Washington is such an embarrassment !!
I asked a friend ... Why is he all about dividing instead of uniting ??
My friend replied ... It works for him.
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I asked a friend ... Why is he all about dividing instead of uniting ??
My friend replied ... It works for him.
For the record, thats why I believe our government used to work.The opposing forces usually arrived at a consensus near the middle.Ive found thats where the truth usually lies between two extremes.
I would be just as upset if we had an extreme right wing conservative in office employing the same tactics.
But I digress......given the current state of affairs I would be very surprised if we received a response before the FDA ruling.
I would be just as upset if we had an extreme right wing conservative in office employing the same tactics.
But I digress......given the current state of affairs I would be very surprised if we received a response before the FDA ruling.
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Yes, on Thursday, when the CDC published its e-cigarette surveys at
Awareness and ever use of electronic cigarettes by US adults, 2010-2011
Awareness and Ever Use of Electronic Cigarettes Among U.S. Adults, 2010
finding that "current smokers" were 5.7 and 7.5 times more likely than "never smokers" to have ever used an e-cigarette in 2010, and that "current smokers" were a whopping 16.3 times more likely than "never smokers" (21.2% vs 1.3%) to have ever used an e-cigarette in 2011.
Unfortunately for honesty and for public health, however, CDC issued a press release (below) about its newly published study that misrepresented its own study's findings (i.e. referring to an amazing 16 fold difference in usage rates by smokers as only "significantly higher", which is a term that is more appropriate for a 2 fold difference in usage rates) and other published evidence about e-cigarettes, that attempted to scare the public and assist FDA in its potentially forthcoming attempt to impose a "deeming" regulation and other disasterous regulations on e-cigarettes, and that promoted ineffective and hazardous FDA approved drugs for smoking cessation.
I've highlighted in red the CDC press release's misrepresentations of evidence, fearmongering claims and promotions for FDA drug products.
Note that quotes by both Frieden and McAfee falsely and absurdly imply (and try to scare the public to believe) that e-cigarettes could increase cigarette consumption and cigarette smoking, while McAfee falsely implies that e-cigarette users who still smoke several cigarettes per day or per week are at greater risk of disease than pack/day smokers who don't use e-cigarettes.
About one in five US adult cigarette smokers have tried an electronic cigarette
CDC Online Newsroom - Press Release - About one in five U.S. adult cigarette smokers have tried an electronic cigarette
In 2011, about 21 percent of adults who smoke traditional cigarettes had used electronic cigarettes, also known as e-cigarettes, up from about 10 percent in 2010, according to a study released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Overall, about six percent of all adults have tried e-cigarettes, with estimates nearly doubling from 2010. This study is the first to report changes in awareness and use of e-cigarettes between 2010 and 2011.
During 20102011, adults who have used e-cigarettes increased among both sexes, non-Hispanic Whites, those aged 4554 years, those living in the South, and current and former smokers and current and former smokers. In both 2010 and 2011, e-cigarette use was significantly higher among current smokers compared to both former and never smokers. Awareness of e-cigarettes rose from about four in 10 adults in 2010 to six in 10 adults in 2011.
E-cigarette use is growing rapidly, said CDC Director Tom Frieden, MD, MPH. There is still a lot we dont know about these products, including whether they will decrease or increase use of traditional cigarettes.
Although e-cigarettes appear to have far fewer of the toxins found in smoke compared to traditional cigarettes, the impact of e-cigarettes on long-term health must be studied. Research is needed to assess how e-cigarette marketing could impact initiation and use of traditional cigarettes, particularly among young people.
If large numbers of adult smokers become users of both traditional cigarettes and e-cigarettes rather than using e-cigarettes to quit cigarettes completely the net public health effect could be quite negative, said Tim McAfee, MD MPH, director of the Office on Smoking and Health at CDC.
For quitting assistance, call 1-800-QUIT-NOW (1-800-784-8669) or visit www.smokefree.gov
. Also, visit www.BeTobaccoFree.gov for information on quitting and preventing children from using tobacco. For stories of people who have quit successfully, visit http://www.cdc.gov/tips.
Yes, on Thursday, when the CDC published its e-cigarette surveys at
Awareness and ever use of electronic cigarettes by US adults, 2010-2011
Awareness and Ever Use of Electronic Cigarettes Among U.S. Adults, 2010
finding that "current smokers" were 5.7 and 7.5 times more likely than "never smokers" to have ever used an e-cigarette in 2010, and that "current smokers" were a whopping 16.3 times more likely than "never smokers" (21.2% vs 1.3%) to have ever used an e-cigarette in 2011.
