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HecticEnergy

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Please ignore all the "rebuildable" comments. It's just a distraction for new vapers..

Finding that first good vape with a reliable device can be difficult. Researching can take weeks of time trying to look at all the different products and figure out what makes a quality device. Unfortunately no one can tell you what works for you. There are a TON of products on the market (as you know), and ultimately you will have to make your own decision.

I usually recommend an MVP2.0 as well. It is a great device - solid, all inclusive, lots of battery life, variable voltage (to customize your vape - you can increase the power which can allow your eliquid to preform better in vapor production and flavor).
It is a great value at $40, and you don't have to fiddle with extra batteries and chargers.
As far as a tank goes - it comes with one, but most agree that it isn't very good. I also agree that the Aspire Nautilus Mini or regular, with the BVC coils is a good option. If $30 for a tank is too much, for $10 you can get a Protank 2 or a EVOD tank. I was very happy with those. Pick up a couple so you have a backup incase you break a tank (not common, but it does happen, and its nice to have a backup).

That said, Egos aren't bad devices - provided you have the right setup. Vision is a good brand, and I think the Kanger egos also are decently reliable. You can get a "spinner" which is variable voltage so you can customize your vape (but not quite as much as with the MVP).
If the box style of the MVP is something you don't like, a lot of people recommend the itaste vv3 - which has similar functionality but with the smaller size you have less battery life.

A LOT of people use the MVP2.0and love it. It will last you a long time (a day or more vaping before recharging, and atleast several months before itching to upgrade!). Most people that move to an MVP2.0 wonder why they didn't start there.
There is a little bit more of a learning curve, but its a set it and forget it device. It will probably take you 15 minutes to learn.

I started with Blu... then upgraded to a 1300 mAh Vision (with that you could charge via USB), and a 900 mAh vision spinner. For tanks I had a Vivi Nova, which I was happy with - but it was a bit large and leaked a bit. I also had several EVODs and a few Pro Tank 2 minis for my egos.
After 3 months I got a SmokTech SiD (which btw IS vv/vw). It was a good little performer for 6 months - but I payed $110 after the $40 mod, $40 in batteries, and $20 charger. I've upgraded to a few more advanced devices, but I'm not going to go into that for your sake!

I hope this helps!!

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Seems like everyone has answered your questions pretty good but I'll chime in. My girlfriend and I started out with EGO-c Upgrade and I had some issues with mine. Luckily the store I bought it from let me exchange it for an MVP 2.0 (took some work though). The MVP has been fantastic. I'm still using the tank it came with and its just a great deal for the $, love it. Don't let bad service and possibly faulty device get you down. Shop around and stick with it. If you have the opportunity go to a convention or other vaping related event if one is near by. I just recently got back from one and its solidified my enthusiasm for vaping. Vapers are a friendly bunch and are not stingy with sharing the wealth.

first day's bounty of juices from the event :D . All free!

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I started vaping with v2 cigs from their website which are kinda like fancy cig-a-likes. I ordered a started kit online which now I know I paid wayyy too much money for. It was like $120 for a bunch of stuff that I didn't really need. With my lack of knowledge about vaping I thought it was a good experience. I honestly thought I was using the best e-cigs on the market because I didn't know of anything else at the time, LOL!

After about 5 months or so of using all the v2 cigs stuff I finally decided that I would google the local vape shop thats right down the road. I looked at their website and saw a couple things I liked so I went down to the shop the next day and that opened up a whole new world to me. I bought a KSD e-Huge that came with a iClear 30 clone tank and I love it. I got have an Innokin iClear 30S on it now though. But ever since I went down to that vape shop I've been using their stuff.

They have awesome customer service. They are willing to help you with anything. If you bring them the stuff they will actually build your RDA for you if you don't know how. But that's pretty much my first vaping experience and where I went from there. Hope this helped a little bit!
 

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My wife and I started with a pair of Kanger Evod's and then a pair of itaste MVP2's with Nautilus Mini's. Both very good set-ups. I had a few problems in the beginning by drawing way too hard too often like I did with real cigarettes. Once I learned to take a long slow pull things got better. Good luck in your search for a good vape. Check out youtube for some good reviews of whatever you decide to get.
 

