SM V3 Semovar VS Provari

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I've made up my mind. I'm getting The Eye when it gets back in stock. Expensive? Yes. Too expensive? Not to play at the top of the pack, it's not. I have Provaris and Semovar's, where am I supposed to go in regulation tube APV's? Maybe Provari will stun us with something like the Eye, great, I'll get a couple of those too! I haven't spent money on vaping gear in a while. I found once I got to the authentic top of the line gear, why would I need to spend more money? I already have backups to backups, and the best gear (for me) already. Just my two cents. While we are inundated with mech mods this last year, I still believe the future is in regulated devices. .5 ohms and 30 watts is plenty for what I need, and I prefer tube configurations, so The Eye is it for me. Maybe The Eye in 26650 would be ideal, we shall see. My two cents!

You really do need to get a hair cut...:blink:

The Eye looks like a great Mod. You will have to keep us informed as to how you like it. Neither of us has spent any money on APV's in quite a while.
 

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You really do need to get a hair cut...:blink:

The Eye looks like a great Mod. You will have to keep us informed as to how you like it. Neither of us has spent any money on APV's in quite a while.

I really do get annoyed when I place my coil, sometimes unwrap a coil, and then can't fire because I'm just under the 1 ohm limit on my devices. The newer APV's that allow lower ohms, step down voltage and perhaps a bit higher than 15 watts are exactly what I need, my friend. I'm very happy with what I have, but I'm always up for new gear when it directly addresses my issues, for which there are actually very few at this point. My latest change from organic cotton rolls to KGD has again elevated my RTA vapes to a most excellent new level. Just don't need much more than I already have. Two cents...
 

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Take a look at WAE 2 before you make a decision. Phone Guy has it. Maybe he can give you a few tips. The only couple of issues people seem to have with it is that it's 21 mm and as such might not look its best with the regular 22 mm atties. The other one is that it scratches very easily. Personally I would get a cheaper one till the new Provari ..or a new Semovar is released.


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Take a look at WAE 2 before you make a decision. Phone Guy has it. Maybe he can give you a few tips. The only couple of issues people seem to have with it is that it's 21 mm and as such might not look its best with the regular 22 mm atties. The other one is that it scratches very easily. Personally I would get a cheaper one till the new Provari ..or a new Semovar is released.


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The DNA 30 does not have step down regulation that The Eye does have. I can't believe more people don't have a big problem with this. I bump into this in my normal daily setup, which are far from extreme. 1.1 ohms at 11 watts is problematic, or so I'm told, and that's not even as good a mech will do by a long shot. two cents.
 

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Most likely the Provari is gonna have step down regulation and I assume will be a 50 watt device


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Of this, i.e., step down, I am also certain! Of 50 watts? I would be surprised. Hopefully, we shall soon see.
 
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I doubt Provape is going to jump in on the wattage-race. I believe it will either be 15-20w, with a slight chance for 30w. My reasoning for this is that I don't think they want to limit themselves to 18650-batteries. Few 18490(18500) batteries can handle the load of 30w, and even less 18350 batteries can do the same. Another reason is that there is no real need for 30++w if you use tanks, as wicking is always a limitation, and I don't think the next Provari will be aimed at the RDA-people.
 

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Hopefully they'll cater to a wider audience then just the 3-6V vapers, banish that tapered top cap to the 9th circle of hell, and either give the full 2 years warranty for free, or extend the premium warranty by more then just one additional year. These days you can get a lot more for your money the what provape are offering.
 

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I doubt Provape is going to jump in on the wattage-race. I believe it will either be 15-20w, with a slight chance for 30w. My reasoning for this is that I don't think they want to limit themselves to 18650-batteries. Few 18490(18500) batteries can handle the load of 30w, and even less 18350 batteries can do the same. Another reason is that there is no real need for 30++w if you use tanks, as wicking is always a limitation, and I don't think the next Provari will be aimed at the RDA-people.
I agree 100%. I have tried high watt devices and even owned a few dna30 devices. At the end of the day, I have my kayfuns sitting on a nice regulated device with nothing higher than 15 watts. Sure this has turned into a hobby and we all like the newest and coolest stuff, but for your average person that just wants to quit, I still see the regular provari as something totally relevant. Provape's whole appeal is a solid and reliable regulated device, and you really can't ask for more out of the Provari.

