So...uhm... looking for ACTUAL advice here....

[bfrie]

if you dont use dripping atomizers, go for the provari. as far as i can tell the only use of a reo is for dripping attys. anything else, get the provari.

 

[Fenris4024]

The REOs are bottom-fed dripping machines, featuring one-handed operation (i.e. when driving) using disposable cartos or attys, or most commonly, rebuildable drip atomizers, particularly the excellent Reomizer 2 (RM2). The mechanical REO Grand is about the height and depth of a pack of standard length filter cigarettes, but not nearly as wide. Think business card sized. The REO Grand VV is a bit taller, shares the mechanical Grand's 6 ml bottle, but uses stacked 18350s instead of the mechanical's 18650, in order to achieve higher voltage. It would make no sense to put a tank on one since the 6 ml typically lasts through a 16 hour day. The battery configuration pretty much matches the bottle capacity. The REO Mini 2.1 is about the same width and depth as a Grand, but shorter, using an 18490 and 3 ml bottle for about an 8-hour work day. The Mini is smaller than all the above, using a 3 ml bottle, but only a 14500 battery.

Many non-technical newbies, both young and elderly, successfully and safely use the mechanical REO Grand as a first mod. REO specifies use of AW IMR batteries (button top--flat tops can cause problems). The REOs have a battery spring that collapses in the event of an atomizer short, disconnecting one battery end from its terminal. The Grand size (or VV) is a good first REO (typically, you'll want more than one)--they are smaller than you'd think.

Metal REOs are precision milled from a single block of aluminum and are extremely rugged without being heavy. Customer service from REO's owner (Robert Eugene O'Neil) is beyond excellent, and, besides the excellence in design and construction, one of the reasons REO owners (Reonauts) are so loyal (typically pretty laid back, without being fierce).

The Reomizer 2 (RM2) is the epitome of rebuildable drip atomizers. One "squonks" (squeezes) the bottle to wet the wick in it and the excess juice drains back into the bottle. The base is ceramic, minimizing short potential, and the posts are widely spaced (rather than one in the middle) and drilled for easy coil installation. Easily wound micro coils have become the choice of most RM2 users, along with wick made from cotton balls for best taste.

For more information, visit the Reos Mods sub-forum.

Thanks for all the great information Nico, I've been trying to find the sizes for the REOs it seems like forever, and haven't really been able to. (They might want to put that information up on the REOmods website someday, but I'd rather see more REOS than an updated website, tbh )

I do enjoy the hobby side of the "habit", so I do rebuilds sometimes "because I can", and I'm starting to learn more about the actual workings of mech mods a little here and there. I've been using the micro coils in my RBAs (with cotton or Nextel) for maybe two months now... I blame SuperXDrifter.

You mention the hot spring collapsing, so if I was to go with a REO, I'd probably get a few of those extra, huh? How's the VV grand in terms of short protection?

The Mini would seem to offer more versatility in that fasion. That's one of the reasons I went with a Mini for my second Provari. However, the regular size Provari just "feels right" as far as button placement and the fit of a man's hand. It is the most comfortable Provari to hold and use for use at home, for me. The Mini's shorter tube length puts it button placement in a less natural position. Minor point though, as I enjoy both equally well for different situations. It depends upon how "picky" you are going to be.

Well, in regards to the button position, a VAMO in short mode puts the button right at about the middle of the mod, so I've made do so far

What's the average battery life of a 18350 in a mini, out of curiosity? I really only chain vape at home, but when I'm out and about, I'm a bit more reserved on how much I vape, if that helps.

You sound like you vape like I do. At home on the weekends I could be considered a chain vapor, but during the week work limits how frequently I can vape.

I get the advertised time of use with my AW IMRs as the mAh ratings suggest; but only 50-75% of that using an RBA:

18350 = 7 hours
18490 = 11 hours
18650 - 20 hours

Sure, I'd expect there to be less battery life with an RBA, I'm using said VAMO this morning/ afternoon in long mode with an RBA, and have noticed it dropping voltage a bit faster than it would with one of my cartotanks. (RBA is a 2.2 ohm build if that makes much of a difference)

Good to know that the Provari isn't "chugging" more battery juice than it needs though...

