Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

[Alxx Nova]

Was just scoping out sigelei's web site and came across this. It's the sigelei SVD. They call it the S-ET. It was listed under the ZMAX tab.

S-ET_ZMAX_SIGELEI Electronic Cigarette -

 

[yzer]

sigelei makes all kind of stuff. In this video made last year you can see them making a Vamo-like device with a red display at :45 and :53.

How to pronounce Sigelei?

 

[JeremyR]

Just running a few tests today. Got a free pair of 16340 joyelife 750mah to play with. Stacked battery voltage reads 8.1, nice. The 16340s fit fine and even though they are skinnier they don't rattle around at all.

Just ran some unloaded voltage output tests off the 510.

Set at 15w Single 18650 reads 6.04v . stacked 16340's reads 7.84v

 

[Nailz]

Was just scoping out Sigelei's web site and came across this. It's the Sigelei SVD. They call it the S-ET. It was listed under the ZMAX tab.

S-ET_ZMAX_SIGELEI Electronic Cigarette -

Someone needs to tell them Christmas was over long time ago

 

[fairmana]

Did anyone who visited the Segelei link posted above notice that they have a 12-month warranty on their products? Why aren't vendors that sell Segelei products passing along that same warranty to their customers? From previous discussions in this thread, my impression is that 90-days is about the best you can expect, depending on the the website you purchase from.

 

[yzer]

The official Sigelei site shown above is intended for wholesale buyers of Sigelei products. These people buy large quantities of Sigelei products at MOQ prices for retail purposes. I'm not a vendor but I'll hazard a guess that Sigelei offers a 1-year warranty against defects to the vendors. I also suspect that dealers need only provide some sort of verifiable proof suitable to Sigelei to get compensation for defective product and that the defective products themselves are not shipped back to China. I'm only guessing, of course.

Last December, when that Santa Claus first appeared at the official Sigelei site there was a purchasing option available for retail customers for about a week or so. I didn't use it. I looked at the Sigelei Zmax V3s there and saw the option to purchase one for about $120 US with the one year warranty from Sigelei. This buying function disappeared from the site as mysteriously as it appeared. I'll bet they didn't have many takers at that price.

My first Sigelei Zmax V3 (the one I bought in April 2013 and still works today) had a one-year Sigelei warranty included in the owner's manual. There were no details in this warranty about how the owner would use it (like where to return a DOA unit). The back-up V3 I bought in November as a low-cost body only deal for $42 came packed a plain Jane white Sigelei branded box with no printed materials at all other than a Passed QC ticket from Sigelei. This one had a 14-day warranty from 101 Vape. It works great today. I use it part-time.

No one is going to get a definitive answer on this question without getting it from a Sigelei vendor or Sigelei.

Yes, the best warranty I've seen for the Sigeleis is the 90-day warranty from Varitube. You get what you pay for.

 

[Btsmokincat]

My V3 arrived in the mail today. Still waiting on batteries but I've got a couple of questions....

1. Is the center pin floating? To me it doesn't seem to but maybe it's just new...

2. I attached my EHpro Kayfun Lite on the Zmax to see how it looked. (you know what's coming next) It could only be screwed down about halfway before it made contact and I didn't dare to force it. How do people flush mount?


I assume these are answered somewhere in these 125 pages but after about 20 pages my eyes started to cross...

Thanks! And Yzer you're the reason I decided to get one!

 

[Nailz]

I attached my EHpro Kayfun Lite on the Zmax to see how it looked. (you know what's coming next) It could only be screwed down about halfway before it made contact and I didn't dare to force it. How do people flush mount?

Nothing fits flush on mine, I presumed it is like that to let air in.

 

[JeremyR]

It's not floating, you can only get flush to the 510 there will still be a gap to the drip ring for air flow. The center pin is very resilient you can go pretty tight with it. I use an oddy and I screw the base in tight and then screw the coil assembly in till it bottoms out on the pin. The oddy is completely tight and flush on the 510 at that point. You may be able to adjust the kfl center pin somehow so you can tighten all the way down.

With the solid stainless threads it really takes away a lot of the worries that you have with other mods when their not tightened all the way. The 510 threads are nearly indestructible.