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Wow sounds like u got sent through the ringer! Again hate to be a repeater but MVP and a Pro tank 2 and replacement coils are pretty cheap. Start there and come on here and read and read and when u thought u read and researched enough go again. You will not be sorry ask questions everyone is definitely willing to help.
 

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Hi,

welcome to this forum. it's a free couch and some free advice.

some vape shops will just break themselves treating every first timer as a one-shot sale.

dont want to be a smarty pants, but that's why i went online.
the sales person at the shop may not be any better than any store online.
since i did my research online, i bought online.

my one trip to the local vape shop was paying $5 for one friggin coil that should cost me less than $3 bux shipped
for a box of 5 - yes, i did not have to wait, yes store has overhead but c'mon, almost 10x markup.
the only saving grace on this five bux iz that i spent $5 bux on the coil and not the pack of my favorite smokes.

i have seen those that stick with the local vape store and i know they spend waaay more than i do and early on, they had problems.
As they kept going back, they got some special reduced prices not available to a first-timer. Not sure if your store would do this for you.

As you get more familiar with your equipment - hopefully you will understand more of what you want/need to quit the analogs.
Then do research again, to find out what you need and go get it.

Sorry your initial experience was crappy.
At least you are starting on your path to quiting analogs and this is what you should be proud of.
Hopefully your replacements work, and like you said, if you dont like 'em, try to just sell them new online to recover some lost cash.

Pretty sure there are many good recommendations out there.
Just keep trying.

HAPPY VAPING / BE HEALTHY.


(Incoming story time...)

I've been vaping for approx. 24 hours now. My experience has been relatively good with the vaping, and absolutely terrible with the retail side.

So, after asking a friend with a vape and him sucking at responding to my texts, I decided to do my own research. As I'm sure everyone here knows (cause I read that, in multiple places here), all this research is overwhelming. So many types, sizes, flavors, features, TH, etc, etc... I finally settled on going with a basic vape and working my way up. From what I had read online, I could get one for a reasonable price, so me and my partner ventured to the local smoke shop to just dive in. Here in Orlando, Florida, we have a chain of shops called Up In Smoke.

We get there, and despite some bad reviews for the place having stupid sales reps, this guy seemed alright. He ran us through the brands he had, features, battery sizes, his shop's line of oils, and answered all of my questions to our satisfaction. The particular brand I was aiming for, an E-Go CE4, was almost 100 dollars...the item had been repackaged with their store brand packaging and I was obviously immediately turned off of that purchase.

So I asked about vape kits...and he listed off 50, 60, and 70 dollar single vape kits. None of this sounded right. We should have left. We didn't... So then he showed us the Tsunami G-Class 2 pack with a black and chrome battery. No features, no bells and whistles...just vapes. 80 bucks and 2 'free' oils...sounds like a steal, right!? (wink) ...we ask about warranties, and the guy says Tsunami comes with a lifetime warranty. Sounds good, let's just get out of here and start vaping! We choose our oils and go to pay.

This is when I shoulda known I screwed up. He and his coworkers stood around chatting before ringing up the vape, eventually ringing it up, and he stood there silently while I counted my money and responded to a statement made by my partner...I give him the money, he slowly counts it out and puts the twenty dollar bills up to the light, and completes the transaction...and then goes into overdrive with his good salesman routine. He takes everything out of the bag he put it in and is like, 'Oh, let me check all these. I like to test products before I sell them to make sure you don't take home a broken item.' At the time, I thought that was great. He 'showed' us that the items worked, and off we went.

The first few hours were fine. We vaped, it was nice and clean, we coughed a few times because we weren't used to the pure nicotine...lol

Then the issues started. Mine started gurgling, popping, and crackling. It wasn't really affecting anything, and nothing was exploding. We put it off as a 'tomorrow' issue. Bedtime rolls around and my partner goes to put his on the charger...turns out there's a pool of oil hiding between the tank and the battery. Yay! We clean it up, dry it, charge it.

The next day, it takes him hours to get the battery working again, and mine starts volcanoing oil from the mouth piece every other time I push the button. I mean, at least the menthol tastes good.

So, obviously, 4 issues within 24 hours prompts us to want to return the item. We check out the smoke shop's website and don't see a return policy stated. So we call them, and are pretty much cut off with them saying that they don't do refunds, returns, or exchanges, all sales are final, all problems are consumer caused, and our warranty is there for a reason.

