Smok TFV4 Competitor - IJOY Reaper Plus Tank

[cooladdict]

I saw the Reaper Plus tank a couple days ago, but didn't realize that sintered ceramic coils would also be an option. I do like the design and features, the top-side fill is just like the OBS Crius, which I love. I have my eye on this one for sure, besides any reason to sneak "sinter" into a conversation is a good one!

That Reaper Geek sounds kinda crazy, definitely looking like a fog machine.

Ha! I was wondering why you weren't posting here. Yep, sintered coils are an option on this one! I am very excited to try the Reaper Plus, but I am just a little skird of the Geek, lol. Can you imagine vaping that while driving??

 

[cooladdict]

The feeling of unicorn puke in your mouth may be more palatable than a mouthful of

Reindeer Poop by Flavor West


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Ha! What a yummy looking juice with a nasty sounding name!

 

[KenD]

So has anyone gotten this tank yet, or is it strictly preorder still? I'm most interested in the RBA 2 with the velocity style deck (though it does seem to have the screw holes drilled through. Looks like it's the RBA 2 that is included but does anyone know for sure? Anyone know how large the deck is, compared for example to the Crius or Aromamizer RDTA?

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[cooladdict]

I just got mine. I haven't tried it yet, but I took some pictures of the package, the tank, the RBDA and the .3 ohm coil that was installed in the tank. I have a question about the coil I got because one of the legs is sticking out a little one the bottom, but I want to try the stainless steel Clapton that came with it anyway, so I will deal with that later, lol.

I don't know anything about the Velocity, so I cannot comment on which style this deck is but check out the pics and see if they answer you question. If not, hopefully 100%VG will get his tank today or tomorrow. He has a whole lot more knowledge than I do about rebuildables!

 

[Stinkytofus]

I just got mine. I haven't tried it yet, but I took some pictures of the package, the tank, the RBDA and the .3 ohm coil that was installed in the tank. I have a question about the coil I got because one of the legs is sticking out a little one the bottom, but I want to try the stainless steel Clapton that came with it anyway, so I will deal with that later, lol.

I don't know anything about the Velocity, so I cannot comment on which style this deck is but check out the pics and see if they answer you question. If not, hopefully 100%VG will get his tank today or tomorrow. He has a whole lot more knowledge than I do about rebuildables!
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how'd u get it so fast

 

[cooladdict]

how'd u get it so fast

I got it for review, which is forthcoming. I am getting ready to try out that 0.3 ohm 316L stainless steel dual coil just as soon as I decide on a flavor!

EDIT: The SS coil is NOT a Clapton build. I got cornfuzzled.

 

[nelsonm64]

I got it for review, which is forthcoming. I am getting ready to try out that 0.3 ohm 316L stainless steel Clapton coil just as soon as I decide on a flavor!

review? youtube?

 

[KenD]

I just got mine. I haven't tried it yet, but I took some pictures of the package, the tank, the RBDA and the .3 ohm coil that was installed in the tank. I have a question about the coil I got because one of the legs is sticking out a little one the bottom, but I want to try the stainless steel Clapton that came with it anyway, so I will deal with that later, lol.

I don't know anything about the Velocity, so I cannot comment on which style this deck is but check out the pics and see if they answer you question. If not, hopefully 100%VG will get his tank today or tomorrow. He has a whole lot more knowledge than I do about rebuildables!
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That's the velocity style deck, thank you. The wire holes are incredibly small though. Better wait for a version two (I don't use prebuilt coils).

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[cooladdict]

review? youtube?

I will post here on the forum. I don't do technical videos or anything like that but rather just give real-world experience and findings and try to answer questions if I can.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I will post here on the forum. I don't do technical videos or anything like that but rather just give real-world experience and findings and try to answer questions if I can.

Really looking forward to hear your thoughts! Those holes on the RBA V-deck do look pretty small.

 

[cooladdict]

That's the velocity style deck, thank you. The wire holes are incredibly small though. Better wait for a version two (I don't use prebuilt coils).

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The prebuilt coils for the RBA are definitely tiny. I don't know anything about them yet, but I will install one at some point to see what it reads. I want to run the coil heads until they go bad, though, to see how long they last and report performance on that before I get into the RBA part. I do have some 26 gauge Ti wire I want to try in the RBA that will fit nicely. VG will be posting his findings as well, so the RDA is definitely going to be covered.

