What is the point of this though? You know what strength it is if premade and if you DIY then you know what you put in it already?
Since I make my own and buy my NIC from a reliable manufactor(Wizard labs). I see no need to waste any money on a Nicotine test kits? I trust WL when they say the NIC I buy is 60 mg. When I get it I cut to 30ml anyway. So none of my DIY can be anyhigher.
I use a online calculator when I make my juice so I know the NIC's mg. So why on earth should I waste my money testing Nicotine %?
U SAY, well what if you make a mistake when mixing. I could make the same mistake when measuring for the TESTING, thats my reply to that.
POINT, I make no mistakes on mixing juice I am VERY careful. I right down all % before mixing and double check before adding to bottle.
....................Rest assured that there are other reasons for wanting to test for nicotine concentration, which is why I was interested.
One reason for this thread to exist is that humans are generally not trustworthy. They make mistakes, and some even lie, steal, and cause harm to others.[/I]
I'm going to try to make this post informational, so that there is some point in posting it....................
What ever floats your boat honey. If you don't trust yourself I imagine no one else should either.
But don't dog on me just because I trust myself and Wizard Lab. Wizard Labs is an FDA registered facility, give me one good reason not to trust their 60mg NIC is not what they say it is?
When I get my 60mg NIC, I immediately cut it 50% to make it non lethal on bare skin. When I make a batch I trust the calculator and since I make the same batches over and over I keep notes.
TO me, what this thread and UR dogging on me is about. Is maybe you and others are really pushing the sale of test kits for some company. USEING SCARE tactics to sell something not really needed.
My Reply:
After you make a test, who test to make sure you didn't make a mistake, then who test to make sure that guy didn't make a mistake on the test? I could go on and on but its senseless. Also the people makeing the test you buy, how can you be sure all the chemicals in the test kit are made right with no mistakes. Shouldn't you test the "test kit" to make sure its ok, then have someone test your test of the test kit....
CAN U SEE HOW STUPID THIS ALL IS. If you can't trust yourself then u can't trust anyone.
BOTTOM LINE LucentShadow:
do you test ur perscription drugs and do you trust the pharmacist? No different I can see than buying NIC from Wizard Labs or other trusted makers.
I am sorry, but you have failed, ur post is a waste of time.
Here's some questions you have to ask yourself about you not trusting others.
Do you test everything you eat and drink?
U said people make mistakes, maybe some junky who works at a bread factory accidently drops a hit of COKE or Neth into the dough and you eat it, do u test ur bread? Or you buy a cake for your kids B-day party and the baker has the flue/strep throat and coughs on your cake, do you test the cake? Or maybe you go out to the local club and order a drink, better take your test kit along and make sure the bartender doesn't slip drugs in your drink. Do you see how rediculous it is saying u can't trust anyone? Especially yourself
I'm not going to debate the merits of this thread with you, as your posts are not reasonable, or open-minded.
If, despite the information that I posted, you still think that this thread is stupid, and a waste of time, then simply leave it. It was not posted it here with the intent of aggravating you, or to convince you to do anything. It was posted for people who were interested in using it.
It's simply information, you can use it, ignore it, or scorn it. I personally don't see the point of crusading against knowledge, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
No, your posts are not reasonable, or open-minded. U see only ur side and no other, like u r always right and everyone else is wrong.
Never said the thread was stupid, I just gave my opinion which you could not handle and decided to dog on me so I returned the favor.
Lets see, u can come in and give "PROS" on the subject. But when someone comes to a post and gives the "CONS" they should just leave. Is that your attitude. When you dogged on my post, which was my opinion, that opened the door for me to do the same. If you don't want dogged on then don't putdown other peoples opinions.
I take it the purpose of testing for Nic Content is to double check your own DIY and companies you buy ready made juice from.
My point is. WHY? If you are that paranoid then ur in sad shape cause how can you trust drug companies, resturants, food makers, etc. to NOT put something harmfull into something you buy.
To me the main point of these Nic Test Kits are just to make companies money, its a scare tactic to up their income.
I suggest u do research with any company you buy Juice or NIC from. Thats what I did and I only buy Nic from WL which is a FDA registered facility
Hey Rudy,One could do that titration just once or twice randomly among different batches of nic base ordered in one place to verify if the company is worth trusting. Then, if you find the concentration to be near the said value as indicated by the company, you can then after just use what they labeled and enjoy your DIYs.
I'm from Canada and I had a bit of a hard time ordering nic base. I know a few places in the states that have good reputation that I would trust directly. But I want to make sure that I can trust my sources in Canada. It's worth doing if you don't want to get ripped off and end up having a nic base half as strong as you wanted. It's more in that sense to me than having overly dosed nic base. It is also safer to make sure it's not too concentrated (especially if you intend to sell some of your recipes).
Finally, I'm a chemist too and I will have fun measuring mine. I already did an NMR analysis of my nic base to see if there was only nicotine and PG and no other organic compounds. Not the most sensitive method to detect impurities I must admit but it was very quick and easy for me to do. I didn't observe anything else than the ''molecular signature'' signals for nicotine and PG. But because the amount of PG is well over that of nicotine, it's not a good method for determining the exact concentration.
All my eliquids are from Halo and one is my DIY Tribeca Clone. All are 18mg/ml.
When I test each one of these, I get the same result. About 4mg/ml.
Before anyone asks, I have walmart distilled water and followed the directions to the letter, over and over again.
Perhaps it is my older eyes, but when I titrate with the acid, I can only get to .2ml before it turns yellow.
Can I add more Bromothyomel Blue, so there is a bigger contrast when the color changes.
Any suggestions would be welcome. I figure I am doing something very wrong since every liquid ends up with the same result.
My DIY liquid is made with VT Nicotine, so I am reasonably confident in it's content and I would believe Halo as well.
Even in the land of swimming pools and movie stars, I can't seem to find the bromo, online I go!
Paul, nowadays ( old thread here) they sell nic test kits already assembled if you'd like at most of the better DIY supplier's.
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