Woah, woah, woah... I don't want an exchange, I want a refund and to move to a different product. Two vapes with repeated problems within the first 24 hours...clearly that's a brand problem. Nope, Up In Smoke decided it didn't want to deal with the paperwork regarding their insane markups and to do return and defect paperwork themselves.

So I call Tsunami... No refunds, I pay shipping, I'll get a new product shipped back *eventually*...

Arg!

In all the research and junk I did on vapes, not a single time did anyone mention to be wary of physical store policies!


I guess I'm happy that we didn't burn all our smokes and dance naked around the bonfire of freedom when we bought the vapes, so we have something to fall back on while we wait for the new Tsunamis... But at the same time, I'm really considering taking the new ones they send us and just selling it on eBay instead of using it...


With all of that said, I have a few questions...

What was your first vape, what was your experience with purchasing it, and where did you go from there?

What is your favorite online or physical store(s) to buy vapes and vape accessories, and why?

And lastly, just for fun, if you could build/buy the perfect vape, what would it be/what parts would you use? (excluding 3D printer stuff cause thems cheaters)


 

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Howdy and Welcome!!

Sorry it was bad for you, the "oil" is "juice" and it was probably a Head Shop that carried vape stuff, and sorry they ripped you off. The B&M's (brick and mortar's have rent and labor so the mark up is higher than ordering it)

I started with a Nemesis and a Russian 91% rebuildable because the guy at the vape store a friend sent us to, that's what he set everyone up with, it's NOT recommended, I am lucky I didn't blow my hands off or worse. I didn't like fiddling with the coils and they suck an amazing amount of juice, so it's on loan with the moochy son in law until I want it back. *lol*

We (quit with my guy Ed) got a bunch of eGo kits and some Evods vv with little Aspire's on them and I still use those for "tasters" or to give to friends when they quit (we've had a lot of those) and still love good ole Suicide Bunny's Mother's Milk (starter ejuice) We've had tons of others though, go to a tasting bar in a B&M and see what flavors you like.

now I use an Innokin MVP 2.0(in car or house) with a Kanger Mega or V2, and I pop the V2 on a Spinner 1600mah vv for on the go.

Online, I go to ebay and find the best and lowest and Fasttech (about to get my first order in so we'll see) and only got burned once with a fake spinner.

And lastly, just for fun, if you could build/buy the perfect vape, what would it be/what parts would you use? (excluding 3D printer stuff cause thems cheaters)
I don't know yet, part of this madness is not only doing the naked in the moonlight bonfire of freedom (that was too funny btw) but progressing in taste, flavors and experience. But I can say at this phase in my life the "fiddle factor" is big, I have enough to do, I don't like "high maintenance" so a self filling, self cleaning, self coil building/swapper that atomizes that delish juice to it's peak of when it was picked off whatever it grew on or oven it came out of. *lol*
 
I feel the urge to reply to everyone. I wasn't able to keep up with the thread as I made it and then was off in travel land...

Grandymarsh:

I did go to this site first, which is where the 'overwhelmed and just wanted to try my first vape' line of thought came in.

I've seen a lot of suggestions for MVP and Kanger products, that's something I've been considering buying as my second vape, especially now that I have a better idea of what the junk people are saying about vapes since I've actually had one. lol

Keonee:

I looked on Google, I noticed people saying the employees weren't very knowledgable, which I stated in my OP.

Auntie Mame:

Yeah, I've seen the long and muddled list of shops, brands, and such. However, I'm an 'in-person' type of person, and wanted to touch and see them.

Pwheeler, Newportlocal, kinggirl, Marc411, JoppaRoadCruiser,V1k1ng1001, xklipx, ProjektMayhem, MJCSD, K31Scout, Jaime Bates, Ultra-X:

Thanks for your replies/support! I'll add that/those to the list of stuff/stores to look into. :D

Epiphanyx99:

Absolutely, but I don't mind hanging between cigs and vapes while I'm in the discovery process. Haha. Has your experience with eBay been mostly good? I was somewhat wary of even touching eBay for anything vape related for fear of knockoffs, damaged stuff, shady practices (even with reputable-looking sellers). Even though I know how to work the eBay system, it's a lot of work I'd like to avoid. lol

DetraMental:

Wow, that's quite a list. Do you use 4 vapes daily, or are they for specific oils/uses/etc? Also, thanks for giving some reasons with your shop suggestions.

