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so i can pick up another strain? :?:

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Valid point, Tibs!
I've postponed my visit to get my hair cut for the same reason. When I have to go to the store, have been using their sanitizing wipes they have available for the shopping baskets.
 

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    Hubs is coming home. Older brother friend lives close to the hospital. He'll be picking him up. Should be home around 10 or so.
    Hope he's feeling good and the meds can help him stay that way!!! I bet you're glad! :). Very nice of friend to bring him home, too!:thumbs:
     

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    Hope he's feeling good and the meds can help him stay that way!!! I bet you're glad! :). Very nice of friend to bring him home, too!:thumbs:
    Not many friends left,Kat. It's an ageing problem.
     

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    I don't think we realize how many types of foods contain sugars. This could be part of my problem. I have MS fatigue, too, but it was never this bad. Think I may see a nutritionist. Thanks, Atty :). I know my one med ALSO makes me tired, so I have a triple whammy going! :shock:
    Hard to argue that one. I canceled my PCP appointment for last Friday for that reason!! Plus, I really had no need to see him. So why take the chance?
    You should see your PCP about it and get some blood panels run or something. They kind if "hate" the "I'm tired" thing, because they hear it all the time and it's too general, but they should know about it and also should get some blood-work done. None of that can be done by your nutritionist. The thing here is to watch out that insurance pays, and/or that the panels aren't too expensive (normal blood panels aren't bad).

    so i can pick up another strain? :?:

    morning, stone! ;)
    Yeah, that can happen. But if you would have CALLED in like I told you back when it was "new" they would have given you some anti-virals from the pharmacy. But like I said, they're only "meh" effective.

    Valid point, Tibs!
    I've postponed my visit to get my hair cut for the same reason. When I have to go to the store, have been using their sanitizing wipes they have available for the shopping baskets.
    Me too....near quarantine around here lately. But no flu either. :) I wash hands even after going to the mailbox. ;)

    I have a big pump bottle of sanitizer with aloe, and refilled a small one for the car. Dang germs. ;)

    Good morning snails.
    Glad DH is on the way home, Fran.
     
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    You should see your PCP about it and get some blood panels run or something. They kind if "hate" the "I'm tired" thing, because they hear it all the time and it's too general, but they should know about it and also should get some blood-work done. None of that can be done by your nutritionist. The thing here is to watch out that insurance pays, and/or that the panels aren't too expensive (normal blood panels aren't bad).

    Good morning snails.

    Good morning Atty :)

    Have had just about every test possible done, Atty. They keep saying it's my MS, combined with anti anxiety med, AND the anxiety ITSELF!!! And I get tons of blood work done about twice a year. My pcp doesn't "hate" the "I'm tired" thing, he really wishes he could help. I've been struggling with fatigue for years. This isn't new, just more and more profound. But I DO know there is too much sugar in my diet, hence a nutritionist can help me sort that out. You should know me well enough by now to know that I don't just sit and do nothing when I don't feel well. I'm proactive in ALL aspects of my health, thanks to years and years of having MS. :)
     

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    Morning,tib,Kat,dale and KC:)
    Good morning Fran

    Good morning Tibs, Fran, Dale, Kat, KC, and Snails :)

    +1 recommending Tibs consider a DR visit...too much bad news about the dangerous flu these days...just sayin' ;)

    Forecast is heavy rain all day today. Luckily, we're above freezing. :thumb:

    Have a good Sunday!
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    Valid point, Tibs!
    I've postponed my visit to get my hair cut for the same reason. When I have to go to the store, have been using their sanitizing wipes they have available for the shopping baskets.
    Good morning Gracie


    Good morning Atty


    Off to wash the hair ;)
     

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    Good morning Atty :)

    Have had just about every test possible done, Atty. They keep saying it's my MS, combined with anti anxiety med, AND the anxiety ITSELF!!! And I get tons of blood work done about twice a year. My pcp doesn't "hate" the "I'm tired" thing, he really wishes he could help. I've been struggling with fatigue for years. This isn't new, just more and more profound. But I DO know there is too much sugar in my diet, hence a nutritionist can help me sort that out. You should know me well enough by now to know that I don't just sit and do nothing when I don't feel well. I'm proactive in ALL aspects of my health, thanks to years and years of having MS. :)
    I should have assumed you'd have done that already.

    I switched off soda and mostly use soda-stream water now. Still some soda, but much less, and tapering off. And Mediterranean diet too (well, theoretically). More veggies and good fats, moderate carbs and less red meat (theoretically). I have challenges in either finding ingredients or in the "liking" of foods particularly when cooking for others.

    But veggies. Eat more veggies, and greens. Moderation in portions, etc. You know the drill I'm sure.

    For example, last night I used lean ground beef to make gyros, even with tzatziki sauce (yogurt and sour cream base, with other stuff including cucumber). Full of good gut-bacteria too. I do that with chicken too. And I LOVE rice pilaf, but eat it in moderation as a side dish (I often throw remainders out, :( )
     
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    I should have assumed you'd have done that already.

    I switched off soda and mostly use soda-stream water now. Still some soda, but much less, and tapering off. And Mediterranean diet too (well, theoretically). More veggies and good fats, moderate carbs and less red meat (theoretically). I have challenges in either finding ingredients or in the "liking" of foods particularly when cooking for others.

    But veggies. Eat more veggies, and greens. Moderation in portions, etc. You know the drill I'm sure.

