I used Cisco 306 1.5 ohm atties... And switched to DCs.. Icould revive a 306 by debridging it.. that lasted a while.. But then the flavor died again... I do not have the same issues with the DCs. Although they di not produce as hot, and strong of a vapor and TH, I am a convert to DCs.. especially now that I do not get boiling juice on my tongue..
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Depends on the juice, and prefs....
To me no two atties taste exactly the same...even of an identical model.
The nice thing about the dualies is that they're inexpensive enough to try a box or two. If you don't like them with one juice, do be patient enough to try them with other stuff in your stash. I'm kind of nutty like that...have stuff I like better in filler cartos, stuff I can only drip, a few I like best in an 801 with cart, and stuff that works best in a CE2 or even a G4.
Variety can be a nice spice in life
Is the newer filler material a good replacement for the blue foam that I currently use instead of the white filler(godawful) that comes with 510 caps?
Does anyone sell just this filler if it is better? I still have over 10 atty's that will need some.
Thanks!
Does anyone sell just this filler if it is better? I still have over 10 atty's that will need some.
Thanks!
You can get the blue foam at almost any pet store. They're just cut from aquarium filters. You can get the blue stuff, or you can get Fluval. I found Fluval worked best, though you have to use more of it (about twice as long and wide as the cart opening) and compress it down more due to the larger pores. It also won't work on XL carts; too much liquid for the material to prevent gravity from doing its thing.
You can't replace the filler material in these cartomizers though -- but honestly, you really don't need to. The design allows it to wick almost all the liquid from the filler.
I already am hooked on the blue foam.
Is this newer filler better than the blue foam?
Is this newer filler better than the blue foam?
It isn't really a proper comparison. The reason the blue foam (or Fluval) worked better in cartridges is because standard polyfill tended to trap liquid below the top, while other methods (blue foam, Fluval, PTBs) allowed more liquid to flow more freely to the atomizer bridge without leaking. (In smaller carts anyway. This didn't work well in XL carts/atomizers because there was too much liquid over a larger volumetric area for the material to be able to prevent gravity from doing its thing.)
The design of these cartomizers makes that problem irrelevant. The issue with carts/atomizers (and most other cartomizers) is that liquid has to travel through the cartridge filler to the top, transfer to the bridge, then to the wick, then to the coil to be atomized. It does this by the bridge pushing into the filler and soaking up the liquid, then the wick soaking up liquid from the bridge, then the coil atomizing the liquid in the wick. But if the liquid doesn't rise to the top of the cart easily, the bridge can't get at it, so it ends up drying out long before the cart is empty of juice, which is just trapped below.
These cartomizers have a vertical dual coil design that runs through the center of the filler material. That means that, at most, the liquid only has to travel from the wall of the carto to the coil in the center, which is only a few millimeters, and it does this from all sides, not from the top down. Because of this, the coils are also able to atomize liquid from all sides; more surface area to feed the coils with juice means more vapour produced and a shorter distance for the juice to travel. There isn't enough filler for the juice to become trapped in. Plus, there's no bridge (it's not needed, the coils have "socks" covering them to keep them from burning the polyfill) so the coils have more direct access to the juice.
In short, you don't need alternative filler material. The polyfill works perfectly. You could say the filler works better than blue foam, yes, but it's due mainly to the design, not so much the materials.
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I was thinking of buying the Liquinator to combine with these cartomizers.. does anyone know if these are the same Dual Coil brand that's talked about on this thread?
if possible i'd like to buy them both from the same website
510 Dual Coil Vape-O-Matic Liquinator 3mL
if possible i'd like to buy them both from the same website
510 Dual Coil Vape-O-Matic Liquinator 3mL
As I understand it, SmokTech currently make all of the dual coils (and now the triple) that are on the market right now.
nocturn,
The Liquinator rocks with the dual coils. I preffer the 3mil version with my mega DC's. Gives you some finger hold to tighten the carto. Get the 3mil version and then get a 5mil body for +/-$5. You can ibnterchange the body and see if you like the 5mil or 3mil.