Zach CC:

Yeah, the Tsunami's barely had a day in them, and only worked at 51%+ battery life. Under that and it was air and burnt taste, which made NO sense to me...

James Wilson:

Good to know I'm not alone! Can't wait until I can get rid of all these ash trays, headaches, and cotton mouth. That 24 hours of vaping spoiled me. Haha.

Viking12344:

I did the same thing years ago...not from a kiosk, though. But they were TERRIBLE and totally turned me off to the 'e-cig fad', I didn't even know there was a whole world about to explode with this vaping thing.

FastRope71:

Do you have the jitters, though? Just in my 24 hours of vaping I constantly felt like something was off because I wasn't going outside for a cigarette. Haha.

HecticEnergy:

MVP seems to be the most reccommended in this small sample size of posters, and now that you've pointed out variable voltage I think I'm sold. The same with the Nautilus. The itaste is also mentioned a lot, and I think that'd be a good low-profle option. Thanks for trying to steer clear of the super advanced stuff. I like knowing what's out there, but at the same time, ya know...my brain is dying. Haha.

GinnyTx:

My thoughts exactly! Wouldn't that be awesome... Then again, you'd probably be carrying around a 10 lb mini-factory attached to a mouthpeice in order to get that sort of automated process on the go. Haha.



Whew, that's everyone, I think. Thanks everyone! I've got a nice list of 20 research topics based on your feedback, and will hopefully end this week with a successful order and be back to vaping next week.

Also, am I right in assuming the term 'spinner' relates to the cylindrical battery housings that 'spin' onto the tanks? I read the lingo sticky, but I don't think that was on there.
 

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I feel the urge to reply to everyone. I wasn't able to keep up with the thread as I made it and then was off in travel land...

Grandymarsh:

I did go to this site first, which is where the 'overwhelmed and just wanted to try my first vape' line of thought came in.

I've seen a lot of suggestions for MVP and Kanger products, that's something I've been considering buying as my second vape, especially now that I have a better idea of what the junk people are saying about vapes since I've actually had one. lol

Keonee:

I looked on Google, I noticed people saying the employees weren't very knowledgable, which I stated in my OP.

Auntie Mame:

Yeah, I've seen the long and muddled list of shops, brands, and such. However, I'm an 'in-person' type of person, and wanted to touch and see them.

Pwheeler, Newportlocal, kinggirl, Marc411, JoppaRoadCruiser,V1k1ng1001, xklipx, ProjektMayhem, MJCSD, K31Scout, Jaime Bates, Ultra-X:

Thanks for your replies/support! I'll add that/those to the list of stuff/stores to look into. :D

Epiphanyx99:

Absolutely, but I don't mind hanging between cigs and vapes while I'm in the discovery process. Haha. Has your experience with eBay been mostly good? I was somewhat wary of even touching eBay for anything vape related for fear of knockoffs, damaged stuff, shady practices (even with reputable-looking sellers). Even though I know how to work the eBay system, it's a lot of work I'd like to avoid. lol

DetraMental:

Wow, that's quite a list. Do you use 4 vapes daily, or are they for specific oils/uses/etc? Also, thanks for giving some reasons with your shop suggestions.

Zach CC:

Yeah, the Tsunami's barely had a day in them, and only worked at 51%+ battery life. Under that and it was air and burnt taste, which made NO sense to me...

James Wilson:

Good to know I'm not alone! Can't wait until I can get rid of all these ash trays, headaches, and cotton mouth. That 24 hours of vaping spoiled me. Haha.

Viking12344:

I did the same thing years ago...not from a kiosk, though. But they were TERRIBLE and totally turned me off to the 'e-cig fad', I didn't even know there was a whole world about to explode with this vaping thing.

FastRope71:

Do you have the jitters, though? Just in my 24 hours of vaping I constantly felt like something was off because I wasn't going outside for a cigarette. Haha.

