smocare dna 40 china clone of hana dna 40, does anyone else have this???

[invisiblehand13]

Okay so before anyone starts in on the clone thing, I own an authentic vapor flask v2.1 dna 40 as well, so that out of the way, I just wanted to bulk up my dna 40 collection and bought a couple of these for less than even 1 authentic would have cost me and now I am kind of regretting it. So main question here is does anyone else have one of these and is there anything I could do to fix it. When it works, it works just like the authentic evolve board, when it doesn't it for some reason just continues to fire, the screen is frozen, it does not matter what button you hit, I can not figure out the parameters that cause this either as I have tried everything I can think of...hot or cold, fully cranked on wattage or not, nickel build or not, tank or rda, temp high or low, nothing seems to matter, any advice would be great and I will include pics and video below... ...ugh video is too big but I will upload to youtube and provide link...

 

[invisiblehand13]

And here is link... http://youtu.be/WHlAjMaHdmU

 

[cough]

its from 3fvape?

 

[invisiblehand13]

its from 3fvape?

No it is from a company out of china, brand name is "smocare" and the manufactuer is a "shenzhen" company, they make this version which is a hana clone and then the other version branded as an "ana box" but both have same chip...it is a great device when it works but when it does this you have to pull the battery to reset and sometimes it will work for an entire day with no problems and others it will act up like 6 or 7 times, very annoying...

 

[invisiblehand13]

I am just wondering if anyone has any ideas as the results I am getting seem to be "random" with no constant variable other than the device itself, my conclusion is the chip but I am open to ideas to try and fix myself, I have some experience and it seems t be well built other than the malfunctioning at "random"

 

[dr g]

The chances that china has successfully cloned the dna40 are slim. What exactly is it doing?

 

[invisiblehand13]

The chances that china has successfully cloned the dna40 are slim. What exactly is it doing?

I would say it is semi successful and if you watch the video link I posted and read the above it is all there but I digress... It will work just fine temp control and all for hours on end and then randomly it will freeze up in the firing mode and nothing other than a battery pull reset will fix it, you can click the buttons, pull the atty off, anything other than a battery pull and it just remains frozen in fire mode, screen frozen and wattage locked in at whatever it froze at

 

[invisiblehand13]

At first I assumed it was only because the chip was not accurately handling the temp control feature but then after switching to a nichrome and then a kanthal build it produces the same results...it is not all the time, in fact as far as I can tell it is completely random...it will work fine for entire days and then the next morning return to freezing maybe multiple times in a row, maybe just once, I can not figure it out

 

[Spirometry]

My authentic DNA-40 did that before I sent it back for rma. With mine if the output voltage went over 3 volts it would continue to fire without pressing the button.

 

[invisiblehand13]

My authentic DNA-40 did that before I sent it back for rma. With mine if the output voltage went over 3 volts it would continue to fire without pressing the button.

Really??? Thank you for a trip in the right direction, the R and D department I am dealing with with smocare has been asking me to try and find what is causing this and I will try this new parameter!!!! Thank you!!! but to everyone else any other idea's are greatly appreciated...

 

[retird]

My authentic DNA-40 did that before I sent it back for rma. With mine if the output voltage went over 3 volts it would continue to fire without pressing the button.

Was yours a Vapor Shark with a daughter board switching system?

 

[invisiblehand13]

Was yours a Vapor Shark with a daughter board switching system?

For proprietary reasons I did not want to get into this but no, it is a Chinese manufactured DNA40 clone chip, all made in house by a company call "shenzhen aistar" and the brand name is "smocare" they have nothing to do with vaporshark, hana, evolve or any other mainstream DNA 40 device, that is why their R and D is all over me trying to figure this out, I got first batch along with a lot of others and their production pieces, to my understanding, will be branded with their own "ana box" logo and not the "hana" logo, I just asked for it and the delivered lol

 

[BlueSnake]

Evolv has had trouble getting the genuine boards working OK. That being said these boards have a long way to go before I would even consider a clone.

 

[retird]

For proprietary reasons I did not want to get into this but no, it is a Chinese manufactured DNA40 clone chip, all made in house by a company call "shenzhen aistar" and the brand name is "smocare" they have nothing to do with vaporshark, hana, evolve or any other mainstream DNA 40 device, that is why their R and D is all over me trying to figure this out, I got first batch along with a lot of others and their production pieces, to my understanding, will be branded with their own "ana box" logo and not the "hana" logo, I just asked for it and the delivered lol

I read that... my question was to Spirometry......on his device...

 

[invisiblehand13]

Double post

 

[invisiblehand13]

I read that... my question was to Spirometry......on his device...

Oh...my bad lol

 

[invisiblehand13]

Evolv has had trouble getting the genuine boards working OK. That being said these boards have a long way to go before I would even consider a clone.

Agreed...partially...I get that the authentic boards had their learning curve but why can't china clone what is nothing but an electronic board? They just have to work out the same kinks that evolve did and in my honest opinion, I feel china has always done that faster, they take what we make and make it better, they are the actual manufacturer of almost EVERY electronic device on the market in the states today for one simple reason...they do it faster and cheaper...that being said, would you not like any apple product simply because china made it? 'cause they do, in fact last I checked almost 90% of what we buy today is from china...just saying, now back on point, I am really just looking for any other possible causes of what is going on, not really comments about not trusting a china clone DNA 40 board

 

[dr g]

My authentic DNA-40 did that before I sent it back for rma. With mine if the output voltage went over 3 volts it would continue to fire without pressing the button.

That would have no relevance at all to this mod.

Agreed...partially...I get that the authentic boards had their learning curve but why can't china clone what is nothing but an electronic board? They just have to work out the same kinks that evolve did and in my honest opinion, I feel china has always done that faster, they take what we make and make it better, they are the actual manufacturer of almost EVERY electronic device on the market in the states today for one simple reason...they do it faster and cheaper...that being said, would you not like any apple product simply because china made it? 'cause they do, in fact last I checked almost 90% of what we buy today is from china...just saying, now back on point, I am really just looking for any other possible causes of what is going on, not really comments about not trusting a china clone DNA 40 board

China has not even cloned the DNA20 or 30 successfully. Evolv sells electronics to China. Very, very few companies can say that.

 

[tehdarkaura]

there isnt a whole lot to temp control contrary to the stories of magic that evolv has sold everyone -- hysteresis is the hardest thing to nail down perfectly and i would bet thats the issue you are having -- there is likely an interupt being called before a timer runs out and that causes it to freeze up because that wasn't properly planned for.

see if you can get it to more consistently have the issue when its cold or hot out -- see if you continue to inhale after letting go of the fire or start inhaling earlier than normal if that contributes to the issue. once you can give them a path to consistently reproduce the issue they will do it on their side on a unit that has a debugger attached and be able to see exactly whats causing the failure -- hopefully they were smart enough to include a way for you to upgrade the firmware to test the fix like via usb upload like IPV did. Good luck.

 

[invisiblehand13]

That would have no relevance at all to this mod.

Um...why would that have no relevance to this mod??? Do you have the spec sheets and board layouts in front of you??? Are you an expert (I know I am not just fyi) on either the evolve board or the one in this clone???



China has not even cloned the DNA20 or 30 successfully. Evolv sells electronics to China. Very, very few companies can say that.

That may be but how long until china does crack it??? Just because OTHER companies have failed at successful clones of previous versions means that this one is doomed to fail because you say so???