Btw..I don't own a Provari [emoji12]
 

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Pbusardo in his review of the eye said it is midway between the 2.5 and the P3. Given that the eye goes up to 24 watts I think it will be a 50 watt device.
I don't think wattage is what he meant.
I agree 100%. I have tried high watt devices and even owned a few dna30 devices. At the end of the day, I have my kayfuns sitting on a nice regulated device with nothing higher than 15 watts. Sure this has turned into a hobby and we all like the newest and coolest stuff, but for your average person that just wants to quit, I still see the regular provari as something totally relevant. Provape's whole appeal is a solid and reliable regulated device, and you really can't ask for more out of the Provari.

Btw..I don't own a Provari [emoji12]
Yeah, that's how I look at it as well.
 

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Well what do you think he meant then? He was reviewing a VW device.

It could be
* Battery efficiency
* More/better features like the "Hot Start" in The Eye, "Heat Protection" like in the Pipeline Pro, being able to use flathead batteries etc.
* Adjustable pin
* Better menu system where the stuff you don't change that often are in an extended type of menu like Semovar or Pipeline Pro.
* Maybe an Oled screen
 

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Some of the details for the new provari were release or speculated on that bargain hunters site we're not allowed to link too ;) sounds kind of like the taifun eye with a better screen? but as usual this is speculation until actually released.

My eyes and ears are everywhere in the industry. ......... always brings you the goods!

Coming Soon.

Provape will be unveiling a new Provari. They have finally taken the plunge and are coming out with a new variable wattage version. My sources tell me that this will be a 24 watt board and have a completely different display. The top cap will be interchangeable so you can have different looks. This is 100% confirmed by multiple sources.

Be on the look out here for pictures as soon as I get them.
 

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At this point, unless you want 23mm, I'd have to say wait... Assuming the info is accurate it sure sounds like a similar chip setup.... which brings me to this point, I find it hard to accept that by sheer coincidence the pv3 is 24w like the eye is 24w... makes me wonder if whatever main regulation chip is the same on the eye and the pv3 (again assuming these specs are correct)

24w is kind of an odd duck number.... 15w was pretty standard, then 20w then 30w and now 50w.... so 24w makes me think whatever the beating heart of the eye and pv3 is, it might be the same? if thats the case I'd be willing to bet the feature set on the pv3 will be close if not identical to the eye. (boost mode, thermal coil protection, etc). If the features are the same, logic tells me its the same chip in both.

Now, on the flip side of that, maybe 24w opens the door for small cell batteries (18500/18350) ... I personally carry 18650 size devices but I'm sure other might prefer a smaller size.... I think Mark Bugs said thats why the WAE2 is only 18650 because none of the smaller batteries are capable of safely sustaining the power demands of the dna30 @ 30w.

But hey, what do I know?
(answer: not much)
 

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Some of the details for the new provari were release or speculated on that bargain hunters site we're not allowed to link too ;) sounds kind of like the taifun eye with a better screen? but as usual this is speculation until actually released.


Yeah, sounds exactly like the Taifun Eye with a better screen.

To be honest, though. I prefer the "old school" screen. I have a hard time seeing anything on the OLED screens in bright sunlight.


At this point, unless you want 23mm, I'd have to say wait... Assuming the info is accurate it sure sounds like a similar chip setup.... which brings me to this point, I find it hard to accept that by sheer coincidence the pv3 is 24w like the eye is 24w... makes me wonder if whatever main regulation chip is the same on the eye and the pv3 (again assuming these specs are correct)

24w is kind of an odd duck number.... 15w was pretty standard, then 20w then 30w and now 50w.... so 24w makes me think whatever the beating heart of the eye and pv3 is, it might be the same? if thats the case I'd be willing to bet the feature set on the pv3 will be close if not identical to the eye. (boost mode, thermal coil protection, etc). If the features are the same, logic tells me its the same chip in both.

Now, on the flip side of that, maybe 24w opens the door for small cell batteries (18500/18350) ... I personally carry 18650 size devices but I'm sure other might prefer a smaller size.... I think Mark Bugs said thats why the WAE2 is only 18650 because none of the smaller batteries are capable of safely sustaining the power demands of the dna30 @ 30w.

I think you are spot on when it comes to battery size. Provape has always had love for the smaller size batteries. You can't even get a Provari in a 18650 size without an extension cap. Might be the same chip with firmware update.

I don't own a Provari.
 
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