HecticEnergy:

MVP seems to be the most reccommended in this small sample size of posters, and now that you've pointed out variable voltage I think I'm sold. The same with the Nautilus. The itaste is also mentioned a lot, and I think that'd be a good low-profle option. Thanks for trying to steer clear of the super advanced stuff. I like knowing what's out there, but at the same time, ya know...my brain is dying. Haha.

GinnyTx:

My thoughts exactly! Wouldn't that be awesome... Then again, you'd probably be carrying around a 10 lb mini-factory attached to a mouthpeice in order to get that sort of automated process on the go. Haha.



Whew, that's everyone, I think. Thanks everyone! I've got a nice list of 20 research topics based on your feedback, and will hopefully end this week with a successful order and be back to vaping next week.

Also, am I right in assuming the term 'spinner' relates to the cylindrical battery housings that 'spin' onto the tanks? I read the lingo sticky, but I don't think that was on there.
Spinner relates to how you change the voltage on the device you spin(turn) a small wheel on top to adjust your voltage.

That being said I can not say enough good things about the mvp 2.0 there is even an owners group on here for anytime you have issues or need a question answered very nice people.

Also my personal reccomendation would be either the nautilus mini or kanger tank (just make sure to get the airflow control device with it.
Having control over the airflow built in on the nautilus will help you dial in your vape that much better.

I own an mvp2 (backup now) as well as a nautilus if you have any questions before during and after purchase feel free to pm me any time I'm alway up to help
 
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I went through a similar ordeal as well. Though my first setup lasted a bit longer. I probably threw away an easy 250$ learning the do's and dont's. My first set up used a lamb mod from a vape shop in San Diego. I don't know who makes them, but it was 80$ and very cheaply made. I didn't know any better though and they sure got their.money out of me. Long story short I went through 3 of them...they actually had some kind of return policy though thank god. My first atomizer was a phoenix stainless steel. I had some good friends who did most of the experimenting prior to so I stayed away from the egos and saturns. It was 30$ so not bad...but it had plastic around the posts which is a huge no no. I didn't know that though and probably inhaled a lot of plastic fumes. I learned fairly quickly to build ss (stairs steel) wicks from there and off I went. I've come a long way and since learned a few things. 1 cheaper in the vaping world almost always isn't better. I feel that going the extra.bit can save you lots of money in the long run. Just look at most builds and they average 2 to 3 hundred dollars. 2 learns to build a.setup you like. Whether it's a tank or a dropper learning to build what you prefer is key to an enjoyable time. I used youtube to figure out how to do that, but I'm sure that.people here can be an even bigger help. And lastly 3 network! This sounds kinda funny but having a network of people to ask is a great way to learn even more about vaping. I'm still learning and this is just my opinion that I've garnered from my own experience with e cigs. Best of luck and I hope.it becomes more enjoyable as time goes on.
 

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Sorry to hear about your experience. I've been vaping for 3 weeks and so far the only problems I've had is with the juices. Some have the amount of flavor and I like and others taste bland with very little flavoring. As for the my set-up, I ordered my first ecig from VaporFi. A basic set-up that got me started. I've recently ordered a Vision Spinner 2 with a Kanger AeroTank 2 from The Vapor Station here on ECF. I wish I would of done the research and gotten the Spinner 2 first. But I rushed into the vaping since I was out of analogs and really wanted to quit. Not that I had an experience like yours, but I would of been a lot happier with starting out on the Spinner 2 instead of rushing in to buy an ecig. There's some great advice here and everyone is very friendly. Just sitting around reading everything here has helped me tremendously. Good luck on your vaping and I'm sure you'll find all the help you need here.
 
First setup was an Aspire Nautilus on a vision spinner (biggest battery my b&m had at the time). Worked great for first few weeks then had issues with the wicks. Bought a couple mini protanks while the nautilus sat on my desk, they worked grand.

Then I got into mods. The rest of the story is downhill from there. Bank account is downhill too.

As far as stores go, I was lucky as I asked my boss where he got all his gear and he pointed me to my first and still favorite b&m store. I have visited a few others though none compare to this particular one. Guess I just got lucky.
 

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Hello and welcome!

