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Sigelei 213 owners thread

Discussion in 'VV/VW APV Discussion' started by rice721, Apr 30, 2016.

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  1. Tommy-Chi

    Tommy-Chi Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 9, 2015
    Chitown
    Will let you know if I figure it out.
     
  2. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    So I got and have started using it a little.

    My initial impressions.

    1. The dude is small. You can't get a great enough feel for the size in the video's. I mean even when Fagan showed it next to a cuboid, it still seemed larger than it is in my hands. I have really small hands and it still feels small.

    2. It's very light. Almost felt lighter than the two batteries that came with my order.

    3. Its not the most perfect machining ever, but it feels very very very robust. Nothing but the buttons have any give.

    4. Carbon fiber or not the finish for that feels great. It almost looks like a wrap around a metal frame. But there is no give, no shifting, no feeling that there is anything behind it. Even if it is carbon fiber there is still probably around a frame, I doubt it's needed for anything but mounting.

    5. The screen is great even if a little crowded but it basically gives you all the information you need. One downside is Amps are only shown after you fire at that setting.

    6. This goes both ways. Considering the different materials and the bottom door I am surprised how flush everything is. On the other hand for OCD people. There is an almost in imperceptible gap on one of the four corners for the top lid. Which is funny considering a lot of worries were about the battery door which on mine is about as flush as could be. Both in keeping the device flat and keeps the slide from sticking out the device at all.

    7. And finally for Rice. The buttons. The only real weak point I have with the device. You are right to worry. They aren't painted. But they are certainly plastic. I don't think they were ever metal, I think they were just chromed plastic in the samples. But they are plastic. Not the end off the world. They are very clicky. They have a pretty good tactile feel. But the trigger should probably be more robust than it is. It's probably a very good thing for this reason it sits mostly flush with the device.
     
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  3. Tommy-Chi

    Tommy-Chi Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 9, 2015
    Chitown

    Good post. One thing regarding point 5, my amps show all the time, even when I'm adjusting the wattage in power mode. Haven't done TC mode yet so I cannot say one way or the other.
     
  4. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    Amps show all the time but it only updates after you fire it. Fired at 50w on a .4 and it says 11 amps. Scroll up to 100 it still says 11. But if I fire it at 60 it goes to 12.
     
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  5. Tommy-Chi

    Tommy-Chi Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 9, 2015
    Chitown

    Thanks for the information!
     
  6. f1vefour

    f1vefour Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2013
    Pensacola
    I 100% agree.

    Is the 213 firmware upgradeable.
     
  7. rice721

    rice721 1.21 GigaWatts! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 26, 2016
    Shanghai
    When in TC mode, instead of the Amperage, it will show your preheat Wattage.
     
  8. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    They say yes. But Sigelei hasn't really had a track record for it (for the most part have shunned USB ports in the past). So I don't expect much other than huge bug fixes (if it has any).

    Considering that. I find the USB port funny. The 150w TC after a couple months has chewed through my HG2's. So I need to re wrap them and would kill for a charging port on that. The 213 is so easy to swap batteries, I won't ever even think of using the USB port. Heck I might not want to get another device that doesn't have a battery door like this. So its funny that I have 2 sigs one I'd kill for a charge port and don't have, and another with a port I might never use.
     
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  9. rice721

    rice721 1.21 GigaWatts! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 26, 2016
    Shanghai
    You have to hold the Fire button and "+" button UNTIL you see Wattage and Time. It threw me off at first b/c when you hold it you will see preheat power adjustment but if you let go it goes back to your normal screen...just hold it until you see something happening on the screen :)
     
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  10. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    It still seems to act as a preheat. I set it to 60, it shows 60 in the wattage, but if I leave it at .02 seconds. It almost instantly drops back down to ~2w. If I set it for two seconds it fires normally and could take a quick hit but if falls back down to 2w. So it's still seems to be a preheat for TC.

    Edit: Tried it under SS316 and it stayed at 60w. Weird. The other test was on NI200. But that kind of ruins a feature if it the preheat doesn't work in TC. Then again I think most devices do a preheat before it settles on the temp. So maybe its not that important on TC. Set the power and forget it. I should note that I don't have a tank with a TC coil in it now. But I do have a few SS316 coils for my Herk + and Ni200 for my Zephyrous. So I tried both tests with Kanthal. When I empty those two out I'll toss them in for TC testing.
     
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  11. rice721

    rice721 1.21 GigaWatts! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 26, 2016
    Shanghai
    I misread your post, not sure if theres an actual wattage setting for TC I've only been able to adjust the preheat wattage.
     
  12. Tommy-Chi

    Tommy-Chi Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 9, 2015
    Chitown

    Haven't got a nick on any of my batteries and I've been using the 150W TC for many months. That isn't to say I put them in fast though. I baby my vaping gear.
     
  13. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    I don't put them in fast either. But one edge of the negative on the right side sticks up just enough. I don't get enough room when going positive first when popping them in that the negative side of the battery drags against the exposed side of the negative connection. I look at my batteries after I pop them out each time and my mod has never taken a fall (in fact the finish is still in perfect condition) but both HG2's in the last week went from near perfect to very slight nicks in the wrap near the negative end.
     
  14. MadVLN

    MadVLN Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2016
    Central WA State
    yah, i figured out that you have to use preheat wattage as your watts in TC mode. once i got it dialed it, it was great in TC! the preheat TFR or whatever it is, is pretty cool. i have mine set for 60w for 1.75s and temp set to 440. i usually only take 2 second pulls so it's nice having it fire how i like and can feel it cool down right before the end of my pull.

    i really really love this mod so far but have on MAJOR con and not sure if it's just my unit or what. but i pressed the fire button and nothing. so basically misfire. it happened a total of 5 times last night. kind of frustrating. i'm going to try it a couple more days. if it continues, i will probably exchange it. if anyone else is experiencing this, please let us know.
     
  15. rice721

    rice721 1.21 GigaWatts! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 26, 2016
    Shanghai
    Haven't experienced mis-firing. have experienced battery voltage difference warning once. Screen shows batteries were >1volts apart. Took out batteries, reinstalled, was fine after. New LG HG2s.
     
  16. Haylon357

    Haylon357 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2014
    USA
    Sounds like the exact same thing that my Fuchai suffers from. Which it why I'm holding off. I hope this issue gets resolved. It's minor issue but a major annoyance.

    Sent from my LG V10 using Tapatalk
     
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  17. MadVLN

    MadVLN Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2016
    Central WA State

    i didn't know it was a problem with sigeleis. this is my first sigelei product. everything i've read says they are a work horse of a mod maker. i guess they did sorta fall off last year when wismec and joyetech took over the game.
     
  18. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    So it shows the actual amp drain at the battery, not the amps at the atty like Joyetech and other devices?

    Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk
     
  19. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    No problem with mine. Fires all the time. Been playing with the Pre-heat. It works fantastically. To feel the power and when it settles down I am doing a much larger difference than I will in later weeks as I settle on the settings for my coil. As it is with a Herkules Pluss with .4 ohm Kanthal triple coil I am vaping at 50, but I have the preset set to 100w (the upper end of the coil) and 1 second. I can easily feel the heat and power early in the vape and its easy to tell when the power lets off.
     
  20. Topweasel

    Topweasel Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2016
    I don't know but it seems so. This guy is very battery centric. It lists both battery voltages, the percentage based on battery voltage (so the %can vary quite a bit after you are done firing till it settles back down). It has a visual bar at the bottom for a more rough and probably because it isn't updated as quickly more accurate battery charge. So year the Amp measurement seems to be from the battery when firing, and what it last was pulling, after you are done firing.
     
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