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Unless there was some sort of disclaimer or agreement during sign up or released as new update that needs agreement by user, that states that site owner owns rights to speech submitted or of some sort.
Thinking on it in a different stand point, It can be more of a courtesy for the owner to actually remove the requested posts. Because we do have editing permissions. Lol but going back to our standpoint. Since the request was made for the reasons of threatening one's life here on the forum....Just going to stop right here, there are points that are open to be proven but it can swing either way.
In my country it is not legally possible to even sell your your copyright. When the publisher publishes a book I translated (translation (c) is mine, original text (c) is the English author´s), I can only sell them *permission to print* it in certain amount of copies. If they exceed the amount, usually for 2-nd edition, they give me new contract and pay again, a bit less because it means no additional work for me so I am happy to sell cheaper. The same goes for the English author of the original. This used to be not the case, but changed when our legislation got aligned with international treaties, so I believe this situation is sort of similar all over civilized world. Ever looked who is credited with the co-authorship of some of the newer Terry Pratchett´s books? His daughter or wife I believe. That means that after his death the copyright remains in the family. I do not think she actually co-wrote the books.
There are also ways of avoiding this (buying permission to print 10 billion copies or so), but almost no publishers use them and those who tried quickly changed their contracts when I objected this was against the spirit of the law, so I think they are rather shaky and would not withstand real opposition if somebody attacked them.
That's interesting, Frankie. My knowledge of copyright could well be out of date!
it came up on facebook or the like recently.. they did change the rules saying they own what was written.. there were objections they went back to the old ones..
but the fact i was forced into making this request should make a point.. i wanted to be banned and all traces of me removed..
the ban was to stop me coming back cos i am too weak simply to read but not make the odd post.. he he
without the past removal i had to retain the right to post in self defense.. so i declined the offered ban..
again the fact i try not to post should tell its own tale..
some kind of balance has to be found between the ability of made up people to attack "real" people for fun does have to be arrived at tho..
this is one of the reasons i think sam and pipeman need some help.. it has to come down to them keeping things in line.. or them and some help... he he
trog
ps.. i even challenged the attackers to put up a poll..
trog is a trol and the place would be better without him.. tick box
trog is a good guy and an asset to the forum.. tick box
the buggers didnt take it up thow... he he he
but the fact i was forced into making this request should make a point.. i wanted to be banned and all traces of me removed..
the ban was to stop me coming back cos i am too weak simply to read but not make the odd post.. he he
without the past removal i had to retain the right to post in self defense.. so i declined the offered ban..
again the fact i try not to post should tell its own tale..
some kind of balance has to be found between the ability of made up people to attack "real" people for fun does have to be arrived at tho..
this is one of the reasons i think sam and pipeman need some help.. it has to come down to them keeping things in line.. or them and some help... he he
trog
ps.. i even challenged the attackers to put up a poll..
trog is a trol and the place would be better without him.. tick box
trog is a good guy and an asset to the forum.. tick box
the buggers didnt take it up thow... he he he
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A real person who is here to make money off us deserves to be held to a much higher standard than an anonymous avatar. I believe our banned anonymous avatar believed that our real person was not being held accountable...
There was another member who left the forum because he was being harrassed (I forget the reason)
But I've seen him posting recently, his self imposed exile only lasted a month, guess it's just too hard to stay away
Troggs in a different boat though
His name gets dropped constantly, mostly in the negative,
The mob is out to get him no matter if he's here posting or not,
It's a loose loose situation for him
I completely see his point that he and his product need to be protected from liable defamatory statements
No. I do not think ANY product should be protected from any statements. The protection should only cover people. Otherwise this would get insane.
His product is a grossly overpriced flashlight from Dealextreme.com . It deserves to be ridiculed. That does not mean any attacks against the person are permissable.
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I think anyone ridiculing his "overpriced flashlight from Dealextreme.com" is just upset that he thought of it and they didn't. I think it's performance speaks for itself, and he found a niche market that is doing well. Some people obviously think it's worth it. If you don't fine... but it sounds like sour grapes to me.
