Smoktech Vmax Owners - tips, tricks and quirks

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The Hill Giant

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Ah geez...my reply may open up a can of worms....but here it goes.

Dual coils were actually built around 3.7v devices as a away to get the vapor production of say a 1.5 LR without muting the flavors hence the 3.0 ohms. VVs like the Buzz and ProVari had a good 1 year run but still weren't immensely popular while the bulk of the market was and probably still is mechanical mods.

Ideally you should benefit the most from using standard single coil cartos for VV devices. The VV discounts the need for using LR or HR atomizers since your attacking the other side of the equation. That being said I still use Dual Coils with my VV devices and still use 1.5 DCCs because I a have PV ADD and contantly swap tanks between my mechanicals and VVs.

If I just used VVs and nothing else I would probably go with a 2.0 or 2.5 Single Coil in my tanks.

Now, let me get my helmet and slicker on.....ok...let the vegetable and egg pelting begin

Interesting. I must have been misinformed. I was under the impression that dual coils were designed specifically for high voltage devices, and were meant to be pushed to 5+ volts.
 

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To add to what Snow sir said, single coil cartos at lower ohms start muting aspects of flavors in a juice. This it's why even though they make 1.5 ohm single coil cartos they never really caught on. To battle this they made dual coil cartos, which gave you the th and vapor production of the low ohm carto, with the flavor profile of a medium ohm carto. Allowing someone using a 3.2-3.4v regulated device like it was a 5v device vp and th wise, without dulling down what they were vaping....
 

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Ah geez...my reply may open up a can of worms....but here it goes.

Dual coils were actually built around 3.7v devices as a away to get the vapor production of say a 1.5 LR without muting the flavors hence the 3.0 ohms. VVs like the Buzz and ProVari had a good 1 year run but still weren't immensely popular while the bulk of the market was and probably still is mechanical mods.

Ideally you should benefit the most from using standard single coil cartos for VV devices. The VV discounts the need for using LR or HR atomizers since your attacking the other side of the equation. That being said I still use Dual Coils with my VV devices and still use 1.5 DCCs because I a have PV ADD and contantly swap tanks between my mechanicals and VVs.

If I just used VVs and nothing else I would probably go with a 2.0 or 2.5 Single Coil in my tanks.

Now, let me get my helmet and slicker on.....ok...let the vegetable and egg pelting begin

Hate to be the first :) but when the LR DC Cartos first came out most sites warned against using 3.7v devices under a given mah?? rating as the amp draw was too much for some batteries. I personally never could get a decent vape from them with anything under 4.5v but a lot of people were pretty happy with 2ohm DC units on fat bats.

Errol
 

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Sending off my Vmax for repair today ( fried chip ). word of warning for those using RBA's on your vmax , test for shorts and make sure it's all good on a back up device like a ego twist, sounds like common sense but, I just learned the fun way 2 days ago (damn learning curves with RBA xD ) but.....the flavor is / was ....ing awesome, rocking the RBA on my twist and ha cha cha cha flavor country. ^^
 

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To add to what Snow sir said, single coil cartos at lower ohms start muting aspects of flavors in a juice. This it's why even though they make 1.5 ohm single coil cartos they never really caught on. To battle this they made dual coil cartos, which gave you the th and vapor production of the low ohm carto, with the flavor profile of a medium ohm carto. Allowing someone using a 3.2-3.4v regulated device like it was a 5v device vp and th wise, without dulling down what they were vaping....

So I should be going for higher ohm single coil with the VMax, then?
 

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So I should be going for higher ohm single coil with the VMax, then?

I would highly recommend the 3 ohm bridgeless dripping attys from smartvapes, a 510 extender and a drip shield and poof, sexy lil set up that you can rock at as high a voltage as you feel like taking the vmax (5v kicks out huge vapor clouds from these thing) Or some 3 ohm singe coil cartos, like a kanger horizontal coil because you can turn those into attys when the filler starts tasting funky ^^
 

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I would highly recommend the 3 ohm bridgeless dripping attys from smartvapes, a 510 extender and a drip shield and poof, sexy lil set up that you can rock at as high a voltage as you feel like taking the vmax (5v kicks out huge vapor clouds from these thing) Or some 3 ohm singe coil cartos, like a kanger horizontal coil because you can turn those into attys when the filler starts tasting funky ^^

I wish I could. Can't do the dripping. I travel too much and vape in the car.
 

