sigh..chain smoking analogs all of a sudden..is 6v the answer?

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adeline

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I was going here...
I think it's your juice.

But then you said...

i'm on 12mg atm.. thinking about bumping it up to 18...
I don't know what your smoking habits/brands/whatever were before -- but this is REALLY low. I started at 18mg and that's kind of low to start out with. A lot of folks find their sweet spot at 24mg. Some can't quit smoking until they hit 36mg. Almost everyone recommends you have several different levels of nic (higher to fight bad cravings, after a meal, or with your coffee/alcohol) to help you along. I realize you've spent a lot of money on juice, but if you don't have enough nic, you aren't going to get the satisfaction you need, no matter your voltage, PV setup or atty/carto preference. I really recommend getting either some higher nic juice, or just some "nic juice" (where you can add a couple drops -- STRICTLY MEASURED -- to a bottle of e-juice to increase its strength). But make sure you understand about mixing nic before you do this.

As for throat hit -- certain flavors bring it hard. I've come across one Clove flavor and one Wintergreen flavor (in the last month, for both) that have ROCKED my SOCKS off in terms of TH .. and I was never one to care about it. So don't give up!

The trick is to find quality vendors that allow you to "sample" flavors -- meaning unrestricted levels of nic, pg/vg in SMALL bottles for CHEAP. There are several threads about this, I even started one myself and got a few good answers ( E-Liquid Sampler Packs )


i know alot of you guys are comfortable vaping anywhere and everywhere, but i'm still in that spot where i'm a tad embarrassed to bust it out /shrug
Not me! I'm still really shy about it. I even have a (very small, fits in the palm of my tiny lady hands!) box mod. But it's very rare that I'm open or public about it. Very few people know.

but i just have this feeling everytime i'm out with my friends drinking, i'm going to have that urge to smoke an analog...
I have experienced similar issues, especially when I'm drinking. Having a satisfying juice (my with-alcohol vape changes often!) helps a TON -- but you need to focus on the minute-to-minute cravings, and getting those under control, before you even START to worry about these kinds of cravings. These are very hard to shake -- I remember a point in time when I couldn't tell if the cigarette helped the alcohol go down better, or the alcohol helped the cigarette go down better.. Anyway, it's something that is etched into your mind -- and it's going to take some drinking WITHOUT smoking (probably a lot of it) for your mind to dissociate smoking and drinking.


Basically, the idea is, don't beat yourself up over it. You're doing a great job -- and there's a pretty intense learning curve. I encourage your willingness to try new PVs -- but I beg you -- please explore juice! Nic is important, but I think throat hit is important for you too. Maybe try the PIF threads -- trade some juice that you aren't too fond of, and try some new stuff. You might just find something that you like, and maybe just for the cost of shipping to someone else in a similar situation.

Best of luck to you!!!
 
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also i'm wondering if 5v / 6v is really going to help... because already at a freshly charged 3.7 battery + 1.5ohm atty, almost all of my juices give no flavor..

any opinions on this?

I always thought 6v was only for those "6v people". After using dual coils I finally understand. Anything I tried at 6v would either burn or kill the flavor. Duals are a strange breed. If I use them at 3.7 they still do a good job. At 6v they make a night at the bar a breeze. And I use 6mg! They seem to add such a good TH to any of my juices without dulling the flavor... Maybe just slightly.

The only problem with my provari is that using dual coils or a very low resistance atty, you won't be able to set it higher than ~4volts. The protection kicks in and gives a code. With mine anyway. Dual coils still work pretty darn good at 4v though. DC's are the reason I bought a roughstack actually.

I think I sound like a DC fanboy...maybe I am? I just think they may have what you need to be satisfied. good luck with the provari. provari or something like it make a great addition to vaping. Allow you to really get into finding your best vape. Good luck man.
 

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I don't know what your smoking habits/brands/whatever were before -- but this is REALLY low. I started at 18mg and that's kind of low to start out with. A lot of folks find their sweet spot at 24mg. Some can't quit smoking until they hit 36mg. Almost everyone recommends you have several different levels of nic (higher to fight bad cravings, after a meal, or with your coffee/alcohol) to help you along. I realize you've spent a lot of money on juice, but if you don't have enough nic, you aren't going to get the satisfaction you need, no matter your voltage, PV setup or atty/carto preference. I really recommend getting either some higher nic juice, or just some "nic juice" (where you can add a couple drops -- STRICTLY MEASURED -- to a bottle of e-juice to increase its strength). But make sure you understand about mixing nic before you do this.