To answer your questions, I started with a look alike regular cig (Brand: Wanna Vape), it was good but the battery wasnt enough for the whole day, so I decided to buy a second Wanna Vape started kit, all nice till I visited vaping forums and discovered it was for the same money even possible to buy high-end stuff bc for the 2 started kits I paid 50 euro, some 65 dollar, so here my fundamentally research started.
I bought an authentic Taifun GS from SmokderStore in Germany, authentic costs way more ofc, but you can buy a clone to Fasttech for 21 dollar, now thats 44 dollar left for a mod device!

So I ended up with rebuild stuff and bought for to try a passthrough "battery" from Fasttech for 6 dollar and it works and vapes amazingly good.

The glass tanks I prefer the most, so I decided to buy a Phiniac tank with a Diver V2, I had some issues with the Diver V2 in beginning bc I was inexperienced but all those issues I had are solved.

Where I buy my vaping stuff:
Rebuild atomizers or tank I buy to the manufacturer, this bc I want to be sure its authentic, they also have the most know-how about the product :)
My silica wick, wires or a flush cutter and stuff like this I buy to Fasttech.
All my DIY e-juice flavors comes from Inawera.

Recently I bought a Hana Modz V3 mini and all with this I'am happy enough, I really dont need more and I'am glad I did pass all the steps between a starter kit to high-end, its a lot information in beginning but it looks and sounds much more then it really is.

My perfect vape... is written here above.

Gosh its snowing here, can you believe that?! :laugh:
 

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I'm sorry about your experience. It is a challenge to go to a b & m store after seeing prices online.

I started with a store-branded ego 1000mah passthrough with a vivi-nova tank. No bottom coils, nothing like that. When I went to the "name brand" store, that is pretty much all there was. It lasted me over 6 mos. before I was even interested in anything else. At the time January 2013, that kit cost over $60.

I "moved up" to an evod starter kit, with 2 batteries because I wanted something smaller and a little more stylish. This kit was $30 on ebay. Since then I have stopped buying kits and moved on to individual pieces, from all sorts of places.

I think a basic battery with a simple replaceable coil tank is the easiest way to start. It will give you a nice vape, no HUGE clouds, but enough vapor to feel like you are actually inhaling and exhaling something. You can even blow smoke rings! Then if you feel the need, you can move up to the other stuff.

I started with another woman at work. She still goes to the same name brand store, has had a total of 3 batteries in over a year and a half, and is on her second tank. You don't have to go to extremes if you are happy with your vaping experience.


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Hi I'm John from the UK,

I've been vapeing a week yesterday. I live in London, (not many vape shops surprisingly?). I was visiting my daughter in Cardiff Wales and found a bricks and mortar shop; Cigalicious in the shopping centre.

The guy behind the counter, (Adam) was absolutely fantastic he spent at least 15 - 20 minutes with me going through the whole process, the kit the cost etc. He didn't break off when other customers came in and even put a fresh drip tip on his mod and let me have a few pulls; much coughing and spluttering at that point :) even though I was a 30 a day strong tobacco smoker.

He didn't moan when I left the shop saying I needed to give it some thought. I had a coffee and returned to purchase a kit with 2 x Vision spinners, 2 clearomisers, (I think? They are iClear 16Ds with replaceable atomisers; small wicks, not going up into the tube itself), mains / usb charger, good quality case and a bottle of 24mg strong tobacco flavour liquid.

Now, I paid £63.00 for this, which is quite expensive but the service and information Adam gave was worth double this! You had to be there to experience how helpful he was and no hard selling.

I charged my batteries that night and as luck would have it finished a pack of tobacco that night. So I started vapeing the next morning and haven't had a cigarette since. :) I love it. When I got home from Cardiff I did more research of my own, so many forums sites you tube etc. It was obvious I was going to need some spare atomisers, instead I used some discount codes and bought a Nautilus Mini with 5 spare atomisers (+ the two you get with the kit itself); marvellous, :) works really well on my spinners set to about 3.7v. The clearomisers were great by the way and I still use them, and will be using them to try new flavours etc at the moment.

If you're around Cardiff I can't recommend Cigalicious highly enough. My only problem is at present, is they don't seem to hold a big range so I will / have used other suppliers. It made me feel a bit guilty after the service Adam gave me. :)

Mail order wise, (Limited experience so far of course, only been vapeing a week, feels like forever), Vapeescape have giving me great service with my Nautilus Mini and a few e-juice flavours. I've just ordered from Digby's Juices, only last night, :) so can't give honest feedback yet; I have high hopes though after all the research I've done. Got to try that Mum's Custard!!! :)

I hope the bad experience doesn't put the op off persevering as I'm finding this a wonderful experience and haven't even thought about real cigs for over a week.