 

[cooladdict]

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The prebuilt coils for the RBA are definitely tiny. I don't know anything about them yet, but I will install one at some point to see what it reads. I want to run the coil heads until they go bad, though, to see how long they last and report performance on that before I get into the RBA part. I do have some 26 gauge Ti wire I want to try in the RBA that will fit nicely. VG will be posting his findings as well, so the RDA is definitely going to be covered.
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Well shoot, sorry about the double post on the picture. I thought my cursor was set underneath the text and when I didn't see the picture I "fixed" it.

 

[100%VG]

So has anyone gotten this tank yet, or is it strictly preorder still? I'm most interested in the RBA 2 with the velocity style deck (though it does seem to have the screw holes drilled through. Looks like it's the RBA 2 that is included but does anyone know for sure? Anyone know how large the deck is, compared for example to the Crius or Aromamizer RDTA?

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The post holes do look small in the pictures, but that's mostly because the grub screws are screwed in much of the way. I got 24g through with plenty of room to spare. 24g is the fattest wire I have, but with so much room to spare, it should take 22g.

The outer diameter of RBA 2 is ~19mm. The airflow comes from under the coils and are 3.5mm each. The juice flow channels are huge (IMO). The build deck is about 13mm, but it is recessed a little because of the threading for the chimney/cap. The Velocity-style posts are ~12mm across them, but the ID of the Cap is not much wider, so the grub screws will need to be screwed in far enough not to cause a short. If I unscrew a grub screw in both side just enough to open the wire holes, the Cap will not screw on, so the fattest possible wire cannot be used.

The minimum space between grub screws is ~6mm.

Using a drill bit set for a Dremel Tool, a 1/32" bit will fit through, but I can't tell if a wire that size in both holes would allow the Cap to screw on and not short. 1/32" = 0.03125". According this wire chart, that would be about 20.5g. So 22g should work fine. It may take 21g, if there is such a thing. But 20g Kanthal will not work. A softer wire in 20g might.

Sorry, but I don't have a Crius or Aromamizer RDTA. This is why I gave as many dimensions as I could. If I missed something, please let me know.
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[100%VG]

That's the velocity style deck, thank you. The wire holes are incredibly small though. Better wait for a version two (I don't use prebuilt coils).

Considering my post above, I think the RBA 2 may suit your building preferences.
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[100%VG]

So far, I like the Reaper Plus a lot. I find it very easy to fill with a glass eyedropper. There is a chamber around the Coil Head with 4 juice holes in it, which is Closed to Fill and Open to Vape. It can also be used as a Juice Flow Controller. It is easy to spin and operate for Filling or Juice Flow Control. It's a very cool design. The Fill Port cover ring on top opens and closes easily for Filling. The Fill Port is wide enough that I had no issues using an eyedropper.

The juice I'm using in it is a DIY that was a gift. It is all VG except for about 7% flavoring that is PG-based, and thinned with Distilled Water. This was my first time trying it, so the Flavor ability of the Tank is hard to judge. I was given a duplicate that was thinned with 8% Everclear Pure Grain Alcohol, so I'll try it next. I've been vaping that in a Kayfun, so it will make a good comparison for Flavor.

The Air Flow from the bottom Airflow Ring is great, and it also has adjustable air on top by the Drip Tip. I haven't needed that as yet. I've been using it with the Airflow Ring all the way open. The only thing I haven't done yet is figure out how to fully disassemble the Tank for Cleaning.

I forgot to talk about the Drip Tip. The hole through it is 6mm, and the bore opens up to 8mm. Personally, I'd like to see this Stainless Tank with Clear O-Rings and a Clear Fill Port ring, but that's me. All in all, it's a great Cloud tank. I really wish a Ceramic ICC Coil Head was in the kit, though. Mine came with a Triple Parallel Coil 0.3Ω SS 316L OCC Head, and a Dual Parallel Coil 0.4Ω Kanthal OCC Head. The 0.3Ω SS 316L Head works great in TC Mode on a Mod that can handle it, too. If you don't have one, you can vape it in VW Mode.

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[100%VG]

I also forgot to mention that I tried Mouth to Lung with the Reaper Plus, and I can't see this one doing a good job for that style of vaping. The RBA 2 might, but I think the optional RBA 1 would be a better fit for MTL.

I haven't tried the 0.4Ω Kanthal yet, so when I do, I'll post about that and MTL.
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[BigEgo]

I see zero reason to use ceramics as coils. Of course, there are MANY different types of ceramics with many different chemical compositions, so the term "ceramic" really has no meaning.

