something I just realized

[celticluvr]

One thing I noticed was that vaping improved my lung function even more than it all ready was before I even started smoking. I came from a smoke free family and yes I started smoking at the age of 11, socially. Mostly in the summer. I was always getting really bad colds in the winter time... they'd last from the time it got cold to the the time it got warm again. What I didn't know, was that it was an allergy to cats lowering my immune system. I didn't find out till a year after I moved out that I was allergic to the fuzzy monsters. I had them my whole life and was used to them... I just thought it was being around school children, was that I always got sick (which that could be partly it). That and I was always susceptible to get strep throat...

Anyway, i moved here, Bama from Ga, and got strep throat once when I still smoked. Started vaping 3 yrs ago and got a few minor colds and one bout of flu from fiance's young nephew... other than that? Nada!!!

Still everytime I go to my mama's house, I gotta take a claritin for the cats... And I love cats!!!

 

[mostlyclassics]

In 5½ years of vaping, I've had exactly one cold.

When I smoked, I got three or four colds per year. And about every other year, one of those would turn into bronchitis.

The one cold I've had was brought home by my wife from her office. Many of her co-workers had this highly contagious, really nasty cold turn into bronchitis or pneumonia. Several wound up in the hospital. My wife had it for a good six weeks, and for a while, I thought hers was turning into pneumonia.

Me? For me it was just a standard head cold. Some snorting and sniffling, and it went away in a week.

 

[Verb]

yep and yes it would but you can see even here there are those that can't bring themselves to agree with you




I heard this statement on some news report and could only shake my head in disbelief That is like you stubbed your toe and broke it. Doc ask you if you smoke. If you say yes then it will go down in your records that your broken toe was caused by smoking. that would be just as true as the reports that diabetes is cause by smoking. It seems every ill in the world is going to end up being caused by smoking. If we repeat the lies often enough then folks end up accepting them as truth.

Back on topic. I have been vaping going on 5 years. Not a single case of flu or a cold compared to the 2 or 3 I got every year pre vaping. I smoked for over 45 years.

I did not mean to imply any direct causality between smoking and diabetes. Just increased rates among the smoking population.

 

[mattiem]

I did not mean to imply any direct causality between smoking and diabetes. Just increased rates among the smoking population.

I agree that it does seem that diabetes is on the rise but if the truth was told I would be willing to bet that it isn't any higher in smokers than it is in non-smokers. I just see it as skewed numbers to demonize smokers even more than they are already.

 

[choochoogranny]

About 10 yrs. (?) ago, the medical profession changed the base line numbers for having "pre-diabetes". They lowered the numbers so it's now easier to attain that status. They did the same for having high blood pressure.

 

[mattiem]

About 10 yrs. (?) ago, the medical profession changed the base line numbers for having "pre-diabetes". They lowered the numbers so it's now easier to attain that status. They did the same for having high blood pressure.

yep, guess they didn't have enough folks taking all those high priced prescription med so they changed the numbers Every year when I have blood tests my dr tries to give me a prescription for cholesterol meds. Nope, I am not going to do it. One year she actually called in a prescription for some. Needless to say she got an ear full the next time I saw her. I debated and researched long and hard before I gave in to thyroid medication. I refuse cholesterol meds. I am thinking that a lot of folks think they have to take whatever the dr suggests.
Anyone remember when no matter what you went to the dr for you got diagnosed with acid reflux?

 

[choochoogranny]

Yes I do remember a big push for medicines for acid reflux, mattiem. Don't hear about them so much anymore. Now here in Chattanooga there's a bunch of advertising for hearing aids........and NRT's!

 

[sonicbomb]

This Dia de los Muertos reveler knows the score

 

[Robino1]

About 10 yrs. (?) ago, the medical profession changed the base line numbers for having "pre-diabetes". They lowered the numbers so it's now easier to attain that status. They did the same for having high blood pressure.

Also Cholesterol. SMH

As far as diabetes being on the rise, so is obesity. Funny how as smoking rates fall, obesity rates climb..... Just an observation.

Ditto here, on not getting sick since starting to vape.

 

[Opinionated]

Also Cholesterol. SMH

As far as diabetes being on the rise, so is obesity. Funny how as smoking rates fall, obesity rates climb..... Just an observation.

Ditto here, on not getting sick since starting to vape.