    For example, last night I used lean ground beef to make gyros, even with tzatziki sauce (yogurt and sour cream base, with other stuff including cucumber). Full of good gut-bacteria too. I do that with chicken too. And I LOVE rice pilaf, but eat it in moderation as a side dish (I often throw remainders out, :( )

    I'm proud of you, as it's NOT easy to do. They say that once you get used to not having sugar, you won't miss it. I do eat lots of veggies, and not a lot of red meat, but carbs are another story. I just think a nutritionist can help me see it all better, and then I can eat better, cause I haven't done a good job of trying all on my own....:cry:
     

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    You could try Kosher recipes too if you have a good source of them ( ;) ). That's middle-eastern food, and the modern Israeli versions actually incorporate (copy, clone, customize, steal, etc) a lot of surrounding area foods. But with the internet, we browsers don't have to limit ourselves at all. The world's recipes are at our fingertips.

    I alternate between Kosher, Mediterranean, American, Mexican, Indian, Italian, and all the "Am-" versions of those, along with some Asian foods. And "American" food too...so mostly things that are "bad for ya"...sub sandwiches seem to be a weakness for some reason. And some bacon and sausage and seems like lots of eggs. But occasionally a pot roast, or other things. Just got a deal on "Buy 2 get 3 free" Bob Evans ---3 regular and 2 Italian in the freezer!.

    Beef prices suck so much that many traditional dishes are less frequent...and unfortunately ground meat is substituted too often due to price. That said, roast chicken, chicken breasts are great. And I've cut down on pork except for breakfast meat for some reason. I should eat more fish but there's "complications" in that regard.

    Proactive medicine is good. Also proactive cooking. ;) There's really so many dishes for variety.
     

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    I'm proud of you, as it's NOT easy to do. They say that once you get used to not having sugar, you won't miss it. I do eat lots of veggies, and not a lot of red meat, but carbs are another story. I just think a nutritionist can help me see it all better, and then I can eat better, cause I haven't done a good job of trying all on my own....:cry:
    I've eaten low carb for many years. I have a seizure disorder and, for me, sugar is toxic so do stay away from it as much as possible. Reading labels has become second nature to me and all of the forms of sugar that end in 'ose', I avoid. I do eat starchy carbs such as sweet potatoes but no white potatoes.

    It is true that once you are off sugar your cravings will stop.
     

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    but even chicken these days has gotten gross
    Like breasts...omg ! the size of them and they are so rubbery.
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    The tiredness with the MS...HATE it...And when you switch flips and you have a crash...just UGH !!!!
    It's like Green Light then Red Light.
    I have to force myself to remember to grab the D3 and the Bs - I really need to keepat them daily.
     

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    You could try Kosher recipes too if you have a good source of them ( ;) ). That's middle-eastern food, and the modern Israeli versions actually incorporate (copy, clone, customize, steal, etc) a lot of surrounding area foods. But with the internet, we browsers don't have to limit ourselves at all. The world's recipes are at our fingertips.

    I alternate between Kosher, Mediterranean, American, Mexican, Indian, Italian, and all the "Am-" versions of those, along with some Asian foods. And "American" food too...so mostly things that are "bad for ya"...sub sandwiches seem to be a weakness for some reason. And some bacon and sausage and seems like lots of eggs. But occasionally a pot roast, or other things. Just got a deal on "Buy 2 get 3 free" Bob Evans ---3 regular and 2 Italian in the freezer!.

    Beef prices suck so much that many traditional dishes are less frequent...and unfortunately ground meat is substituted too often due to price. That said, roast chicken, chicken breasts are great. And I've cut down on pork except for breakfast meat for some reason. I should eat more fish but there's "complications" in that regard.

    Proactive medicine is good. Also proactive cooking. ;) There's really so many dishes for variety.

    :lol::lol::lol: You can't give someone with anxiety issues TOO many choices. We freeze and do nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hence, really need a nutritionist to GUIDE me, as I SO need guided. Like I said, can't do it myself. And I have to find stuff M is willing to make, as, for a lot of things I can't stand upright to cook (too involved to explain, but MS related)!
     

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    but even chicken these days has gotten gross
    Like breasts...omg ! the size of them and they are so rubbery.
    (no wise cracks)


    The tiredness with the MS...HATE it...And when you switch flips and you have a crash...just UGH !!!!
    It's like Green Light then Red Light.
    I have to force myself to remember to grab the D3 and the Bs - I really need to keepat them daily.

    Classy, I did NOT know you have MS! Wow!!! How long have you had it? So nice to have someone who understands...:wub:....Yes, I take lots of D3 and, was in a clinical study for it, and I have NOT had a true relapse in years. I have lingering symptoms like fatigue and some numbness, and transient symptoms (there is a really neat word instead of transient, but I can't think of it), and forgetting words sometimes :lol:. How much and what kind of Bs do you take? Seems I've always had to be careful with the Bs. Too much really bothers me. WOW! I'm just stunned!

    Oh, my, here we go. I took one of my focus meds today and now I'm really chatty again. I like it, but YOU may not!!!!:lol: They ARE the ones that make me sick, but NOT if I take them just a few times a week!
     

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    but even chicken these days has gotten gross
    I thought it was my cooking.... ;)

    Yeah, I agree. I think the chickens are "older" these days, it's hard to find a young fryer for example. The other problem I have is I tend to buy in bulk pack (like 5 breasts) and then freeze them. Frozen meat is never the same as fresh.

    Simmering for a while helps if the dish supports it. Also tenderizing/brining techniques.
     

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    I thought it was my cooking.... ;)

    Yeah, I agree. I think the chickens are "older" these days, it's hard to find a young fryer for example. The other problem I have is I tend to buy in bulk pack (like 5 breasts) and then freeze them. Frozen meat is never the same as fresh.

    Simmering for a while helps if the dish supports it. Also tenderizing/brining techniques.

    I bet you are an excellent cook. I've seen you post so many recipes, etc. So, are these chickens that we are buying "Baby Boomers"? :D
    We usually buy frozen, just for the convenience of it. M is just starting to use the brining technique!
     

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