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I am able to mtl on the Atlantis by closing the afc almost all the way and using my own drip tip, however when I used the apex. 5 ohm that did not go well because I had to turn it up high to get vapor but then it burned my juices. They don't do well above 11 to 13 watts. I'm thinking now it will depend more so on my juices than the coils.

@cooladdict I think if I get non aiv baker's or teas I might be ok with the ceramic. I'm dying to try it but I def want a tank with lots of head options.

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What ratio of PG and VG are you vaping? I know you told me but I can't remember what you said. :facepalm: Higher VG will help keep the juice from burning at higher wattage, too. :)
 

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iJoy also has a "Reaper Geek" on their website:
IJOY reaper Geek tank

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But it doesn't really look like a tank from that pic. Does anyone know if this is an add-on for the Reaper plus? Like a conversion kit? or a stand alone unit?
It's called the IJOY Reaper Geek Tank, so it's a Tank that holds 3 Reaper Heads. Look at the exploded view on the right. It also has a 510 and a Drip Tip.

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It must be a huge diameter, top-fill tank. Reading it (and looking at the picture), to get 9 coils you would be using three 0.3Ω Stainless Steel Triple-Coil Heads or three 0.4Ω Nico Triple-Coil Heads.

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Reaper Plus Specs & Heads (for the Triple-Coil Head listing)​

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What ratio of PG and VG are you vaping? I know you told me but I can't remember what you said. :facepalm: Higher VG will help keep the juice from burning at higher wattage, too. :)
No clue cause aiv you don't get to pick your pv/vg if given the choice 50/50.

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It's called the IJOY Reaper Geek Tank, so it's a Tank that holds 3 Reaper Heads. Look at the exploded view on the right. It also has a 510 and a Drip Tip.

IJOY-reaper-Geek.jpg

It must be a huge diameter, top-fill tank. Reading it (and looking at the picture), to get 9 coils you would be using three 0.3Ω Stainless Steel Triple-Coil Heads or three 0.4Ω Nico Triple-Coil Heads.

201512241907271851.jpg

Reaper Plus Specs & Heads (for the Triple-Coil Head listing)​

201512241908251872.jpg


201512241908169807.jpg

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That's crazy! I am still confused by the description, though, because it is called an atomizer in the description but it's called a tank in the name. I wonder how much juice it holds? I also wonder if it can run less than 3 heads at once. So many questions! :)
 

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No clue cause aiv you don't get to pick your pv/vg if given the choice 50/50.

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Maybe try a juice that is max VG (or even 80/20) and see if that helps stop the burning of the liquid. I know that both higher PG levels and the addition of sweeteners are problematic with lower ohm coils. That's too bad you can't choose your levels with AIV. Some juice companies will let you customize if you contact them about it when you order but I don't know if AIV does that or not.
 
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I've seen other Chinese manufacturers call a Head Tank an Atomizer. I guess anything that can atomize a juice into vapor is game for the Atomizer title.

There aren't any details listed about it that I can find. I wondered about juice capacity myself. I doubt that it would work with less than 3 Heads installed, but for higher Ohms, three RBA Heads could be used.
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Maybe try a juice that is max VG (or even 80/20) and see if that helps stop the burning of the liquid. I know that both higher PG levels and the addition of sweeteners are problematic with lower ohm coils. That's too bad you can't choose your levels with AIV. Some juice companies will let you customize if you contact them about it when you order but I don't know if AIV does that or not.
That's a great suggestion. :thumb: I've been told that most of them will accept custom orders.
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I've seen other Chinese manufacturers call a Head Tank an Atomizer. I guess anything that can atomize a juice into vapor is game for the Atomizer title.