I didn't gain weight when I used vaping to quit.. the sweet flavors were really helpful, it satisfied my craving for anything sweet at the same time it gave me something to do with my hands.. I actually lost a bit rather than gain, simply because I didn't need to make a pie (for example) if I wanted something sweet.

 

[NealBJr]

Honestly I don't think it's anything to do with vaping, and everything to do with not smoking. Smoking is just that bad for you, it seems to affect how your body can fight off infection to some degree, and the longer you smoke the worse it gets.. In the last few years I was smoking, I was getting multiple colds and illnesses each year, and at least once a year was having a cold that I couldn't get rid of turn into pneumonia..

It might have to do with circulation that smoking interferes with, I don't know but not getting sick all the time anymore... is directly related to quitting smoking, and even though we vape, are experiencing the same benefits of not smoking that someone who was able to quit cold turkey experiences..

It's simply how smoking affects you, verses how not smoking affects you. There is no scientific data on this, it's simply my opinion.

The only thing I have to say about that, is my mother in law vapes as well, she doesn't get sick. The two that get sick the most, are never smokers. My son, and my wife. My mother in law is a very light vaper... cigalikes with no nic. I vape mostly vg, she vapes whatever non nic she can get.

 

[Opinionated]

The only thing I have to say about that, is my mother in law vapes as well, she doesn't get sick. The two that get sick the most, are never smokers. My son, and my wife. My mother in law is a very light vaper... cigalikes with no nic. I vape mostly vg, she vapes whatever non nic she can get.

Which is a good point I guess.. I have to say the only never smokers I know are the kid's, and they don't get sick very often at all..but this could be good genes or something.

I'll keep an open mind I suppose, perhaps someday someone will do controlled studies on the topic.

 

[Downgraded286]

I thought PG became toxic when heated?

 

[mattiem]

I thought PG became toxic when heated?

You must have read about the experiment someone did by turning the heat up until the coil and wick were right at the point of combustion and then said, yep, it gives off toxins Can you imagine a person actually trying to vape that way.

 

[NealBJr]

I thought PG became toxic when heated?

Yes, if you superheat lots of stuff then it would produce toxic substances... that is why smoking and vaping are two totally different things. If you superheat a steak to where it's a blackened lump of ash, I'm sure there would be plenty of toxic chemicals to warrant not eating it. However, if you heat it 450 degrees for 6-8 minutes, you'll end up with a good steak.

Same thing with e-liquid... don't burn your e-liquid.... it'll be unhealthy, taste bad, ruin your coils, and drain your battery fast... not a good idea.

 

[Two_Bears]

You must have read about the experiment someone did by turning the heat up until the coil and wick were right at the point of combustion and then said, yep, it gives off toxins Can you imagine a person actually trying to vape that way.

Are you talking about firing a ce4 ckearomuzer coil was 1,100 degree Fahrenheit, and the so called scientist saud Vaping creates formaldehyde.

 

[mattiem]

Are you talking about firing a ce4 ckearomuzer coil was 1,100 degree Fahrenheit, and the so called scientist saud Vaping creates formaldehyde.

yep, that's the one. Sad thing is, some folks read and believe that pure garbage.

 

[Downgraded286]

I agree there's a lot of BS misinformation floating about. Sometimes though questions get raised that I don't immediately have the answers to, so I set out to find the answer... of course it would be some ..... melting a CE4 to produce bad results... anything to make vaping look bad.

 

[mattiem]

I agree there's a lot of BS misinformation floating about. Sometimes though questions get raised that I don't immediately have the answers to, so I set out to find the answer... of course it would be some ..... melting a CE4 to produce bad results... anything to make vaping look bad.

It truly is sad that they put out this garbage because someone that really doesn't know may be afraid to try vaping because of it. I am glad you came here to learn the truth about this particular lie.

 

[DC2]

About 10 yrs. (?) ago, the medical profession changed the base line numbers for having "pre-diabetes". They lowered the numbers so it's now easier to attain that status. They did the same for having high blood pressure.

They did the same for obesity as well.

As to original topic, yes, of course!
I've been saying this for many years now.

I remember back when you'd hear a few people saying things like this now and then.
Now you have more and more long-time members chiming in.


There is more than enough "anecdotal" evidence to know something is going on here.
It's pretty much undeniable at this point as far as I'm concerned.