Smokers opinions on vaping

[SteveS45]

My mom is a lot like your dad as an ex-smoker that hates on smokers/smoking but she has been surprisingly accepting of my vaping when ever she decides to go on a rant about smoking, mainly to/around smokers, I kindly remind her that as a previous smoker of 40-50 years who only stopped because she had a heart attack... she lost the right to say anything about it at all.

In my opinion I think the Heart Attack gives her every right. Last August I lost someone very close to me who died of Lung Cancer that metastasized to her liver, lungs and brain after 5 years of being cancer free. She originally gave up cold turkey when she was diagnosed with emphysema. Over the years she never biotched at me for smoking but she did say me that I do not want to go through what she was going through.

Till this day I still say I quit for me but it did have some to do with it.

 

[sofarsogood]

Has anyone else come across smokers like this? I was standing outside work the other day vaping. I used to be a smoker but gave up in January. I got chatting to a guy who I work with who is a smoker and he said "oh you're onto those now [vaping]" and I said yeah and mentioned how much money I'd saved. His response was "hmmm, I'm not buying that". Smoking, I spent upwards of £35 a week. Vaping, I probably spend £5 a week on, if that. So obviously that's flawed completely.

Then my mum said she was talking to a man the other day who was smoking and she'd mentioned about me switching to vaping. His response was "yeah but that's still as dangerous". Has anyone else found this? Like smokers trying to justify that vaping is just as bad? I mean, if you want to smoke and not give up, then that's obviously your choice and that's fine but there's no denying how dangerous it is for your health, as well as the ridiculous expense of it.

Plus, those that keep saying that vaping is dangerous, since giving up smoking, I've taken up running and in the first 2 weeks, ran about 45 miles! I'm pretty sure when I was on the cigarettes, I wouldn't have been able to run a mile!

I tell smokers I could smoke one of their cigarettes on the spot with no worries about relapsing. That would be pretty good proof that vaping is a superior experience to smoking. I've smoked a couple of cigarettes in the 16 months since I stopped smoking to demonstrate that to another smoker who has since stopped smoking thanks to vaping.

Apparently the smart people know that vaping doesn't help you stop smoking. Actually it means it doesn't help smart people stop smoking. And that proves there must be advantages to being dumb.

 

[CookingWithGuns]

I've been lucky I guess, none of the smokers I know seem to care. In fact most of them are envious because they tried vaping but it just didn't cut it (usually on a blu), or they said that they just couldn't find a juice that mimicked the cig they were used to. A few I gave address to this forum and a few starter kits that would be better than that quick of the shelf you see at supermarkets and they switched.

 

[SteveS45]

I tell smokers I could smoke one of their cigarettes on the spot with no worries about relapsing. That would be pretty good proof that vaping is a superior experience to smoking. I've smoked a couple of cigarettes in the 16 months since I stopped smoking to demonstrate that to another smoker who has since stopped smoking thanks to vaping.

When I first quit I told my neighbor who is an old smoking buddy if I come over asking for a smoke don't give it to me! When I asked him for one he would not give it to me because of what I said. He put them down so I could take one and I told him not to worry it will not make me start back up being a smoker. I was not able to finish it and I spent the rest of the evening washing my hands and mustache because the stink made me nuts.

 

[SteveS45]

Now if I vape while he smokes he starts chain smoking because of the enjoyment he sees me getting.

 

[Grimwald]

I live in a college town (I'm way past college age). A few years ago I had a few peope who were interested because you could vape in bars or a work. Unfortunately, as the ANTZ propaganda took hold, all of that changed. Lost the best argument for switching.

 

[Beeker]

Today I had my latest experience with smoker trashing vaping and it was outside our medical centre I was coming out he was having a last ciggie before going in I took out my sx mini ready to have a puff when he said "keep using them and you'll need more medical help then this place can give you, they blow up so easily". I walked back to him and just said I smoked for over thirty years each year feeling worse and I switched to vaping just over three years ago and have felt better every year don't believe everything you see in the media look into it for himself. I didn't make the switch to vaping till I was ready and had someone tried to convince me before I was ready I'd have been defensive as well, everyone has to be ready to make a change and until they are it's just not going to work. Just because some of them express themselves with stupidity doesn't mean we have to be anything but polite in dealing with them as there by the grace of God go I.

AMEN...I often find myself thinking that...and statistically there have been only 25 instances of exploding e-cigs reported between 2009 and 2014 in the US [ https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/electronic_cigarettes.pdf ]...I wonder how many fires were caused by smoking in bed during that same time period...or car accidents caused 'cause your smoke fell between you legs while driving?

 

[sofarsogood]

AMEN...I often find myself thinking that...and statistically there have been only 25 instances of exploding e-cigs reported between 2009 and 2014 in the US [ https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/electronic_cigarettes.pdf ]...I wonder how many fires were caused by smoking in bed during that same time period...or car accidents caused 'cause your smoke fell between you legs while driving?

I follow ecig news as close as I can. The accidents I've read about, not many, sort out like this. It's always about a venting battery and that happens in three situations, during charging, loose in a pocket with exposed terminals, or a mech mod. A couple months ago there was a pocket fire where the battery supposedly vented spontaneously in a regulataed mod in a pocket. If that's what happened it might be a first which is why I have doubts.

But this, just in, a team of government scientists has determined that vapers emit greenhouse gases a million times more destructive than any other source. We're destroying the planet! If that isn't enough we're corrupting the youth. Now they hang out in vape shops instead of bars and taverns. Government officials call this "worrying".