Unfortunately for honesty and for public health, however, CDC issued a press release (below) about its newly published study that misrepresented its own study's findings (i.e. referring to an amazing 16 fold difference in usage rates by smokers as only "significantly higher", which is a term that is more appropriate for a 2 fold difference in usage rates) and other published evidence about e-cigarettes, that attempted to scare the public and assist FDA in its potentially forthcoming attempt to impose a "deeming" regulation and other disasterous regulations on e-cigarettes, and that promoted ineffective and hazardous FDA approved drugs for smoking cessation.
I've highlighted in red the CDC press release's misrepresentations of evidence, fearmongering claims and promotions for FDA drug products.
Note that quotes by both Frieden and McAfee falsely and absurdly imply (and try to scare the public to believe) that e-cigarettes could increase cigarette consumption and cigarette smoking, while McAfee falsely implies that e-cigarette users who still smoke several cigarettes per day or per week are at greater risk of disease than pack/day smokers who don't use e-cigarettes.
About one in five US adult cigarette smokers have tried an electronic cigarette
CDC Online Newsroom - Press Release - About one in five U.S. adult cigarette smokers have tried an electronic cigarette
In 2011, about 21 percent of adults who smoke traditional cigarettes had used electronic cigarettes, also known as e-cigarettes, up from about 10 percent in 2010, according to a study released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Overall, about six percent of all adults have tried e-cigarettes, with estimates nearly doubling from 2010. This study is the first to report changes in awareness and use of e-cigarettes between 2010 and 2011.
During 20102011, adults who have used e-cigarettes increased among both sexes, non-Hispanic Whites, those aged 4554 years, those living in the South, and current and former smokers and current and former smokers. In both 2010 and 2011, e-cigarette use was significantly higher among current smokers compared to both former and never smokers. Awareness of e-cigarettes rose from about four in 10 adults in 2010 to six in 10 adults in 2011.
E-cigarette use is growing rapidly, said CDC Director Tom Frieden, MD, MPH. There is still a lot we dont know about these products, including whether they will decrease or increase use of traditional cigarettes.
Although e-cigarettes appear to have far fewer of the toxins found in smoke compared to traditional cigarettes, the impact of e-cigarettes on long-term health must be studied. Research is needed to assess how e-cigarette marketing could impact initiation and use of traditional cigarettes, particularly among young people.
If large numbers of adult smokers become users of both traditional cigarettes and e-cigarettes rather than using e-cigarettes to quit cigarettes completely the net public health effect could be quite negative, said Tim McAfee, MD MPH, director of the Office on Smoking and Health at CDC.
For quitting assistance, call 1-800-QUIT-NOW (1-800-784-8669) or visit www.smokefree.gov
. Also, visit www.BeTobaccoFree.gov for information on quitting and preventing children from using tobacco. For stories of people who have quit successfully, visit http://www.cdc.gov/tips.
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The last petition closed on October 17, 2011 and replies started coming on December 15th, 2011.
So last time it took 7 weeks to start getting replies.
Hi Bill
Thanks for the update ...
It's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS to me, the FDA will be coming down hard on e-cigarettes.
The FDA is still pumping out the same old Quit or Die propaganda.
I'm sure they will also wish to ban all e-cigarette ads and more.
I'm really not in the mood reading anymore posts by some who think
regulation is a good thing and the FDA won't come down hard on e-smoking.
Thanks for the update ...
It's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS to me, the FDA will be coming down hard on e-cigarettes.
The FDA is still pumping out the same old Quit or Die propaganda.
I'm sure they will also wish to ban all e-cigarette ads and more.
I'm really not in the mood reading anymore posts by some who think
regulation is a good thing and the FDA won't come down hard on e-smoking.
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Me neither, I have tried to convince many....this is NOT a situation where we will be happy to tell people "I told you so"
Even though we met the 25,000 signatures by the February 13th deadline, the petition is still accepting signatures. For those who have not yet signed, please consider doing so.
It looks like the Demon Regulations may come before the White House reply. Though the time frame you mention from the last was a couple of months, I wonder If this time, the delay is intentional.
If I was the FDA, I would want to hold off the reply until after the Demon Regulations.
I'm kind of thinking the White House could have come up with the same type of nonsense reply as they did the first time. Maybe they want to see what the Demon Regulations are going to look like first before they issue a reply (wishful thinking). Perhaps they want to blow it off altogether, being they replied once already.
The White House couldn't care less about e-cigarettes
or harm reduction in general.
or harm reduction in general.
Oh I totally agree, Though they put themselves on the spot as far as public opinion goes. It was their brilliant idea to form this petition website. Now they kind of have to take it seriously. If they start ignoring the petitions that have met the threshold it wouldn't look good.
And that is why they increased the minimum votes to 100,000. They don't really want to be bothered with these things. The WH just wants to look like they care about the little guy and his concerns. It's all smoke and mirrors IMO.
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