As for throat hit -- certain flavors bring it hard. I've come across one Clove flavor and one Wintergreen flavor (in the last month, for both) that have ROCKED my SOCKS off in terms of TH .. and I was never one to care about it. So don't give up!

The trick is to find quality vendors that allow you to "sample" flavors -- meaning unrestricted levels of nic, pg/vg in SMALL bottles for CHEAP. There are several threads about this, I even started one myself and got a few good answers ( E-Liquid Sampler Packs )

ya, i was a marlboro/parliament lights pack a day smoker.. when i started with 18mg, i was getting pretty nauseated so i went down to 12mg and it seemed to work okay from there... i think my body is now used to vaping so i actually ordered a small sample of 18mg to see how it works out. 12mg seems to be perfect for me at home where i tend to chain vape..

you're right though, i think i just need a higher mg for when i go out.

i'm really liking the idea of adding my own nicotine to my juices.. definitely going to research it, and never even thought of it, so thx for that

and good lookin on the sampler pack link, gonna def check that out


Not me! I'm still really shy about it. I even have a (very small, fits in the palm of my tiny lady hands!) box mod. But it's very rare that I'm open or public about it. Very few people know.

haha i'm glad someone here feels me!!! cuz damn, i just can't do it in public without stealth vaping.....


I have experienced similar issues, especially when I'm drinking. Having a satisfying juice (my with-alcohol vape changes often!) helps a TON -- but you need to focus on the minute-to-minute cravings, and getting those under control, before you even START to worry about these kinds of cravings. These are very hard to shake -- I remember a point in time when I couldn't tell if the cigarette helped the alcohol go down better, or the alcohol helped the cigarette go down better.. Anyway, it's something that is etched into your mind -- and it's going to take some drinking WITHOUT smoking (probably a lot of it) for your mind to dissociate smoking and drinking.


Basically, the idea is, don't beat yourself up over it. You're doing a great job -- and there's a pretty intense learning curve. I encourage your willingness to try new PVs -- but I beg you -- please explore juice! Nic is important, but I think throat hit is important for you too. Maybe try the PIF threads -- trade some juice that you aren't too fond of, and try some new stuff. You might just find something that you like, and maybe just for the cost of shipping to someone else in a similar situation.

Best of luck to you!!!

sigh ya.. i got the vaping when i'm alone thing down.. it seems like anyway. i have cravings here and there but i jus chain vape into a coma and it eventually goes away ;D

it's just when i'm with friends that smoke.. and unfortunately the asian culture is that everyone and their mom smokes ;D that combined with me not really wanting to bust it out in public ...

guess it's really up to me to overcome it

thx for the reply and advice, well appreciated =]
 

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Try the higher voltages and higher juice e.g. 36mg. Anything to keep you off the analogs ;)

Prefilled carto and 36 mg

ya got some slightly higher mg juice, a provari, and new HR atties on the way, hopefully this works out! i have some samples of 24mg and that .... gets me nauseated haha.. i think i should try bringing these ones out with me, might do the trick
 

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I always thought 6v was only for those "6v people". After using dual coils I finally understand. Anything I tried at 6v would either burn or kill the flavor. Duals are a strange breed. If I use them at 3.7 they still do a good job. At 6v they make a night at the bar a breeze. And I use 6mg! They seem to add such a good TH to any of my juices without dulling the flavor... Maybe just slightly.

The only problem with my provari is that using dual coils or a very low resistance atty, you won't be able to set it higher than ~4volts. The protection kicks in and gives a code. With mine anyway. Dual coils still work pretty darn good at 4v though. DC's are the reason I bought a roughstack actually.

I think I sound like a DC fanboy...maybe I am? I just think they may have what you need to be satisfied. good luck with the provari. provari or something like it make a great addition to vaping. Allow you to really get into finding your best vape. Good luck man.

wow glad to see the 6v is working for ya with such a low mg when you're on the outs!!! cuz i use a low mg compared to most on this board too, so maybe that'll do the trick!

i am a little confused though, if i understand correctly, you said using 6v burns your juices, but then a sentence later say the 6v gives your juice awesome TH and doesnt' dulll the flavor, can you elaborate on this? i want to do what you're doing! lol
 
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