So when do we get 100/200/300 MG liquids? (since the absorbion rate is so low?)

[GreySaber]

I've seen people on these boards get freaked out about nicotine poisoning at the drop of a hat. I've seen old hands worry about spilling the juice on their hands. I've seen people talk about the dangers of overdose....

And now the new zealand study comes out, and shows that our E-cigs aren't even HALF as strong as a regular cigarette.

Now, I want a link to said study. I'm running on hearsay here, and my search for the study gave me a haystack of multipage threads.

But, if a 16mg or 18mg liquid, used for five minutes, produced 10% of the nicotine concentration in the blood that a regular cigarette produces, it is therefore logical that we should be using a 160 or 180mg liquid to produce the same effect as a regular cigarette.

THAT must be why we vape so much! BECUASE WE AREN'T GETTING MUCH NICOTINE! IF we got the same amount we get from a cigarette, we'd vape less! Our batteries and atmoizers would see much much less use!

Gee.... TW's 36mg liquid doesn't seem so strong anymore does it? Infact, when we look at the Kiwi's math, it seems pretty danged weak. It might produce oh.... as much as 20% the effect of a real cigarette! The new 48MG mixing liquid might produce a whole third of a real cigarette! (And people were worried it might be vaped straight!)

OK, If my logic isn't working, go ahead and wack me for it. If I'm speaking in Ignorance and overlooking a key fact... wack me for that.

But the logic does suggest it.

 

[crazyhorse]

A few hits of 36 mg buzzes me out and makes my head spin. I can't compare that with a cigarette because I haven' smoked one in 13 years.

I do not worry about getting liquid on my hands or in my mouth, however. In fact, I just drained an atomizer into a vial and it missed leaving a nickel-sized puddle on the coffee table. Care to take a guess where that went? Mmmm, finger licking good!

 

[WonderfulMe]

I still smoke a pack a day, but vape when I am with my daughter. I vape medium strength (18 mg) and sometimes I get a headache because I use it like a pacifier, so I am not looking for anything stronger.

My guess is that if they did make stronger liquid, shortly after someone's dog, or worse their child, would end up sick or dead after getting hold of a cart and e-cigs in the US and other places would be outlawed instantly.

 

[GreySaber]

Eh, Eventually some ..... is going to OD drinking E-liquid. Hell, some guy was on TV recently for doing himself in trying to get drunk off gasoline.

Drinking it didn't kill him. It was when he threw up on his campfire.

Sometimes kids eat cigarettes. Sometimes they drink drano.

Yeah, we'll need to be ready with lawyers when it happens, (and I say WHEN, not IF.)

But our E-cigs should be equal power to regular cigs. So when do we get the super strong juice?

I still smoke a pack a day, but vape when I am with my daughter. I vape medium strength (18 mg) and sometimes I get a headache because I use it like a pacifier, so I am not looking for anything stronger.

My guess is that if they did make stronger liquid, shortly after someone's dog, or worse their child, would end up sick or dead after getting hold of a cart and e-cigs in the US and other places would be outlawed instantly.

 

[CardinalWinds]

It's interesting for the actual nicotine concentrations, but I didn't need a study to tell me I get but a small fraction of the nicotine from an e-cig drag as I do from an analog. If I smoked as much as I vaped I'd be sick as a dog. I vape 24mg.

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

 

[jimik]

TW's 18mg kicks my .... I get a strong buzz after a few draws on my 510.

There must be a difference in absorption of eliquid between different people. Before I started vaping a week ago, I was smoking anywhere from two to three packs of Newport full flavored and never got a nic buzz to the extent that just a few draws off of my PV gives me.

 

[kinabaloo]

There are reason to think that the nic buzz will be faster with PG and slower with VG.

 

[googled]

Someone else pointed out that there may be other chemicals in tobacco that drown out the 'hit' you get from pure nicotine, it could also be that vapers are in effect ex-smokers and every time they get close to a hit from a cigarette they get a buzz.

 

[DaBrat]

It's interesting for the actual nicotine concentrations, but I didn't need a study to tell me I get but a small fraction of the nicotine from an e-cig drag as I do from an analog. If I smoked as much as I vaped I'd be sick as a dog. I vape 24mg.

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

I find the whole thread insteresting I got a buzz (more headachy than anything) after chain vaping 24mg for like 4 hours...lol. Was a two pack a day Newport/Marlboro Methol Smooth 100 smoker. I think the difference is that the nic in an ecig doesn't reach max plasma levels as quickly as an analog.

That being said, going back to try an analog I almost got violently sick immediately.

 

[maryjo]

There are reason to think that the nic buzz will be faster with PG and slower with VG.

Really? Will you still get the same absorbtion?

 

[openthewell]

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

I can honestly say I haven't. I mainly vape 24mg, sometimes 18mg if thats what I have next to me. I've never, not even when I first started, or early in the morning, got a 'nic buzz' or a 'head change' from vaping like I'd get with my Camels. I was a pack a day smoker, and mainly smoked Camel Lights, so I gotta imagine my nicotine tolerance isn't so high that I'm immune to the stuff.

 

[Mac]

I am vaping 4mg and 6mg carts all day and after 6 mo's still never had a withdrawl from my 10 year marlboro habit...

 

[Tori]

It's interesting for the actual nicotine concentrations, but I didn't need a study to tell me I get but a small fraction of the nicotine from an e-cig drag as I do from an analog. If I smoked as much as I vaped I'd be sick as a dog. I vape 24mg.

Is there anyone on here who smoked at least a pack a day that has gotten a buzz of an e-cig after switching?

Never gotten a buzz but I never got one from analogs either. I'm vaping 18mg and do notice headaches if I over do it and if I don't vape often enough I get the nic fit... I highly doubt we are only getting 10% or we'd be in serious withdrawal

 

[Generic]

I smoked Drum rollies for years. 36 mg juice BARELY lights my fire.

Bring on the 100-200mg juice!

I have a feeling it won't be long before I'm extracting nic from patches, gum, and Redman lol!

If you're worried about a couple drops of juice on your fingers perhaps you should take up knitting or something equally lame :-| I mean seriously- juice on your fingers buzzes you up? Me thinks the power of suggestion is stronger than we think, no? Sheesh...

-Generic

 

[SantanzChild]

36mg juice barley keeps me sane.

 

[dahenny]

I'm glad this topic is being discussed. I'm having a hard time keeping off of the analogs. Pushing 50 years old and burning 2 packs a day full flavor marlboro. I've been smoking for 37 years. Never had a health issue, or even a smokers cough.

I just can't get any real satisfaction from 36mg liquid. My wife, OTOH, hasn't had an analog in 8 weeks. She loves the 901. I bought the AdapteveR thinking that it would give me a better fix, but not so.

I'm getting ready to order some 48mg liquid to see if will supply the nic level that I feel I need to satisfy my cravings.

 

[Porphy]

There are 48 mg juices on the market as well as up to 72mg as I've heard from suppliers. It's the process of getting it that is tough. As far as I know 36mg is easily attainable and for the high dose stuff (which they usually cut down anyway) you have to jump through some loop holes or wait an insane amount of time to receive.

Personally, I'm on 36-48mg juice and it does the trick. Anything less and I get withdrawals.

 

[dahenny]

MyFreedomSmokes.com, right here in NC has 48mg, which is where I'll order from. Hopefully good results. :fingers crossed:

 

[gashin]

100mg? Damn that would be an insane throat hit!

 

[Stormynights]

I never got a buzz with even 36 mg. I can be satisfied with much lower with 6 volts. You have to have the right atty to do 6 volts. I like the Be112.