 

[yzer]

Agreed. The 510 center pin does not float. Using a 510 carto tank on mine the bottom of the tank clears the top cap with about 1mm of airflow gap. I tighten the carto until it first snugs up. To reduce gaps between the top cap and atomizer other users have adjusted the top cap height or purchased or made beauty rings to fit between the two.

The 510 center post position is similar to that on a Provari and most other rigs from what I've read.

Welcome to the group, Btsmokincat.

 

[lulu836]

SOME eGo beauty rings will fit on the V3 to make everything flush. The problem with that is there is no air flow even with the rings that have air channels in them. There is also the problem that the topper doesn't touch the pin so there's no vapor either. Therefore I would have to say that a gap, no matter how small, is necessary.

 

[olefolks]

Ben wondering about this. Thanks!!

 

[lulu836]

Ben wondering about this. Thanks!!

Happy to help when I can.

 

[BecknCO]

Did anyone ever figure out the amp limit on this? I thought I read somewhere it was 4amps, but can't be sure. I know Jeremy's probably found it and beaten it with a hammer lol. (V5, 2.0a if that matters any)

 

[JeremyR]

Like all Most all vv/vw mods it sits around 2.5 with one imr. With stacked 18350 batteries its 4 amps. These tiny little 16340s I'm playing with, stacked, lasted a full 24hrs, much longer than 1 18650 imr which would have been around 12 before I pulled it.

The theory is because the load on the battery is significantly reduced. The v3 is stepping down the voltage instead of ramping it up. Working each battery less with out the drop off in power as the battery dwindles down. Only thing is it does seem to pulse at higher amps so thin coil wires may burn out easy.

View this blog - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ng-info-stacked-batteries-regulated-mods.html

 

[yzer]

JeremyR pretty much nailed it. For the highest wattage settings of up to 15W stacked 18350's are required for any VV/VW mod using the 33mHz chip. Vaping around 6.5 to 7.5W I don't need to stack batts. Any of the single 18xx0 batteries can do that easily with the Sigelei. Stacking batteries requires extra attention to battery care. I have read many posts about stacking batts and most recommend labeling each battery so they can be rotated and used in matched pairs. One battery is used at the positive terminal one time and at the negative the next. I would read more posts about stacking batteries and battery safety before doing it. Admittedly, I'm no expert on stacking batts.

 

[yzer]

This pBusardo review of the Sigelei Zmax V1 shows specific test results for all of the Sigelei Zmax mods.

 

[yzer]

And this video deals specifically with Sigelei Zmax V3 Telescopic. I think Phil might be over-tightening the tube a bit for 18490 in this vid. You can skip the first four minutes. The thumbs up come at 16:50 into the video.

 

[yzer]

The V3 shown in pBusardo's video above is the early production V3, the same one I purchased in April, 2013. Sigelei upgraded the V3 later in the year. Upgrades include the removable top cap, one-piece stainless steel 510-eGo threading, some changes to circuit and display mountings, and a firmware upgrade that changed some menu display features. Late in 2013 V3s have laser-etched logos.

The V5 also came out later in 2013 incorporating the V3 upgrades and additional features.

 

[BecknCO]

Thanks guys - Yzer - those videos aren't showing, but I've seen the pbusardo video before of the V3. Woerd - now they show up!

I also read Jeremy's blog post, and it seems that you can safely stack 18350's which is what I was thinking of doing. Have you tried the efest imr's versus the aw's? I assume from that blog post that either will need to be button tops, and that it won't be safe to go below a 1.5ohm atty. That's a shame, because, I was thinking I could run a 1ohm build in the kayfun, and with stacked 18350's be able to get 15watts of power pretty steadily. I know the amps and watts measure out to a lot more than 15 watts, but I figured the chip in the zmax would limit it to 15 watts or 4 amps.

Will stacked 18350's run 8.4volts when freshly charged? If so, I'd guess that the chip in the zmax wouldn't let that get above 4amps, so it could power a 1ohm coil at 15 watts for a while. If this scenario isn't safe, then I'm not even going to bother trying. I just was looking for the lowest ohm atty I could safely run with 15watts of power and for the longest time possible. If that's only 1.5ohms, then I dont' think I'll bother stacking.

Bah....I just remembered the zmax wont fire below 1.2ohms anyway - so I guess 1.5 it is !