Sorry for the long post but I felt an introduction was in order and the positive newbie experiences I've had recently might be helpful? Now onto researching mods. :)

Best regards,
John.
 

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Hi Knirps,

This is my first post here but maybe my experience can help. I'm a Truck Driver and smoker for about 20+ years, about 1.5 packs a day on average. Starting with overpriced e-cigs bought at truck stops and travel plazas (the absolute worst place to buy just about anything but coffee) spending around $500 or more on multitudes of "kits" and various brands - most that no longer exist after the big company shakeout.

My last e-cig kit was a chincy pack of Blu's with the starter kit and charger pack. As with most of these there are usually no return policies. Well, this last kit was worthless and the included battery was broken and would not work at all $40 purchase price. One day bumped into a fellow driver quite experience with vaping and let me in on a few pointers (after my rant about how "worthless" e-cigs are).

He explained, as with most heavy long time smokers, lung function is so diminished that trying to drag on most mass market e-cigs is usually an exercise in futility. These have no flavor to begin with, and very little Nic percentage - may as well just take deep breaths in the drivers lounge as the contact "high" would be much better.
He happened to have one of those big (generic) 900 batteries as an extra amongst his massive collection of vaping gear, and one of those (I guess common) thimble sized plastic tanks- passed them to me out of generosity and said to give it a try. Filling the tank with some Menthol oil, and trying out and floored by the difference.

Even those little cheap Blu refills (which fit the battery shockingly) seemed to perform better with the big battery. I had no idea how universal most of this gear is and just though the usual problem of proprietary nonsense would keep me from blowing even more money on better gear. After that started with a pen type kit (Voodoo I believe) had a cute little skull emblem on the body, and works great $20 for one of those (I'm sure still overpriced). Any future buys will be online, but after several hundred dollars in, finally finding a adequate cigarette replacement is still worth it.

Never expected to save money this way, quitting smoking in general was worth it to me to pay more even, but now after gaining some knowledge should be a much cheaper route. (especially after being stuck in a state like NY and spending $25 or more on a couple packs).

Best!
 

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HecticEnergy:

MVP seems to be the most reccommended in this small sample size of posters, and now that you've pointed out variable voltage I think I'm sold. The same with the Nautilus. The itaste is also mentioned a lot, and I think that'd be a good low-profle option. Thanks for trying to steer clear of the super advanced stuff. I like knowing what's out there, but at the same time, ya know...my brain is dying. Haha.


Also, am I right in assuming the term 'spinner' relates to the cylindrical battery housings that 'spin' onto the tanks? I read the lingo sticky, but I don't think that was on there.

The MVP's full name is "Innokin Itaste MVP 2.0". Itaste is just a series of products that Innokin makes. There is a variety of Itaste's out there, but I would stick with the MVP. low cost, low learning curve. here is a review of the product you might like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B46UmqjI4D4

The term spinner is just like the term MVP. It is just a name of the actual product. Itaste-MVP .... Vision-Spinner. On the bottom of the "spinner" is dial that adjusts the wattage of the device. Its closest competition would be the Ego-Twist.

The MVP is going to be a little more $ but its has a bigger battery, more VV/VW settings (vape shop or ECF forums will help you get that setup), and my favorite part of the device - the ability to charge other devices! I dont know if anyone has mentioned it but it has a USB port on the bottom so you could charge a freaking laptop of it among other devices...LOVE IT
 
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Ouch. Sounds like a rough experience. Glad it hasn't thrown you off vaping tho :) I got my first set up a month ago. It was an iPow vv battery and a Kangerteck mini pro tank 2. It was purchased at a shop locally. I loved it. I then upgraded to a vamo v5 with a Kanger aerotank. Needed more vapor production. Def start out with a variable voltage instead of just a standard battery tho. Helps you to get more out of your vaping experience. My next set up will probably be a sigelei 30w with a aerotank mega, or an aspire nautilus if I'm feeling frisky and wanna try something new
 
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