano 100 (steampunk) that I thought might have miss fired but again it was so rare and by the time I noticed it not firing I already brought my finger off the trigger which meant I wasn't able to confirm that I was pressing it correctly. Now I am wondering if it was like this device and I was just catching it going to sleep. Note: I have not witnessed any missfire on my Sig 213.

The impact of this oversight/issue on me is non existent and if the misfires is really just this, then I am a bit relieved going forward that there isn't necessarily electrical problems but just a design or chip oversight. My standard vaping when relaxing is generally two or three big vapes in quick succession and then sit it down for 3-10 minutes rinse repeat. Hope a firmware update can resolve this for you guys. I might recommend putting pressure on Suprimo rather than Sig. As it stands its a catch 22 now that you know what it is, its not necessarily a defective piece (assuming your misfires is caused by this). On the other-hand depending on vaping tendencies this is vape affecting and might not be the device for you.

 

[ShowerHead]

Thank to all who replied.
I'm now the happy holder of an order confirmation for a gunmetal 213.
I guess I'll get used to the power setting method, makes sense after thinking about it.
Nice find on the 'misfire' too. If I get it, I'll at least know what is happening instead of calling the vendor.
Perhaps that will be a reason for Sigelei to do their first update.

 

[VidGamrJ]

Lol, all those miss-fires and just happens to be a poor timing. Any test on how long after it goes to sleep before you can fire it again? I kind of have to laugh if its just that 13th second.

From what I've tested, it just seems to occur in the small window of it going to sleep. It fires right up again after the screen goes out.

 

[Major911]

Anyone having difficulty locating one of these. I have a new one for sale in the classified section.


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[Aaron Peik]

Ya, so i've never expierenced a misfire and obviously it is the way i vape. I just went to google stopwatch, and if you click both then click the sig down at exactly 13 seconds it will not fire, how bizarre. now you know why they call it the 213 lmfao. interesting find.

 

[VidGamrJ]

Ya, so i've never expierenced a misfire and obviously it is the way i vape. I just went to google stopwatch, and if you click both then click the sig down at exactly 13 seconds it will not fire, how bizarre. now you know why they call it the 213 lmfao. interesting find.

Haha that's hilarious! 2 clicks at 13 seconds!

 

[rice721]

someone should write to sigelei about this and push for a firmware update.

 

[Nailz]

Mine has the misfire too, and when it happens, I look down and the screen is blank, when take finger off fire button, the screen lights up again, not going sit here and do the 13 second test, I will just believe the others, hopefully sig will do a update to address it, but not holding my breath.

Still love the look and feel of the mod, the very odd misfire will not spoil it for me, but for the price point, wouldn't expect something like this though.

 

[Haylon357]

Just did a test on my Fuchai. Same thing. Guess it's a Sigelei glitch. Maybe there will be a firmware update to fix the 213.

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[Ottefrep]

@Aaron Peik, that's interesting about the finish. I'm holding out for the gold (brass?) version. When the finish scratches, what does the metal look like underneath? Just silver?

ETA: also, I'm a little confused by the... confusion on the "lack" of wattage adjustment in TC mode by many users. Isn't adjustable wattage in TC mode on other mods just a preheat function? Otherwise, you'd just set your temperature and vape, that's the whole point of TC... right?

I've had my 213 for two weeks, and dropped it twice on concrete. It still works great. The base material I believe is aluminum, so the gun metal finish is just that, a finish. Now I have aluminum looking dents on the body.

 

[Aaron Peik]

If it's actually aluminumake underneath the gun metal.. it'll be getting polished later on when it gets beat to he'll. Probably look good both ways.

 

[Topweasel]

If it's actually aluminumake underneath the gun metal.. it'll be getting polished later on when it gets beat to he'll. Probably look good both ways.

It's too light to be zinc. I think Sig was too afraid this would be their last device and went all out to make sure there was demand for it after the freeze.