The Liquinator rocks with the dual coils. I preffer the 3mil version with my mega DC's. Gives you some finger hold to tighten the carto. Get the 3mil version and then get a 5mil body for +/-$5. You can ibnterchange the body and see if you like the 5mil or 3mil.
How do they work exactly? Do they use existing cartos you already have or do you have to buy them from the sameplace? It's not clear from the picture but it looks like there's a notch out of the carto inside the 3ml version in the above link, which suggests the liquid seeps in from the side near the battery connector end.
Use your existing carto's. 1.5's, 1.25's...doesn't matter. Check this video out on how to make your own:YouTube - Liquinator Walkthrough.MTS
The hardest part is getting off the black wrapper on your DC's...
The hardest part is getting off the black wrapper on your DC's...
COV is selling 3.5 ml dual coils atm. Straight from smoktech. No need for cutting them up and sticking in a tank, already bigger 8)
I did see that Madvapes are selling there own in addition to the SmokTech's...don't say who makes 'em...
Also,
So who here is successfully using a 3.5ml and how long are they lasting?
I don't need to see the liquid fully (could just be a line of clear to see inside) but from what I understand, only the clear ones are easy to take apart for cleaning???
Thanks!
Also,
So who here is successfully using a 3.5ml and how long are they lasting?
I don't need to see the liquid fully (could just be a line of clear to see inside) but from what I understand, only the clear ones are easy to take apart for cleaning???
Thanks!
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510 3.5ml Dual Coil Cartomizers - Clear
I don,t even try to clean any cartos. The great part is how cheap they are. These 3.5 ml ones are overpricd ATM, but more vendors will be carrying them for cheeper soon. Use them then chunk them
I don,t even try to clean any cartos. The great part is how cheap they are. These 3.5 ml ones are overpricd ATM, but more vendors will be carrying them for cheeper soon. Use them then chunk them
How long are the Colossal sized ones lasting you so far Stownz?
I'm thinking if they average out to under $2 a day to operate including the juice...they're not a bad value at all.
Not sure if these are SmokTech, but Nhaler has something DC in a couple of thread types now at $4.00 each.
Clear Colossal Dual Coil Cartomizers
New Varying Resistance Dual Coil 510+801 Colossal Cartomizers
Your take?
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Definitely keeping my eye on these. More juice, less topping up. What's not to love?
Just ordered some thursday, along with some of the 3 coil cartos. Havn't recieved them yet. Would imagine they will last as long as the regular ones. its the same thing, just put in a bigger tube with more polyfill.
The last ones I ordered from Nhaler where their "Jumbo" cartos. They were absolute nasty fail, but they did hold 3ml. They were just some real cheap made single coils and reminded me of the reason we all used to hate cartos. Cartos have gotten a lot better then they used to be, even before the dual coils, but those jumbos were a carryover of the old bad designed ones.
The other link from Nhaler is the 3.5ml dual coils from smoktech by the looks of the picture.
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awesome, thanks for your input. I'm thinking what I will do is try out these dual coils for my fruit flavors when i'm chillin at home.. and use atties on the go (when i'm craving the analog taste alot more and want the TH)
Depends on the juice, and prefs....
To me no two atties taste exactly the same...even of an identical model.
The nice thing about the dualies is that they're inexpensive enough to try a box or two. If you don't like them with one juice, do be patient enough to try them with other stuff in your stash. I'm kind of nutty like that...have stuff I like better in filler cartos, stuff I can only drip, a few I like best in an 801 with cart, and stuff that works best in a CE2 or even a G4.
Variety can be a nice spice in life
hm, i think that solves some mysteries =P sigh why is everything with vaping so darn finicky!? >.<
i usually don't mind fiddling with stuff, but really... vaping is nothing but fiddling and inconsistency unfortunately.. so atm i don't need variety ;D
but I will definitely take your advice and test out different juices before I make an opinion on these dual coils
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