Once again, thanks for all the great info guys!

 

[Fenris4024]

if you dont use dripping atomizers, go for the provari. as far as i can tell the only use of a reo is for dripping attys. anything else, get the provari.

And that's part of my dilemma... I use everything from EVODs, to cartotanks to drippers. (I realize the EVODs will get much less use once I get either device...)

 

[volume control]

If you already drip etc and can wrap coils id go with the REO. You could use a tank on it, but you may as well just use a regular carto, and give it a sqounk now and then to keep it loaded. You dont really have to worry about overfeeding either as excess tends to go back into the bottle. The Provari is very nice, so i think either way you will be happy.

 

[volume control]

I know you mention only the Reo and Provari but i wanted to throw out there that if you like carto tanks and rebuildables a regular old mech is also pretty awesome. Mine is a cheapy but im loving my ibtanked with boge lr on it so much my other devices may get thrown up on the classies...Plus it looks pretty sleek. I obviously wouldnt suggest a cheapy if youre looking for something nice, but you could get a nice mech =)

 

[Uma]

I have both the Reo Grand (2 actually) plus a Mini Provati and the quality and customer service with both are outstanding.
Everybody needs a quality mechanical mod to last them through the end of days as we know it & the Reo mechanical mods deliver. Pick up extra springs, & you'll be set for life.
Sample size flavors from Pink Spot Vapots fit right in the Grand btw. Eazy peazy.

Everyone also needs the safest, top quality electronic mod they can find too. The Provari fits the bill. Customer Service right here in usa

You can't go wrong with either one. In fact i recommend and have both. You are on the right path.


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[bfrie]

And that's part of my dilemma... I use everything from EVODs, to cartotanks to drippers. (I realize the EVODs will get much less use once I get either device...)

evods become irrelevant once you get a protank

now even after that statement i just made, i still want a reo JUST for dripping. i have a mech for each atty, and a provari for cartos/protanks, so clearly im a fan of singular use

 

[Mike Sheda]

evods become irrelevant once you get a protank

now even after that statement i just made, i still want a reo JUST for dripping. i have a mech for each atty, and a provari for cartos/protanks, so clearly im a fan of singular use

I use EVODs for the flavors I want to have a little of from time to time, but mostly use my PTs for the stuff I really like.

 

[NicoHolic]

I have yet to collapse a spring (which the VV also uses), but I do have a spare in addition to the one in my rebuild kit. I'm not the most coordinated guy in the world, so the possibility of a short exists when I'm doing the fire to heat then squeeze with hemostats micro coil dance. I should mention one of our older lady reonauts just did her first total rebuild of a well-used REO successfully, following others like her who've gone before. My main attraction to the mechanical metal REO Grand is it's dead simple in every way--static and EMP-proof, washed in the kitchen sink.

I too blame SuperXDrifter, not only for my micro coils (and all the resistance wire I've bought), but he made that up selling me on the inexpensive, flavorful cotton wicks. FWIW, he's selling off his other delivery devices and now using nothing but RM2s.

I should mention I'm getting these kinds of juice/battery hours even out of a 0.5Ω coil. Hitting that much vapor, I hit less often. My daily driver runs a 0.7 - 0.8Ω micro coil.

I have two Grands with four RM2s, including one dedicated to micro coil experiments and one for backup. I love these. They make my ProTanks seem like ultra-light cigarettes. Yuk! Frankly, after dripping, I don't WANT anything less on my mod, and I've no desire for any other mod.

 

[bfrie]

I use EVODs for the flavors I want to have a little of from time to time, but mostly use my PTs for the stuff I really like.

i use protanks for the flavors i want to have a little of from time to time, but mostly use my other protanks for the stuff i really like

 

[Chiku]

I bought a couple Provari's and I used carto tanks with them for a few months. I started DIYing juice, and I got an Igo L to sample the juice, found out that I loved RDA's but hated having to carry a bottle around so I started to look at bottom feeders. Got my first Reo at the end of May and I love it. I've added 2 more. I use them with an RM2 and micro coils.