 

[daviedog]

I've found in life, it's better to focus on the positive, not the negative.
So better to help smokers quit with vape, than spend too much of your mind battling with misperceptions.

The proof is in the pudding, so better to spend your time making pudding than debating it.

Not to mention eating it..

 

[daviedog]

To walk up to a total stranger & and start yakking about smoking/vaping seems incredibly rude..
No one converted me,,have no interest converting others.
Vaping is not a religious experience,,it's a fun hobby.
Not to mention a life saver.
My thoughts about vaping today. Sure to change tomorrow..

 

[NWI_ Arbuckle]

Has anyone else come across smokers like this? I was standing outside work the other day vaping. I used to be a smoker but gave up in January. I got chatting to a guy who I work with who is a smoker and he said "oh you're onto those now [vaping]" and I said yeah and mentioned how much money I'd saved. His response was "hmmm, I'm not buying that". Smoking, I spent upwards of £35 a week. Vaping, I probably spend £5 a week on, if that. So obviously that's flawed completely.

Then my mum said she was talking to a man the other day who was smoking and she'd mentioned about me switching to vaping. His response was "yeah but that's still as dangerous". Has anyone else found this? Like smokers trying to justify that vaping is just as bad? I mean, if you want to smoke and not give up, then that's obviously your choice and that's fine but there's no denying how dangerous it is for your health, as well as the ridiculous expense of it.

Plus, those that keep saying that vaping is dangerous, since giving up smoking, I've taken up running and in the first 2 weeks, ran about 45 miles! I'm pretty sure when I was on the cigarettes, I wouldn't have been able to run a mile!

Here's my take on it...

If you were/are a smoker and you get into vaping to quit smoking, then it's probably 1000x times better for you (physically, mentally, and economically).

However, I despise of the kids that get into it for the FAD. it seems like kids are doing it to be cool, and when smokers see that they associate ALL OF US with those FAD kids (you know, the ones that just go for the biggeat clouds??).

Anyways, after smoking for 11 years my $70 setup lasted 4 months, and since then it's about $10/month give or take (depends on what I want to try or test).

However I've also helped sell these to guys I work at the mill with, and more people here are picking it up. It's not okay to smoke at your station, but my foreman does not G.A.F. that I blow "Neptune" (strawberry, blueberry, hint of vanilla) in his face when he walks by.

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[MudVaper]

Since I started vaping full time, have had both positive and negative remarks. Ironically, most of the negative is from smokers; popcorn lung is still the most common remark.

If I feel they will be receptive, I give them the facts. If not, I tell them they should look at the real science, not the phony journalism out there.

I was getting a quick vape in while walking across a parking lot into a restaurant a few weeks ago.

Cold and snowing (small town in Alaska) and this guy and his wife I know are standing outside shivering and smoking.

The guy yells out "Lee gets her smoke from a machine now!."

I laughed really hard, having never thought of vapes as machines. I could also tell he was being kind of derisive.

I just answered, "this has changed my life."

His whole demeanor changed at my response.

 

[SteveS45]

I will only impart my opinion of vaping on someone who is interested and being an X smoker I know where their head is at and I gave up talking the the wall year ago. If they are curious I will offer my knowledge and experience with it and always make a point saying this in my opinion and not hard fact.

 

[MudVaper]

I will only impart my opinion of vaping on someone who is interested and being an X smoker I know where their head is at and I gave up talking the the wall year ago. If they are curious I will offer my knowledge and experience with it and always make a point saying this in my opinion and not hard fact.

That's how I approach it too.

Our state's sanctioned anti-tobacco organization has recently gotten onto a serious anti-vaping campaign that is so full of lies and innuendo I am seriously considering filing a complaint against the message as fraud with the attorney general's office.

I resent my tax dollars (especially the ridiculous taxes my husband still pays on cigarettes) being spent to lie.

Here is an example of money this organization spend on expensive advertising at the Anchorage airport.

 

[SteveS45]

Heck surprised that doesn't have mention of Exxon! Lawmakers and politicians do this during campaigns to each other so why should "We The People" be any different?

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Has anyone else come across smokers like this? I was standing outside work the other day vaping. I used to be a smoker but gave up in January. I got chatting to a guy who I work with who is a smoker and he said "oh you're onto those now [vaping]" and I said yeah and mentioned how much money I'd saved. His response was "hmmm, I'm not buying that". Smoking, I spent upwards of £35 a week. Vaping, I probably spend £5 a week on, if that. So obviously that's flawed completely.

Then my mum said she was talking to a man the other day who was smoking and she'd mentioned about me switching to vaping. His response was "yeah but that's still as dangerous". Has anyone else found this? Like smokers trying to justify that vaping is just as bad? I mean, if you want to smoke and not give up, then that's obviously your choice and that's fine but there's no denying how dangerous it is for your health, as well as the ridiculous expense of it.

Plus, those that keep saying that vaping is dangerous, since giving up smoking, I've taken up running and in the first 2 weeks, ran about 45 miles! I'm pretty sure when I was on the cigarettes, I wouldn't have been able to run a mile!

The ANTZ community thinks anyone that likes nicotine should die from smoking and don't see the benefits of harm reduction, they are paying for smear campaigns, they are touting assumptions as facts and worst of all they are aggressively and blatantly lying to the public about the benefits of switching from smoking to vaping, their movement is LITERALLY killing people that may have made the switch but haven't because of their lies.

I enjoy nicotine in my chosen delivery method, I should NOT have to die because I enjoy nicotine.