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Just saying; I have an much used AVA LR 1.6 atomizer that was really kicking .... on the Mmax v2 at anywhere from 3.0 to 3.6.
It has gone down to 1.3 lately and I'm getting a lot of F1 error codes. which means too low. I was hoping that wouldn't be an issue with the Vmax.
I have it on my Provari V2 now at about 3 and it's going (although i like the AVA with extra voltage)...
Time to try an SR AVA on the Vmax.
 

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The Hill Giant (guessing sir) it's all a matter of preference. On the Provari usually use 2.0 ohm dual coils at 5.3v, but depends on the juice. That's the advantage of vv, you can pretty much use anything and adjust to your needs. When my next vmax arrives will be using ohm ranges from 1.5-6.0 on it during testing. Hoping this one survives longer than the previous two (v1 and v2 respectively).
 

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Well I am way out of warranty on my ProVari and I wonder what is in store for the future for ProVape. Once China can find a way to make a comparable product US makers have to face a few realities that simply come down to numbers on paper. If I do sell my ProVari I sign up for another 1 year full replacement warranty on the Vmax.

If I worked at a quarry, construction, warehouse, etc. I would never sell my ProVari simply due to it's almost milspec design. There are 4 things that there is just no getting around with the ProVari, the weight, the batteries, replacement value, and the inability to dial down voltage should you inadvertently click past your sweet spot.

Trust me, I thought I would be buried one day, my cold hand clinching my ProVari. But I have felt this way about many things in my life, the fact that my ProVari has gone unchallenged for 18 months in a world where new mods come out every other week is a testament to it's quality.

Just sharing....to each their own, the SS Vmax has impressed me beyond belief, these are both great mods in their own right.

Why fix something that isn't broken? The problem with importers is they try to tinker with things that in reality, don't need to be tinkered with and start putting out subpar things that are not only a waste of time, but more importantly a waste of money! How many versions of the LT have people wasted their time and money on so far? They are already on the 3rd version of the Vmax and it hasn't even been a year, (seems more like 8 months), since it was 1st released!! I could be wrong about the time line, but think I am very close on it. The 2nd version should've been with the fixed changes to the 1st and also VW. I can't believe how many people out there are willing to just give their money away to importers on subpar devices. Maybe this is why Provari makes such a rock solid device and it's cost would indicate that they took their time in producing and thoroughly testing such a device, and in return deserve to be paid for putting out quality over quantity.


IMO, I would still keep the ProVari, the longevity of the board hasn't proven itself yet..I hope it does, as you can buy 2 VMax's for the price of 1 Provari :) ..idk, def tempting..I'm not completly sold yet...but getting there

Well as we have seen so far, the wiring certainly hasn't been the greatest as yet!! Again, subpar... I would have to say in the past week, (at least), if not two, there has been posts from users that have had devices failing and either had to send it in for repair or replacement, tinker with something to get it working, or just gave up and ordered another device, (because its such a great device)!! It is hard to comprehend how anyone out there thinks that this is anywhere near proving it is a great device!!!! I will again point out the fact that the Vmax hasn't even been on the market for a year as yet!! At the rate they are going, and by the way the vaping community has responded so far, they should be on version 5 or 6 by the time they do reach the 1 year mark...

I would like to remind everyone that I am not a Provari fanboy or fanboy of any APV on the market.... These are my opinions and mine alone!! There is not a perfect device out there in the market and probably will never be when all we show vendors out there is how willingly we are to waste our money on such subpar products!!!! What is the incentive for them to supply us with anything other than what they are supplying already???????? I think the industry has taken a few steps backwards with devices like the Vmax and the LT's.... The only winner or winners in this whole thing are manufacturers like Provape and such, because they know, (and we all have witnessed as of late), some people are tired of all things subpar and have come to the conclusion they could actually be saving money in the long run by buying a quality device......
 

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Why fix something that isn't broken? The problem with importers is they try to tinker with things that in reality, don't need to be tinkered with and start putting out subpar things that are not only a waste of time, but more importantly a waste of money! How many versions of the LT have people wasted their time and money on so far? They are already on the 3rd version of the Vmax and it hasn't even been a year, (seems more like 8 months), since it was 1st released!! I could be wrong about the time line, but think I am very close on it. The 2nd version should've been with the fixed changes to the 1st and also VW. I can't believe how many people out there are willing to just give their money away to importers on subpar devices. Maybe this is why Provari makes such a rock solid device and it's cost would indicate that they took their time in producing and thoroughly testing such a device, and in return deserve to be paid for putting out quality over quantity.