Either way you are going to have a great device and I'm sure you'll be happy with it. I still use my Provari with a ZAP, but it doesn't get near as much use as my Reo's.

One thing, there is no need for a carto tank with a Reo, you just feed the liquid from the bottom. Also, I don't think that a carto tank would fit into the well. The well is 14mm and the smallest IBtanked is 19mm correct?

 

[Cookster]

I'm going to add my

Not bragging, I pretty much can buy any mod I want under $200 (monthly vape budget is $300 for hubby & me). I haven't pulled the trigger on a Reo or Vmod, for one reason: no safety features. I have 2 mechs (for the apocalypse), and I either put in a Kick or a Vapesafe fuse when I use them. I had way too many batts go bad in my early days of vaping, that I just won't be comfortable without some protection. But that's me

Something to consider...

 

[SITS]

And that's part of my dilemma... I use everything from EVODs, to cartotanks to drippers. (I realize the EVODs will get much less use once I get either device...)

An evod just looks pitiful on a Provari. I wouldn't go out in the public with it. I got the regular size Provari with the extended cap and 18650 batteries. I highly recommend the Provari.

 

[NicoHolic]

I also got pretty tired of washing out ProTanks to swap juices (I use 50/50 and a lot stays behind). I DIY my own juices in 30 ml bottles and bought enough 6 ml REO bottles to have one, ready to go, for each flavor--twenty-six at current count.

 

[bfrie]

I'm going to add my

Not bragging, I pretty much can buy any mod I want under $200 (monthly vape budget is $300 for hubby & me). I haven't pulled the trigger on a Reo or Vmod, for one reason: no safety features. I have 2 mechs (for the apocalypse), and I either put in a Kick or a Vapesafe fuse when I use them. I had way too many batts go bad in my early days of vaping, that I just won't be comfortable without some protection. But that's me

Something to consider...

they have a hotspring that collapses in case of a short. that would be protection

 

[bfrie]

I also got pretty tired of washing out ProTanks to swap juices (I use 50/50 and a lot stays behind). I DIY my own juices in 30 ml bottles and bought enough 6 ml REO bottles to have one, ready to go, for each flavor--twenty-six at current count.

eww storing liquid in plastic

 

[NicoHolic]

they have a hotspring that collapses in case of a short. that would be protection

Let me expand this for her... as does your VapeSafe fuse, the hot spring disconnects one end of your battery from its terminal, ie. the battery can't touch both terminals at once and is disconnected. It is erroneous to say they have no safety features.

 

[Fenris4024]

evods become irrelevant once you get a protank

now even after that statement i just made, i still want a reo JUST for dripping. i have a mech for each atty, and a provari for cartos/protanks, so clearly im a fan of singular use

Want two more protanks? I prefer the EVODs to be honest! For some reason, the protanks just taste "metallic" to me, and I don't know why... I use plenty of metal drip tips, but the protanks always taste odd....

 

[bfrie]

Want two more protanks? I prefer the EVODs to be honest! For some reason, the protanks just taste "metallic" to me, and I don't know why... I use plenty of metal drip tips, but the protanks always taste odd....

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[Fenris4024]

I also got pretty tired of washing out ProTanks to swap juices (I use 50/50 and a lot stays behind). I DIY my own juices in 30 ml bottles and bought enough 6 ml REO bottles to have one, ready to go, for each flavor--twenty-six at current count.

I DIY a bunch too, that way I get what I want for a juice, not what some guy in an office thought sounded like a great description of a flavor.
"Tastes like fresh baked cookies"



I think someone changed the word beans to cookies on that description.

But I digress.... I think the DIY is part of why I was looking at a REO in the first place... I'm pretty sure I could rebuild one if I needed to, and while I love the flavor of a dripper... I hate having to use a bottle to drip to get that same flavor. Right now, that's why I'm mostly using the cartotanks, since to me, the flavors are 90% as good as dripping.