SmokTech Telescope is air tight!

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appletux

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I think you can intuitively concur that no vent holes = not safe. I applaud this video and taking a stand for the vaping community. The fact that Smoktech recalled them and is making changes to the design seem to substantiate these claims. I don't get why people are still questioning this after the designer of the mod has pretty much accepted that there are not enough safety precautions on the device.

Negative publicity is always negative publicity.
 

RobertH

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I have joked around a little but all joking aside i appreciate what Sense Field has done here. As a matter of fact i am affected very much by all this being i am somewhat of a newbie to vaping and still in the phase of what device will i buy next. I have been looking at moving up from my ego twist to something a little more,,hmm, shall we say a little more advanced, you know with the rechargeable/replaceable batteries and such. And to be honest i sort of like the way this thing looks and has the Telescopic feature. Not to mention it's in my price range for "see if i like it" purchases.
Which brings me to another concern that may or may not have been brought up.. That being,How many of these device's have already been sold and in the hands of users? Are they aware of the safety concerns? I ask this after reading that this site only reflects 10% of the people that use such devices.
Maybe this has already been addressed with the vendors and purchasers.
Thank you and have a great weekend,Rob.
 

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I think you can intuitively concur that no vent holes = not safe. I applaud this video and taking a stand for the vaping community. The fact that Smoktech recalled them

Where did you hear that?
Just asking because if they correct the faults, I'm interested in buying one.
 

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This is what i call FUD aka (Fear, uncertainty and doubt). While i appreciate that some people have concerns about safety, you have to do a real test on the device. An inflated balloon doesn't have enough pressure to make the air reach inside the tube.

In the other hand, you have to do a real test, that is using a real battery inside de device and make it explode!. Figure it out. The semi hermetic could be , in fact, a safety feature while containing most of the toxic gases and liquids from the battery inside the tube. Overheating should not be a problem with metallic surfaces and this kind of battery.

Sorry, but using a balloon this way to make a point is meaningless. Use a real exploding battery to test it.

This is dangerous and misleading analysis.

I'd agree with you, but since a lit firecracker will blow a hand to shreds with more venting than this mod, I hardly think a critical non-IMR battery is going to "vent safely".

It's more than likely going to explode. The following mod had proper vent holes... what do you think a sealed "balloon tight" mod will do?

Unprotected CR2 Batteries Blow up the Detonator / Burn Leg
 

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I agree. It's not the best idea to ask somebody (anybody) to make something explode.
We are not in the middle ages.
Our knowledge is enough to know if something is dangerous and to not use it any longer.
You don't have to get injured just to prove something is dangerous.
I know that fire is hot, but I will NOT put my hand in it just to prove that fact. Knowledge is enough.
If a device seems to be dangerous, then it's the manufacturer's responsibility to take care of the problem.
We don't have to prove freakin' anything!


This is dangerous and misleading analysis.

I'd agree with you, but since a lit firecracker will blow a hand to shreds with more venting than this mod, I hardly think a critical non-IMR battery is going to "vent safely".

It's more than likely going to explode. The following mod had proper vent holes... what do you think a sealed "balloon tight" mod will do?

Unprotected CR2 Batteries Blow up the Detonator / Burn Leg
 

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AH, Cozzi,

The old reliable 'Robert's Pocket Rocket' :)

Little vents didn't work, but the weak end did.
But with CR2 size cells in a 18mm tube, there was plenty of clearance for gas to pass (which probably did:))

I've always considered Robert's failure 'Per Design'. Maybe not the best design, but a lot better than popping the top end.
 

appletux

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This is dangerous and misleading analysis.

I'd agree with you, but since a lit firecracker will blow a hand to shreds with more venting than this mod, I hardly think a critical non-IMR battery is going to "vent safely".

It's more than likely going to explode. The following mod had proper vent holes... what do you think a sealed "balloon tight" mod will do?

Unprotected CR2 Batteries Blow up the Detonator / Burn Leg

To be honest, i think that no user should ever handle naked batteries in the first place.
And after seeing those photographs of that awful accident, i am inclined to think that an hermetic and solid tube, with high pressure tolerance, would be even safer. It might possible that the vent holes might actually help exploding gases to scape with higher and localized pressure.

The energy released from the explosion could be transferred to a less harmful condition, like trying to break the tube deforming it and heat release .

So, in my opinion, a safer device, at the event of a battery explosion, would trap the gases and liquids, and it would transfer part of the energy released to deform itself plus heat.
 

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AH, Cozzi,

The old reliable 'Robert's Pocket Rocket' :)

Little vents didn't work, but the weak end did.
But with CR2 size cells in a 18mm tube, there was plenty of clearance for gas to pass (which probably did:))

I've always considered Robert's failure 'Per Design'. Maybe not the best design, but a lot better than popping the top end.

An oldie but a goodie.

I like to pull that out from time to time to see if anyone is paying attention. If they don't, I short an unprotected battery, ask them to hold it, and run like heck!
 

appletux

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I agree. It's not the best idea to ask somebody (anybody) to make something explode.
We are not in the middle ages.
Our knowledge is enough to know if something is dangerous and to not use it any longer.
You don't have to get injured just to prove something is dangerous.
I know that fire is hot, but I will NOT put my hand in it just to prove that fact. Knowledge is enough.
If a device seems to be dangerous, then it's the manufacturer's responsibility to take care of the problem.
We don't have to prove freakin' anything!

You don't have the knowledge, but the knowledge is there!
 

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Where did you hear that?
Just asking because if they correct the faults, I'm interested in buying one.

GotVapes has asked everyone who has purchased them to send back the bottom tube. Smoktech is creating new tubes with vent holes which will be used going foward on this mod. There is a lot of information on the GotVapes section of this forum. I can't remember all the details, but that is the jist.
 

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The balloon guy is a really great guy. :)
He made a risky video (because he couldn't know what will the people say about it) and did something to force a big company to recall a bad product.
I give him a thumbs up for that! :thumbs:

When are you guys gonna go back to picking on the balloon guy?
That was more fun to watch :)
 
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