Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

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My new V5 arrived today. The center brass pin is below the delrin insulator. Will not make contact the attys. On the way back Sigh.
Ouch, that's a DOA. We haven't seen that happen very often with Sigelei as it means a major QC failure. I wonder if Sigelei is training a new crew after the Chinese New Year? Some articles I've read say that close to half of the plant workers in China do not return to their previous jobs after CNY.
 

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Well, my Sig and the Hypertank arrived today! Flat out amazing, ordered it at 4:30pm Saturday, and it's here today, and I used regular 1st class shipping. So, obviously I can't use it yet, since the batteries aren't here, but I was examining it carefully, of course; someone said not to use Noalox on the top-ring threads, but I have to say, they sure don't thread well -- is there anything actually wrong with using Noalox on those threads too? The other threads, the battery cap(s) and the telescoping, they're all smooth as silk -- truly excellent quality -- but the top cap rings are almost sticky.

Figure we can get out to Lowes this evening, rather than waiting; I got the notice that at least one set of batteries has shipped, the 18350s (Amazon divided up the order), so they might actually get here by Wednesday or so; it would be good to already have the Noalox and have that bit done.

I'm always so surprised by the size of these things; they always look so much larger in pics than they turn out to be. I knew, from dimensions, that this was no taller than the vv3 (when it's all telescoped-down), but it's just a really weird reality-check to actually see it and hold it, and see that no, these things aren't huge at all. Even the pic of the Hypertank makes it seem really huge, but it's not. If I had a flared cone, I could go ahead and use that, but without a flared cone it would look kinda silly on the vv3. :D

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It's a good idea to clean all of the threads on the Sigelei with a soft cloth dampened with alcohol upon arrival. My second V3 threads were clean as a whistle but my first V3 had some machining residue on the threads. Actually, a little e-juice on the top cap threads is all you need to lubricate them for smooth movement.
 

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Ouch, that's a DOA. We haven't seen that happen very often with Sigelei as it means a major QC failure. I wonder if Sigelei is training a new crew after the Chinese New Year? Some articles I've read say that close to half of the plant workers in China do not return to their previous jobs after CNY.

That pin is absolutely crushed into the 510 connector about 2mm below the delrin. No way would it pull. Now we will see how good Desert Vape is on their warranty service.
 

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It's a good idea to clean all of the threads on the Sigelei with a soft cloth dampened with alcohol upon arrival. My second V3 threads were clean as a whistle but my first V3 had some machining residue on the threads. Actually, a little e-juice on the top cap threads is all you need to lubricate them for smooth movement.

I put Noalox on the V3 today that was acting up. It seems better. Still warm but better also the battery life seems about normal. Could it have been thread wear I wonder allowing poor contact. I also greased up a Nemesis that was horribly sticky. Now smooth with parts removing freely. Truly a wonder lube. Will run the V3 battery down tonight to see how far it goes and if it starts giving me errors again at low voltage.
 

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It isn't thread wear that causes problems. I don't think any of the Sigelei threads will wear that much. The telescopic tube and the battery cap threads need the best electrical contact possible to complete the B- path. To get that good contact at the tube threads you have to either apply more pressure to the tube threads (risking damage to the internals) or put something between them that will improve conductivity. That's what Noalox does. It has some lubricating qualities but lubrication will not improve conductivity. The zinc in Noalox is a conductive metal that improves electrical conductivity between parts. It also prevents oxidation of metal conductors but that isn't needed with the stainless steel used for these Sigelei parts.
 

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I never thought of the space between the threads. Just that space caused by wear. I am sure the wear increases that space if (as you suggested) do use Noalox from the start. Learned my lesson! V3 still doing OK. Went through a normal battery cycle yesterday. The new V5 on it's way back. Wish me luck on that one.
 
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I never thought of the space between the threads. Just that space caused by wear. I am sure the wear increases that space if (as you suggested) do not use Noalox from the start. Learned my lesson! V3 still doing OK. Went through a normal battery cycle yesterday. The new V5 on it's way back. Wish me luck on that one.
It's good to hear that your V3 is working with the Noalox. Are you still getting misfires with the Noalox on the V3?

It will be interesting to find out when you receive the replacement V5. Did you have to send back the accessory charger unit or just the body alone?
 

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I ordered the rainbow last week and it's still not here. Called the vendor and he doesn't have them yet! Customs is holding them up? Would have been nice to get a notice about this.

Asked about the finish. It's not a coating but a certain metal that's used and it's rainbow in color? What would that be?

Who the heck knows when it will get to me. I hope it's worth the wait.:glare:
 

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It really, Really, REALLY cheeses me off when vendors are drop shipping and not letting the buyer know. Even when you have to sort through every item to see what is in stock, ships tomorrow, ships next week etc.

You got it! They let you pick any color but black is only available. He bought 50 rainbow from China and 30 are sold before they're even in his hands? What if they're all damaged? Next time, I'll make sure any item I purchase is in stock, here in the USA!
 

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There is no way the stainless steel threads have any physical wear. Stainless is very hard it would take literally years. The differeing looseness is tolerances from the factory. I've heard reports of 'some' newer ones that have no play, mine had quite a bit out the box. I bet yours does as well. You want the noalox to l completely fill the threads where they will sit, like if you were using a plumbing compound to seal a water pipe.

Peeps I'm guessing the rainbow is a heat/acid treatment of some sort that permenatly changes the color. I bet/hope its still stainless steel. It looks really cool though you'll be one of the few to have one.
 
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I ordered the rainbow last week and it's still not here. Called the vendor and he doesn't have them yet! Customs is holding them up? Would have been nice to get a notice about this.

Asked about the finish. It's not a coating but a certain metal that's used and it's rainbow in color? What would that be?

Who the heck knows when it will get to me. I hope it's worth the wait.:glare:
If the rainbow color doesn't come from a coating then the rainbow V3 and V5 could be drop dead gorgeous, extremely durable and well worth the extra bucks.

A rainbow effect can be produced on stainless steel by placing it into an electrochemical bath. This changes the way that chromium (one of the metals used in stainless steel alloys) on the surface of the steel reflects light. This treatment can produce any color of the visible light spectrum.

I would just love to see a non-photochopped photo of your rainbow Sigelei after you receive it!

Here is an article about electrochemical coloring (light interference coloring) of stainless steel.

Architectural Metal Newsletter
 
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