What is it about a metal wire and cotton that they feel needs to be improved upon? Is it health? I've seen no evidence that metal leeches into the vapor to any significant degree. Is it a higher heat resistance? I don't see that as being a problem with metal (depending on the type) either. Sure, it's probably not a good idea to glow your coils red hot, but even if you do, the amount of metal exposure is still probably below the acceptable daily limit.

And, as for dry hits and "burnt taste" that is easily solved with TC devices.

Now, if we can devise a ceramic that is better than cotton for wicking, that would be great. Something that is as heat resistant as silica with the malleable properties of cotton. Something that is also immune to embrittlement at high heat. I am thinking some sort of mineral fiber would be in order here.

 

[100%VG]

One reason is that the kind of sintered ceramic used in recent days will not burn like cotton can. It can recover from a Dry Hit when juice wets it again. Cotton can't in many cases. Some manufacturers claim that it is more healthy. I can't speak to that, but the Flavor in the recent ones I've tried is the best I've found to date. The coils are still the same metals used with cotton, so that is not it. The ceramic replaces the cotton at the coil, and in the recent coils I've used (Vaporesso cCell), the coil is embedded in the ceramic and partially exposed at the center air channel in a vertical coil configuration.

It is recommended NOT to glow burn the ceramic to try to clean it in a cCell, but that is because the ceramic is wrapped with two thin sheets of organic cotton, and a dry burn could damage that and degrade the flow rate. The juice flow rate to the ceramic is limited by that cotton wrap. I have not seen an IJoy ICC Ceramic Head yet, so I don't know if they are the same kind of ceramic as a cCell or not.

They make a TC Coil in a ceramic cCell, too. Again, the ceramic delivers better Flavor. You'd have to try it for yourself to know the difference, but I fully understand that a ceramic head is not for everyone. If you are leery of the technology, then wait to use it until there is enough evidence to convince you, or at least make you feel comfortable about it. There are no reasons, other than any you may feel good about. If it's not for you, then feel good about what keeps you off the stinkies. Different strokes for different folks.
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[BigEgo]

One reason is that the kind of sintered ceramic used in recent days will not burn like cotton can. It can recover from a Dry Hit when juice wets it again. Cotton can't in many cases. Some manufacturers claim that it is more healthy. I can't speak to that, but the Flavor in the recent ones I've tried is the best I've found to date. The coils are still the same metals used with cotton, so that is not it. The ceramic replaces the cotton at the coil, and in the recent coils I've used (Vaporesso cCell), the coil is embedded in the ceramic and partially exposed at the center air channel in a vertical coil configuration.

It is recommended NOT to glow burn the ceramic to try to clean it in a cCell, but that is because the ceramic is wrapped with two thin sheets of organic cotton, and a dry burn could damage that and degrade the flow rate. The juice flow rate to the ceramic is limited by that cotton wrap. I have not seen an IJoy ICC Ceramic Head yet, so I don't know if they are the same kind of ceramic as a cCell or not.

They make a TC Coil in a ceramic cCell, too. Again, the ceramic delivers better Flavor. You'd have to try it for yourself to know the difference, but I fully understand that a ceramic head is not for everyone. If you are leery of the technology, then wait to use it until there is enough evidence to convince you, or at least make you feel comfortable about it. There are no reasons, other than any you may feel good about. If it's not for you, then feel good about what keeps you off the stinkies. Different strokes for different folks.
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Yes, I agree. I was thinking they were using some ceramic as the heating element itself. I have no problem with ceramic as a wick provided it is the right type of ceramic with the right physical properties. The only reason cotton is used is because A) it's cheap B) it's freely available and C) it's easy to manually wick. But if you think about it from a physics standpoint, cotton is terrible as a wicking material because it burns.

I want to see some sort of mineral fiber become available. Something that you can wick like cotton but has high heat resistance. I miss the days of being able to dry burn silica. The problem with silica, of course, is it is a ..... to wick and you have to build your coils around it.

 

[100%VG]

I want to see some sort of mineral fiber become available. Something that you can wick like cotton but has high heat resistance. I miss the days of being able to dry burn silica. The problem with silica, of course, is it is a ..... to wick and you have to build your coils around it.

The way things have been progressing, it may not be too long before we have something like that.

Have you thought about submitting that idea to any of the manufacturers? I think it's a great one.
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