There aren't any details listed about it that I can find. I wondered about juice capacity myself. I doubt that it would work with less than 3 Heads installed, but for higher Ohms, three RBA Heads could be used.
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This is true! Because three 1-ohm coils would equal about .33 ohms, right? I assume it works the same way with prebuilt heads as it does with just coils, but I am still learning, lol.
You are right about the manufacturers calling tanks atties. I can't imagine dripping on prebuilt heads, so the tank must hold at least a little juice! I wonder if there are other products in the works for the Reaper coil heads? I am anxious to try them out, so I am stalking tracking to see when my Reaper Plus will be here. It's in Los Angeles now, so hopefully by Tuesday or Wednesday! :)
 

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If you had ever had a piece of Sintered Ceramic in your hand and done things to it to see if it was fragile or brittle, then you would know that it is not. I have. Have you? Do your research to get answers to your questions!!! Start your own thread about it. Get your facts and then come back.
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I have not held sintered ceramic, so I'm no expert like you, but I have been doing some homework about sintered porous ceramic (defined as a brittle material by scientists). At your request, I have started a thread about it, citing a scientific study regarding it's thermal degradation. I would appreciate some expert's thoughts on it in regards to it's safety.

safety concerns of sintered ceramic wicks/coils
 
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Yes, if three coils (or Heads) of the same Ohms are used, you would divide by 3. If they aren't all the same Ohms, you would have to use a parallel resistance calculation to know the total Ohms in advance.

With three Heads, I would think it should hold quite a bit of juice because it would go through it quickly. The pictures don't show a site window for juice level, but there may be one somewhere. Looking at three Coil Heads with them touching in a circle, the outside diameter is about 25mm by itself. They probably aren't actually touching inside the Geek Tank, but this should mean that the Geek Tank is at least a 30mm diameter tank.

There are 8 Heads, including a single coil and dual coil RBA. What thoughts might you have for others? This one really isn't designed for MTL. It's a Cloud Monster!
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Yes, if three coils (or Heads) of the same Ohms are used, you would divide by 3. If they aren't all the same Ohms, you would have to use a parallel resistance calculation to know the total Ohms in advance.

With three Heads, I would think it should hold quite a bit of juice because it would go through it quickly. The pictures don't show a site window for juice level, but there may be one somewhere. Looking at three Coil Heads with them touching in a circle, the outside diameter is about 25mm by itself. They probably aren't actually touching inside the Geek Tank, but this should mean that the Geek Tank is at least a 30mm diameter tank.

There are 8 Heads, including a single coil and dual coil RBA. What thoughts might you have for others? This one really isn't designed for MTL. It's a Cloud Monster!
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Oh I meant more tanks, not heads, lol! I would like to see a design that appeals to the MTL vapers as well as the cloud chasers. The Reaper might do that, but definitely not the Geek! :)
 
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Oh I meant more tanks, not heads, lol! I would like to see a design that appeals to the MTL vapers as well as the cloud chasers. The Reaper might do that, but definitely not the Geek! :)
We'll have to suggest that as another option for the Reaper Plus. :)
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I have not held sintered ceramic, so I'm no expert like you, but I have been doing some homework about sintered porous ceramic (defined as a brittle material by scientists). At your request, I have started a thread about it, citing a scientific study regarding it's thermal degradation. I would appreciate some expert's thoughts on it in regards to it's safety.

safety concerns of sintered ceramic wicks/coils
Then you can share this in your thread.

100%VG absolutely cares about safety concerns, but he likes to have his facts straight before voicing them.
  1. The study was made on Clay Ceramics. This is not what we use for vaping ceramics. There is no Calcium Oxide or Titanium Dioxide in a Vaporesso cCell. There is Nickel and Chromium, but I don't have the percentages. Please see the Components chart below. The two ceramics are different!!!
  2. The study says " Four (4) types of test samples (with particle sizes ranges of 45–63 μm, 63–90 μm, 90–125 μm, and 125–250 μm) were prepared", "compacted", and "fired to 1,300°C." The Vaporesso sintering process is stated as 1000°C. Vaporesso had stated that the flow size between the sintered particles is 12 μm, so the powered particles used in a cCell are smaller than those in the study, and the finished product is therefore less brittle due to more surface area being bonded together. Also, please see this.
  3. The study says "The samples were first heated in a furnace to 1,000°C at the rate of 10°C min−1. A holding time of 30 min was then applied to the samples before quenching (cold-shocking) them into a container of water that was maintained at 5.0°C." This is ridiculously far beyond any vaping conditions!!!
  4. The Vaporesso Ceramic is wrapped with two sheets of Organic Cotton and encased in a metal shell that is inside the Head's outer casing. The cotton helps to protect the ceramic against shocks (among other things), and the inner metal shell holding the ceramic has a Silicon Washer that is about 1-1.5mm thick on top, which can also act as a shock absorber. The wrapped cotton extends below the ceramic and acts as a padding below the ceramic, which helps to prevent shorts, but also acts as a shock absorber. Safety was an integral part of the cCell design.

