Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group
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Yeah I can relate, on the disappointment of protanks. I have that mini pt II, and the hypertank2, and neither gives as good a vape as the T3S's I have. I keep my morning apple-cinnamon-clove-turkish 10.5mg in the mini pt II, so I don't notice it so much there, since it's hard to taste much of anything when I first wake up, but that cinnamon-apple taste comes thru pretty clearly, it's a strong taste without TH.
I've got the Nautilus back on the Sigelei, set at 3v. It's not burnt tasting, and the wide-open setting was really airy, almost not there, so I set the nautilus to the next-to-largest hole, and now it's definitely there, and this is definitely a much hotter vape than any of the single coil tanks I've used, and I think maybe the low resistance is a factor too; when I tried a LR carto, it made an aluminum driptip so hot I got 2 blisters on my lips. I'll get some of those 2.2Ω coils for it, but it'll have to wait a bit, kinda broke at the moment and next paycheck is the mortgage, so, first things first; the Nautilus can be used on the vv3's, and I have all these lovely T3S's -- and the stainless one looks very nice with the Sigelei:
What it really needs with those tanks is a shorter ring, that would come to just below the air holes on the T3S's base. But I've already been over that issue of rings, and they apparently don't exist for the sigelei, so I just have to deal with the exposed threads. Or find another tank that's as wide as the Sig. Maybe an RBA tank. The rebuilding thing is not that hard, once you do it a few times and get used to it. I was even more terrified of it than of the dry-burning.
Andria
I've got the Nautilus back on the Sigelei, set at 3v. It's not burnt tasting, and the wide-open setting was really airy, almost not there, so I set the nautilus to the next-to-largest hole, and now it's definitely there, and this is definitely a much hotter vape than any of the single coil tanks I've used, and I think maybe the low resistance is a factor too; when I tried a LR carto, it made an aluminum driptip so hot I got 2 blisters on my lips. I'll get some of those 2.2Ω coils for it, but it'll have to wait a bit, kinda broke at the moment and next paycheck is the mortgage, so, first things first; the Nautilus can be used on the vv3's, and I have all these lovely T3S's -- and the stainless one looks very nice with the Sigelei:
What it really needs with those tanks is a shorter ring, that would come to just below the air holes on the T3S's base. But I've already been over that issue of rings, and they apparently don't exist for the sigelei, so I just have to deal with the exposed threads. Or find another tank that's as wide as the Sig. Maybe an RBA tank. The rebuilding thing is not that hard, once you do it a few times and get used to it. I was even more terrified of it than of the dry-burning.
Andria
Yeah, I have 2 sets of 350's that I've tried stacked but I don't get anywhere near the battery life that you're saying you get. It's probably just be the batteries I'm using. They are the white TangsFire 1500 mAh batteries. I admittedly didn't do much research on them before I bought them. I got them because of the high mAh rating hoping they'd last longer than normal 350's. I'm certain they aren't high drain, but since I don't vape above 8 watts, I don't suspect it's an issue for me. I may just need to break them in a bit more. I've only used them 2 or 3 cycles, but then put them aside since I wasn't impressed with how long they lasted me. Stacked I'm not getting much better than just using a single 18650. Any thoughts? Just a crappy brand or what?
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I have to say, I love the way the Nautilus looks with the Sig... so I'll hang on to it for a while, get some higher ohm coils, and see if that makes it vape better.
Andria
Andria
That does look nice.
I took a look at the these since they were brought up in the thread recently. I was a bit surprised that they didn't sell higher ohm atomizers for these at the site I was looking at (it might have been the vendor at the link you provided, I can't remember...). I guess I assumed this tank was intended for lower ohm vaping. If they do sell them at higher ohms, I may pick one of these up and try it out. Have you come across a source for >2 ohm atomizers for the Nautilus?
Fairmana, Definitely not a vaping battery. The v3 needs imr high drain, the chip pulses at 6v and it can draw up to 6-8 amps I hear. That can really toast a 3 amp battery. I'm gonna run some tests over the next few days. I'm currently just using some freebie joyetech 16340 - 750mah high drain. I currently have a 1.7 ohm build of twisted 32. I'm gonna run some tests between stacked and single 18650. Then I will put a 2.7-3.0 ohm build in and test. I really prefer the 32g at 2.7-3, just took it out and put this twisted 1.7 in and the single strand 2.7-3 just heats so much faster. I get a better quick 3 second vape, with more vapor production.
Andria,
I just build my old t3 and I found the draw to be about the same with the top ring on as it was without... You just have to slide the ring on and off when you want to change tanks. That nauti does look nice on there. I really don't see you getting anything different with 2.2 ohm. Since the sigelie is adjustable it can be set Equally with any ohm. (Essentially) your issue i believe is that your not wicking properly to handle the higher wattages the sigelie puts out in pulses. You need to work on the wicking.
Andria,
I just build my old t3 and I found the draw to be about the same with the top ring on as it was without... You just have to slide the ring on and off when you want to change tanks. That nauti does look nice on there. I really don't see you getting anything different with 2.2 ohm. Since the sigelie is adjustable it can be set Equally with any ohm. (Essentially) your issue i believe is that your not wicking properly to handle the higher wattages the sigelie puts out in pulses. You need to work on the wicking.
