Size of e-cig industry?

[Petrodus]

Kinda sorta off-topic to the subject of this thread
Reason why we aren't seeing very many new threads
on the subject of E-cigarettes in the Media and News

Try to find articles that are not obviously promoting
a vendors commercial product and or have back-links
to their e-cig websites.

Google "Electronic cigarette" (News) past 24 hours: LINK

Google "Electronic cigarette" (News) past week: LINK

Google "Electronic cigarette" (News) past month: LINK

There are places to look where you have to "dig" to find research
but the point is General e-cigs in the Media and News is difficult to
find lately ... that has some "meat on the bone"

"The Business" of e-cigarettes has been driving the market
(directly and indirectly) for a long time

 

[Bill Godshall]

After estimating that the US e-cigarette industry was $100 million in 2009, I suspect that sales could surpass $1 billion in 2012, especially if the FDA proposes a deeming regulation that would ban the sale of e-cigarettes not on the market prior to Feb 15, 2007, ban internet sales of e-cigs, ban e-cig flavorings and/or limit the amount of nicotine in e-cig products.

The more extreme regulations that FDA proposes for e-cigarettes, the higher e-cigarette product sales will soar (as lots of folks would start hoarding, especially e-liquid, for future years).

 

[Petrodus]

After estimating that the US e-cigarette industry was $100 million in 2009, I suspect that sales could surpass $1 billion in 2012, especially if the FDA proposes a deeming regulation that would ban the sale of e-cigarettes not on the market prior to Feb 15, 2007, ban internet sales of e-cigs, ban e-cig flavorings and/or limit the amount of nicotine in e-cig products.

The more extreme regulations that FDA proposes for e-cigarettes, the higher e-cigarette product sales will soar (as lots of folks would start hoarding, especially e-liquid, for future years).

Put me in coach ... I don't smoke

Makes perfect sense to me ... I'm stocked now for 2 yrs on hardware
and would buy gallons of my favorite e-juice if the FDA decides to play games.

 

[hittman]

I think most of us that have been at it for a while are already stocked up. I have enough hardware for a long time and if all else fails we can build box mods for about $8. If for some reason I couldn't vape then I might be able to survive on snus alone.

 

[sanjosse]

@petrodus, I'm with you. Me, my SS Don, my Genisis LV, my almost 2 year supply of DIY juice. I'll be good to go if the FDA "deems" it needs to generate a ....-load of income/tax off us vapers.

Clue for newbies: invest in the future. If you're going to be in it for the long run, then I suggest purchasing equipment that is end-user serviceable. Also learn how to do DIY juice. The KISS does apply here.

 

[TomCatt]

The simplest VV box mod(s):

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/220307-vvbox-vvpassthru.html?highlight=vvbox

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/252448-acdc-v2-1-a.html?highlight=acdc+v2

Just get a bunch of 510 (or whatever your preference is) battery connectors, a rebuildable atty and stock up on nicquid for DIY.

 

[Petrodus]

The simplest VV box mod(s):

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/220307-vvbox-vvpassthru.html?highlight=vvbox

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/252448-acdc-v2-1-a.html?highlight=acdc+v2

Just get a bunch of 510 (or whatever your preference is) battery connectors, a rebuildable atty and stock up on nicquid for DIY.

Worst case scenario ...
The Modding forum will be the "hottest" forum on the ECF

 

[lauragal]

Clue for newbies: invest in the future. If you're going to be in it for the long run, then I suggest purchasing equipment that is end-user serviceable. Also learn how to do DIY juice. The KISS does apply here.

Thank you for this - how do I keep it simple? I'm a newbie (started seriously/and only vaping in March). I'd really like to stock up because just reading that there could be a ban/regulation/tax hike freaks me out, and I believe already prepared juice is only good for a year? I've scanned the DIY forums and find it to be pretty confusing.

Thanks!

 

[sanjosse]

Thank you for this - how do I keep it simple? I'm a newbie (started seriously/and only vaping in March). I'd really like to stock up because just reading that there could be a ban/regulation/tax hike freaks me out, and I believe already prepared juice is only good for a year? I've scanned the DIY forums and find it to be pretty confusing.

Thanks!

Lauragal,

Like I said, basically you should keep things simple by keeping your setup simple, easy to fix by yourself, or by someone close that can fix it for you. As far as DIY juice is concerned, it can also be simple, if you don't over-think it. Try and find a vape that you can vape daily, or maybe a couple of juices that you can switch between.

Try and remember, if the --it hits the fans, I believe that the great people that textually contribute to this forum will also extend a literal helping hand to those that are less experienced, but are truly committed to a safer alternative to SMOKING!

One for all, & all for one!

P.S. I'm here for you. Please contact me when ever you need assistance. I will do my best to steer you in the right direction. If I can not help, I will take the time to find the answers you need.

Back story: I've been smoke-free for over 2 years, and I feel it is my duty (and honor) to help those that are just starting their journey.