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The composition of the study ceramics and the Vaporesso ceramics are different enough that they should not be compared. And even if they weren't, the extreme temperature conditions of the study make its findings invalid for a vaping comparison.

Now, get something that applies to vaping conditions (even extreme dry hits), using the same materials, and report that.

I will, of course, update this information if/when I get the composition of the IJoy ceramic being used.
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Then you can share this in your thread.

100%VG absolutely cares about safety concerns, but he likes to have his facts straight before voicing them.
  1. The study was made on Clay Ceramics. This is not what we use for vaping ceramics. There is no Calcium Oxide or Titanium Dioxide in a Vaporesso cCell. There is Nickel and Chromium, but I don't have the percentages. Please see the Components chart below. The two ceramics are different!!!
  2. The study says " Four (4) types of test samples (with particle sizes ranges of 45–63 μm, 63–90 μm, 90–125 μm, and 125–250 μm) were prepared", "compacted", and "fired to 1,300°C." The Vaporesso sintering process is stated as 1000°C. Vaporesso had stated that the flow size between the sintered particles is 12 μm, so the powered particles used in a cCell are smaller than those in the study, and the finished product is therefore less brittle due to more surface area being bonded together. Also, please see this.
  3. The study says "The samples were first heated in a furnace to 1,000°C at the rate of 10°C min−1. A holding time of 30 min was then applied to the samples before quenching (cold-shocking) them into a container of water that was maintained at 5.0°C." This is ridiculously far beyond any vaping conditions!!!
  4. The Vaporesso Ceramic is wrapped with two sheets of Organic Cotton and encased in a metal shell that is inside the Head's outer casing. The cotton helps to protect the ceramic against shocks (among other things), and the inner metal shell holding the ceramic has a Silicon Washer that is about 1-1.5mm thick on top, which can also act as a shock absorber. The wrapped cotton extends below the ceramic and acts as a padding below the ceramic, which helps to prevent shorts, but also acts as a shock absorber. Safety was an integral part of the cCell design.

Ceramic%20Components.jpg


The composition of the study ceramics and the Vaporesso ceramics are different enough that they should not be compared. And even if they weren't, the extreme temperature conditions of the study make its findings invalid for a vaping comparison.

Now, get something that applies to vaping conditions (even extreme dry hits), using the same materials, and report that.

I will, of course, update this information if/when I get the composition of the IJoy ceramic being used.
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This is amazing, VG! Thank you for posting such technical information in a way us mere mortals can understand it. I would think that the ceramic used in vape coils is probably closer to dental ceramic than clay ceramic, lol.
 

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Hey @Roadtrip635! Have you seen this yet? Moar sinter!!! :D
I saw the Reaper Plus tank a couple days ago, but didn't realize that sintered ceramic coils would also be an option. I do like the design and features, the top-side fill is just like the OBS Crius, which I love. I have my eye on this one for sure, besides any reason to sneak "sinter" into a conversation is a good one! :p

That Reaper Geek sounds kinda crazy, definitely looking like a fog machine.
 

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Interesting.... Im curious about two things in the pics though, circled below... what is the ICC coil? or is it a coil. and how exactly do you get a "Best FEELING taste" do you FEEL the unicorn puking in your mouth with it? :)

The feeling of unicorn puke in your mouth may be more palatable than a mouthful of

Reindeer Poop by Flavor West



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