Well as we have seen so far, the wiring certainly hasn't been the greatest as yet!! Again, subpar... I would have to say in the past week, (at least), if not two, there has been posts from users that have had devices failing and either had to send it in for repair or replacement, tinker with something to get it working, or just gave up and ordered another device, (because its such a great device)!! It is hard to comprehend how anyone out there thinks that this is anywhere near proving it is a great device!!!! I will again point out the fact that the Vmax hasn't even been on the market for a year as yet!! At the rate they are going, and by the way the vaping community has responded so far, they should be on version 5 or 6 by the time they do reach the 1 year mark...

I would like to remind everyone that I am not a Provari fanboy or fanboy of any APV on the market.... These are my opinions and mine alone!! There is not a perfect device out there in the market and probably will never be when all we show vendors out there is how willingly we are to waste our money on such subpar products!!!! What is the incentive for them to supply us with anything other than what they are supplying already???????? I think the industry has taken a few steps backwards with devices like the Vmax and the LT's.... The only winner or winners in this whole thing are manufacturers like Provape and such, because they know, (and we all have witnessed as of late), some people are tired of all things subpar and have come to the conclusion they could actually be saving money in the long run by buying a quality device......

You're too late. The vmax is already a resounding worldwide success with thousands of happy owners who all know better than your lame attempt to trash the device in an owner's thread. Go troll elsewhere.
 

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Why fix something that isn't broken? The problem with importers is they try to tinker with things that in reality, don't need to be tinkered with and start putting out subpar things that are not only a waste of time, but more importantly a waste of money! How many versions of the LT have people wasted their time and money on so far? They are already on the 3rd version of the Vmax and it hasn't even been a year, (seems more like 8 months), since it was 1st released!! I could be wrong about the time line, but think I am very close on it. The 2nd version should've been with the fixed changes to the 1st and also VW. I can't believe how many people out there are willing to just give their money away to importers on subpar devices. Maybe this is why Provari makes such a rock solid device and it's cost would indicate that they took their time in producing and thoroughly testing such a device, and in return deserve to be paid for putting out quality over quantity.




Well as we have seen so far, the wiring certainly hasn't been the greatest as yet!! Again, subpar... I would have to say in the past week, (at least), if not two, there has been posts from users that have had devices failing and either had to send it in for repair or replacement, tinker with something to get it working, or just gave up and ordered another device, (because its such a great device)!! It is hard to comprehend how anyone out there thinks that this is anywhere near proving it is a great device!!!! I will again point out the fact that the Vmax hasn't even been on the market for a year as yet!! At the rate they are going, and by the way the vaping community has responded so far, they should be on version 5 or 6 by the time they do reach the 1 year mark...

I would like to remind everyone that I am not a Provari fanboy or fanboy of any APV on the market.... These are my opinions and mine alone!! There is not a perfect device out there in the market and probably will never be when all we show vendors out there is how willingly we are to waste our money on such subpar products!!!! What is the incentive for them to supply us with anything other than what they are supplying already???????? I think the industry has taken a few steps backwards with devices like the Vmax and the LT's.... The only winner or winners in this whole thing are manufacturers like Provape and such, because they know, (and we all have witnessed as of late), some people are tired of all things subpar and have come to the conclusion they could actually be saving money in the long run by buying a quality device......

Hate to break it to you but the Provari had it's fair share of problems when it released and took a while to get it perfect. They just didn't rename it v2 v3 v4 untill they had to make the amp limit higher in efforts to keep up with devices like the VMax.

The VMax smokes the Provari...nuff said.
 
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Well, I don't really see any emotionally charged responses to an obvious attempt at a troll. A Provari fanboy (who say's he's not....lmao) got a little bored, decided to jump into the vmax thread and attempt to make us all feel stupid that we bought a 'subpar device !!!!!'

He was offered a couple of rebuttals and told to play somewhere else.

But I WILL take that bourbon :)
 

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I use one as my main setup now because I don't really like tank attys where I switch flavors up so often. This thing gives me the best vape I ever had hands down and on the VMax you can fog out a whole room :). Fits like a champ and looks pretty good...just the right size imo.

Oh nice!! Can't wait to get mine:) Apparently there are so many versions out already of the Pheonix rebuildable I didn't know what I was buying..lol. Ended up settling with Carolina Vapes version which has a more beveled and finished top cap...only difference I could see. They said they are made by Tobeca in China..Ended up being around 20$
 
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