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I definitely perceive something like a stutter, when it's at low settings especially. But that stutter doesn't seem to affect the quality of the vape, it's still either as hot or warm or cool as whatever device is mounted on it. I think it's simply that the batteries for the Sigelei are so much more powerful than the vv3 (or eGo Twist) batteries -- as you said, 8w on the sig is probably equivalent to 10w on the vv3.
Since I need to set it so low for the Nautilus that I have to use the voltage rather than wattage settings, I put the Nautilus on the Twist, and set it at 3.4-ish; seems fine. Add a black drip tip et voila, looks fabulous, with that big flared cone. I love all this mix n match of the black and silver anyway, it's like a festival of coordinating separates. Guess you'd have to be a woman to understand the allure of that.
Andria
I haven't done a thing to the wicking of the nautilus, I wouldn't have the first clue what to do with a dual coil. There's no flavor wick at all, I do know; when you look down into the coil head, the coil is visible, nothing on top of it.
What I figured out about the T3S and the ring, is that I loosen the ring, till it's *just* into the threads, but no tighter; that way I get the look of the ring, without closing off the bottom air flow completely. If I keep it at 6.5-7w, it seems fine.
Andria
I got the new ISP working this afternoon. Yep, U-verse internet runs like blazes compared to the ADSL I had before.
The new V5 I ordered from Desert Vapes Sunday night arrived on Wednesday. I'll be using it exclusively for the 30-day warranty period. The V5 has Sigelei and CE laser logos, metal button and included the cell phone charger and both battery caps. I really don't plan on using the cell phone charger or puff counter but I just wanted to have a V5 to compare to my V3s. It has a two line display when fired. I have it showing watts, a graphic battery charge state icon and puff counter. Menu Item #5: LCD Display as some extra goodies that allow display of current and draw times. Otherwise, a V5 is a V3.
Thanks fairmana and JeremyR for the new switch discussion. My dead V3 is sitting on the workbench and will have to wait there until I finish a rebuild of the electric dryer. Sunny CA allows me to dry clothes on a line in the back yard quickly but that's getting old fast.
The new V5 I ordered from Desert Vapes Sunday night arrived on Wednesday. I'll be using it exclusively for the 30-day warranty period. The V5 has Sigelei and CE laser logos, metal button and included the cell phone charger and both battery caps. I really don't plan on using the cell phone charger or puff counter but I just wanted to have a V5 to compare to my V3s. It has a two line display when fired. I have it showing watts, a graphic battery charge state icon and puff counter. Menu Item #5: LCD Display as some extra goodies that allow display of current and draw times. Otherwise, a V5 is a V3.
Thanks fairmana and JeremyR for the new switch discussion. My dead V3 is sitting on the workbench and will have to wait there until I finish a rebuild of the electric dryer. Sunny CA allows me to dry clothes on a line in the back yard quickly but that's getting old fast.
That does look nice.
I took a look at the these since they were brought up in the thread recently. I was a bit surprised that they didn't sell higher ohm atomizers for these at the site I was looking at (it might have been the vendor at the link you provided, I can't remember...). I guess I assumed this tank was intended for lower ohm vaping. If they do sell them at higher ohms, I may pick one of these up and try it out. Have you come across a source for >2 ohm atomizers for the Nautilus?
Kidney Puncher - $15.95 and eBay - $10.95
-- but JeremyR seems to think the higher-ohm coils wouldn't change the vape all that much. Considering they cost so much, I might keep playing around with it, see if I can get any kind of vape I like out of it. Putting it on the Twist, I might even try out the 1.6 ohm coil and see how it does.
One thing I've noticed is that it seems to change the taste a lot; my usual vape has a faint apple taste from the Oak Barrel Cider I add to it (usually about 1/16 of total volume), which is quite faint in all my other tanks, but in the Nautilus, comes thru quite intensely. I'm going to try some unadulterated Virginia in it, no Oak Barrel Cider added to it, and see if I like it any better that way. That could actually save me some money, if all I needed for a good vape in the Nautilus is plain Virginia, no additions.
Andria
Carto tanks?? Please elaborate. I want a tank that's going to give me as little trouble as it can and perform well with the Zmax.
Carto??
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Andria, if it came across that way; I would correct myself, it will change the vape. Will it take away the dry hits your getting.. I'm not sure. I think you need to remove a Single Strand of silica from the coils with tweezers.. (When you have spares incase it doesn't work) But I would definately try the 2.2.
I think I'm just going to try and sell it. It changes the actual taste of the vape tremendously, so that it doesn't even taste like the same juice I've been vaping for over 2 months. I've tried it on every PV I own; I've tried my usual mixture juice; I've tried it with just plain Virginia with no additions at all. It just doesn't taste good to me, no matter what I do to it. Maybe it's that I'm not used to dual coils, or just that every atomizer gives a different sort of taste, and this one just doesn't suit me. It's crazy to keep this expensive and prime a device if I'm not going to use it, and considering how I feel about it so far, I think it's crazy to buy more stuff for it, too. Best to try and cut my losses.