 

[Luisa]

After estimating that the US e-cigarette industry was $100 million in 2009, I suspect that sales could surpass $1 billion in 2012, especially if the FDA proposes a deeming regulation that would ban the sale of e-cigarettes not on the market prior to Feb 15, 2007, ban internet sales of e-cigs, ban e-cig flavorings and/or limit the amount of nicotine in e-cig products.

The more extreme regulations that FDA proposes for e-cigarettes, the higher e-cigarette product sales will soar (as lots of folks would start hoarding, especially e-liquid, for future years).

That is depressing. I am feeling you sense that no matter what we do-lobby,attempt to change minds,and donate money to the "Cause" the horrible rulings are inevitable and this life saving product will be decimated by taxation,regulations,and even difficulty in purchasing.

 

[lauragal]

Thank you so much, SanJosse - since I started seriously vaping in March, my only regret was that I didn't stick to it in 2008 when I tried my first ecig - at that time, they were not as good as they are now (or at least I didn't have the info or know-how to buy juices, better batts, etc.).

I have no desire to go back, in fact, the thought disgusts me. I'm going a little crazy buying different equipment, but it will all get used! This is like a miracle for me, as I never thought I'd have it in me to give up the nasties!

That is very encouraging to hear that you (and others) have been smoke-free for so long. And come heck or high water, I will not go back to it even if ecigs were to be banned - I will stock up now and figure things out later if I have to (i.e. DIY). Thanks so much for you offer to help and I"m sure you'll be hearing from me!

 

[Luisa]

That is depressing. I am feeling you sense that no matter what we do-lobby,attempt to change minds,and donate money to the "Cause" the horrible rulings are inevitable and this life saving product will be decimated by taxation,regulations,and even difficulty in purchasing.

Anyone feel the same way?

 

[lauragal]

Yes, I do...........

 

[Petrodus]

I posted on another thread ...

They aren't going to Ban e-cigarettes
They Will eventually Ban YOUR favorite PV and YOUR favorite juice

If your favorite PV is an under-powered and high-priced Mini with sealed cartos
with low nicotine tobacco flavor ... You really don't have much to worry about.

 

[DaveP]

Blu just settled a patent agreement with Ruyan prior to its purchase by Lorillard. That leads me to wonder about patent situations with all the other ecig makers and those who sell them. I also wonder if the ecigs we buy are legal under the Hon Lic/ Ruyan patent that is registered in over 40 countries. Could other ecig makers end up being liable to apply for patent licenses or stop making and selling them?

http://www.istockanalyst.com/finance/story/5848531/clearing-the-smoke-on-e-cigarettes

Last month, Lorillard, Inc. (NYSE:LO : 125.11, -0.3) has acquired blu ecigs, a U.S. e-cigarette company, for $135 million in cash. The acquisition provides Lorillard, which owns brands such as Newport, Maverick and Old Gold, an entry in to the rapidly growing e-cigarette category.

"blu ecigs are the perfect adjacency for us to participate in the smokeless market, but in a Lorillard way. That is, e-cigarettes offer many of the benefits of other smokeless products but do so in a way that is familiar and enjoyed by current adult cigarette consumers," Lorillard CEO Murray Kessler said in a statement.

On the downside, the barriers to entry in to the market seems to be higher. On April 23, two days before its announced acquisition by Lorillard, blu ecigs settled a patent dispute with Hong Kong-based Dragonite/Ruyan who reportedly owns the exclusive patent rights to specific high quality e-cigarette technologies internationally. The settlement grants blu ecigs use of Dragonite's patent without further disruption in exchange for an undisclosed amount and continuing royalty.

"This settlement immediately raises the question if the barriers to entry in the e-cigarette market are higher than many currently believe," UBS analyst Nik Modi wrote in a note to clients.

With only a handful of patents in the industry, to compete legally, smaller players may need to pay for licenses.

 

[Petrodus]

Corporations and their lawyers are going to Duke it Out
in a fight to control the very lucrative e-cigarette market.

Oh, by the way ...
They really aren't interested in our personal "hobby" preferences
or what we think. However, they are most appreciative for all
our efforts to grow the market to what it is today.

 

[Petrodus]

A recent "Good News" post was quickly made a Sticky
For those who might have missed it ...

CBS requests information from DC area vapers: Click Here

 

[Petrodus]

2 Cows
Time to take a humorous break

Democrat
You have two cows
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
You vote people into office that put a tax on your cows, forcing you to sell one
to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take tax money,
buys a cow and gives it to your neighbor.

Republican
You have two cows
Your neighbor has none.
So?

Democracy, American style
You have two cows
The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man
in a foreign country who only has one cow, which was a gift from your government.

Bureaucracy
You have two cows
At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them.
Then it pays you not to milk them. Then the government takes both cows, shoots one,
milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms
accounting for the missing cows.

Environmentalism
You have two cows
The government bans you from milking or killing them.

Counter Culture
Wow, dude, there's like... these two cows, man.
You got to have some of this milk.