That would be me I suppose. I stopped posting as I was getting some pretty bad emails from an anonymous "friend" I did track down this person and he has been dealt with.
It is hard to stay away, but the forum is so huge now, I find it difficult to keep up.
You misinterpreted my statement
If someones product and or customer service are bad then that's a valid argument based on fact, more importantly this is a matter for the parties involved to work out.
But you get ignorant people who feel the need to add their 2cents when they have no involvement
90% of the attacks on Trogg are unwarranted
They are usually based on his personality and most of the time I see him getting ganged up on by the followers because of some perceived rivalry
A legitimate complaint is one thing, but biased defamatory remarks have real consequences for him because he is the face for a real product.
No-one ridiculed the origins and value of the device when it first hit the forums more tham me frankie.
I'm good with my hands and was an engineer for many years so making the magnum mod ( must add this was unheard of at the time) or something similar was an option. But frankly I'm glad I purchased one and i have re-couped the initial costs of the unit several fold on not having to buy 'spares'
Thing is i keep getting stung by users posting up their used gear for ridiculous can't refuse prices...scoundrels
Yeah I'm not a name dropper
Good to have you back!!!
This place has gotten crazy in the past month, I've gotten a bunch of PM's from people who hate it here now
MY SD IS A GREAT SMOKE AND
Pal I LOVE IT, I WOULD HAVE PAID TWICE THE AMOUNT AND IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS THAT YOU THINK IT IS OVER PRICED. WE ARE ALL GROWNS UP HERE AND WE GET TO DO AS WE PLEASE, W/O YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS. DO NOT BUY IT IF IT DOES NOT APPEAL TO YOU, BUT DO NOT COMMENT ON SOMETHING UNLESS YOU HAVE TRIED IT OUT DIRECTLY AND THEN BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS AND THERE WORK THATS HOW WE DO THINGS HERE
AND NO ONE NEEDS TO BE RIDICULED, NOBODY
Thing is i keep getting stung by users posting up their used gear for ridiculous can't refuse prices...scoundrels
You give a guy a good deal and all he does is moan....
Do you own one?
I don't think you do, I remeber an argument you had with him in December
just for interest.. K... this place has thousands of members.. most of them are what i call the silent readers.. active posters are actually a small minority..
this small minority dominate the scene.. they act as if they are the scene even...
one of them will often pop up and use the word "we" just as if he or she is speaking for the thousands of active members.. sometimes i think they really believe in this "we" stuff... its often used against me.. so is the word "us" in exactly the same way.. i am just a "me"..it takes a brave soul indeed to ever come to my aid...
i dont post for the active posters.. i post for the vast majority of silent readers.. these are the people i try and help.. these are the people i care about.. i am pretty sure i dont piss these people off ether.. he he..
these are the people all the adds are aimed at as well... these are the people that really matter.. these people would also like something interesting to come and read as well... at least thats how i see things...
trog
Oh God the Fanboy Brigade is on me. Ruuuuuun!
But I do love this one. It sort of shows the gist of what a fanboy is.
Okay, okay, don´t get overexcited. I do not own the Screwdriver sewn-off flashlight. I own a different one which is beautiful in both vapour production and looks, and cost just a fraction of the SD price. It was custom-made for me from a flashlight, too, I believe. I love it because of certain reminiscences it evokes, but that is personal and non-transferrable. I also think that a good power pack for a good price is better than a standard battery. I think selling $25 product for $150 is ridiculous even in world where there are people willing to pay to have their balls kicked by overweight ageing ladies in leather outfits.
But, still... what I think is not my business, right?
But I do love this one. It sort of shows the gist of what a fanboy is.
Okay, okay, don´t get overexcited. I do not own the Screwdriver sewn-off flashlight. I own a different one which is beautiful in both vapour production and looks, and cost just a fraction of the SD price. It was custom-made for me from a flashlight, too, I believe. I love it because of certain reminiscences it evokes, but that is personal and non-transferrable. I also think that a good power pack for a good price is better than a standard battery. I think selling $25 product for $150 is ridiculous even in world where there are people willing to pay to have their balls kicked by overweight ageing ladies in leather outfits.
But, still... what I think is not my business, right?
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