Andria
Andria
Cartomizer tanks. A cartomizer in a tank.
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Congrats on the improvement in bandwidth Yzer.
I'm still sitting at ADSL (about same quality as you had) with no other company that can provide anything better in my area. Wish I could get COX. The kick in the teeth is that they come to within 1 block of me but don't service my area. Ouch.Congrats also on the new V5. I've been considering getting one since I'm down to 1 reliable V3. I may drop the hammer over the next day or so. I hope DV doesn't go out of stock right when I go to buy one.
Yeah I can relate, on the disappointment of protanks. I have that mini pt II, and the hypertank2, and neither gives as good a vape as the T3S's I have. I keep my morning apple-cinnamon-clove-turkish 10.5mg in the mini pt II, so I don't notice it so much there, since it's hard to taste much of anything when I first wake up, but that cinnamon-apple taste comes thru pretty clearly, it's a strong taste without TH.
I've got the Nautilus back on the Sigelei, set at 3v. It's not burnt tasting, and the wide-open setting was really airy, almost not there, so I set the nautilus to the next-to-largest hole, and now it's definitely there, and this is definitely a much hotter vape than any of the single coil tanks I've used, and I think maybe the low resistance is a factor too; when I tried a LR carto, it made an aluminum driptip so hot I got 2 blisters on my lips. I'll get some of those 2.2Ω coils for it, but it'll have to wait a bit, kinda broke at the moment and next paycheck is the mortgage, so, first things first; the Nautilus can be used on the vv3's, and I have all these lovely T3S's -- and the stainless one looks very nice with the Sigelei:
What it really needs with those tanks is a shorter ring, that would come to just below the air holes on the T3S's base. But I've already been over that issue of rings, and they apparently don't exist for the sigelei, so I just have to deal with the exposed threads. Or find another tank that's as wide as the Sig. Maybe an RBA tank. The rebuilding thing is not that hard, once you do it a few times and get used to it. I was even more terrified of it than of the dry-burning.
Andria
My t3s works perfect with the ring on. Why do you have to take the ring off? Plenty of space between tank and ring opening.
Also, I ordered all these fancy Pyrex tanks (aro, t-dux, aspire ets bdc) and the t3s is the best most flavorful one!! Crazy!!
Edit- sorry, didn't see your follow up post. Another option is I drilled out the 3 airflow holes to 1/16th. Made a huge difference.
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Just an update for Yzer and all. The troublesome V3 is chugging along nicely with the cleaning and Noalox. In fact it is performing better than when new. Thanks again for the tip Yzer!
Actually I was considering that, drilling them a little larger; my husband found a pretty dang tiny drillbit in his collection, and he was standing here, drill in hand, when I had the brainstorm of just removing the top ring. What I've found is that removing the top ring just isn't enough, I still get the dry hits unless I sit here and take 4-6 priming puffs before hitting the fire button. So it looks like my options are, drill the holes larger on at least 1 of my T3Ss, or just keep using my T3S's on the vv3s. I don't really mind the latter, just using them with my vv3's, but I got the sigelei so the larger batteries could see me thru a whole day-trip to my folks' house, so until I get another tank that I really like to use with the Sig, I'm not really sure what to do. If I drill the holes larger on one of them, I don't think I'd be able to use that one anymore on anything *except* the Sig (because then it would be so airy I wouldn't like it on anything else -- not even sure I'd like it that way on the Sig, since I strongly dislike an airy draw), and that's kind of a bummer, since I like to switch around so that battery and tank are somewhat "matching."
A girl thing, I guess. I know that JeremyR keeps saying "remove some of the wick" but then I would get floods into the battery-post area, so I don't know what to do, to be honest. I really hoped that Nautilus would fix the problem for me, but I still got dry hits with it, on the Sig, and it changed the flavor of my ejuice so drastically I didn't even like it anymore. So I've cleaned up the Nautilus and will be selling it, if I can find anyone interested in buying it, a little cheaper than new.
At this point, I'm thinking "carto-tanks," there's one I've found that doesn't cost a fortune as the IBTanked's do, the "SmokTank XL", think I saw a price of about $8.99 on that; I've also found some single-coil cartos designed to be used in DCT tanks, and I think I would like that a lot better, considering the dismal failure of the Nautilus. I admit, the Nautilus is the only dual-coil thing I've tried, but what it seemed like was, at first the draw was so cool I kept wondering if I was getting anything, then would suddenly heat up so fast I'd have to yank it away from my mouth to keep from getting burned. So if that's any indication of how dual coils act, I think I'll stay far away from anymore dual-coil anything.
Andria
Getting past dry hits is one of the harder things to do with clearos. Even with tank rbas it's still an issue.. Next time you get a hint of a dry hit in t3 unscrew the tank a little. But it's still a struggle with anything above 8w After a friend let me try a pull off a dripper; wow, and yes I need to get one! Since you can build coils now definitely consider a cheap dripper to try. At least you'll know you can always get a good hit with some drips.
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