Something missing from regular cigarette...

[tazuo]

Ok first of all let's say e-cig are great device helping for sure to mitigate the need of cigarette without giving you to much problems but i feel i miss something from cigarette wich is not nicotine.
I try to explain you better...
E-cig are very good to quit your desire of smoking when you need but instead of a regular cigarette doesn't provide you the same satisfaction.
Not same energy or sense of well being you get right after a regular cigarette.
I just quit with regular cigarette since one week and i can tell you i don't really miss them.
E-cig do very well the job when i feel i want to smoke but my mind doesn't feel really well as i was when i smoked i'm less relaxed compare to before.
I image maybe antidepressant mao-i and other addictive substance contained in the regular cigarette play a big role.
Probabably detoxication from the regular cigarette a part from nicotine takes longer time to feel better...
What you think about how was your experience the first days with e-cigs?
Did you felt the same of me?
How long does it take to feel better and have back your good mood ?

 

[Trick]

I was happy from my first vape, to be honest. Sure, I fell back and smoked a few analogs because they were there, out of habit, after getting my first PV, but it wasn't long before I just didn't want a cigarette any more.

Personally, I find vaping a lot more satisfying than smoking ever was. I can change flavors whenever I want (to something other than burnt tobacco, no less), I've got complete control over how much nicotine I get, and I get to tinker with how the whole thing works.

I'm sure it's different for everyone, and probably depends a lot on what you're vaping, and how you're vaping it, but I find e-cigarettes to be vastly better than analogs in every way, really. I just can't imagine ever going back.

 

[Thrasher]

umm just about everything you said is spot on..........

the nic is not really all we are addicted to and usually the first week or two is the hardest.
if your having a hard time and your mood is foul try upping up the nic level.

 

[cocacola31173]

Well the nicotine from a e cig takes longer to take effect then in a real cig so you don't really get that instant satisfaction as when you smoked. Part of it is to learn that it is not like smoking a regular cig. The first 2 weeks were the hardest for me. You basically fall apart before you get better. I had aches and pains and trouble sleeping.

Now however not only do I feel a lot better the cravings are virtually gone for me. I can go a lot longer without vaping then I ever could without smoking. It will get better!

 

[Rachy_B]

I've heard that nicotine in itself is a mild anti-depressant... It causes the reward center of your brain to release dopamine and so too does the throat hit.

Where did i read it that it can help some people in their attempts to quit by taking anti-depressants?

If you are suffering with low mood for a prolonged period, eat and drink right, get plenty of sleep but you MUST speak to a medical professional! I won't tell you not to worry about this because low mood/mild depression can be serious. I don't know if it is connected to a quit attempt but a doctor MUST be consulted! Also, is it worth considering the time of year? I've not been feeling too hot since i quit 6 weeks ago but i know that i suffer from seasonal affective disorder so im not getting enough sunlight...x

 

[MikeA5]

Tazuo,
I agree. I've been vaping for 2 yrs now and feel something missing in ejuice that was in cigaretts but I've gotten over it over time.
There must be something else in cigaretts other than nicotine that I was addicted to but I don't know what it was. Keep vaping and Happy New Year

 

[tazuo]

Tazuo,
I agree. I've been vaping for 2 yrs now and feel something missing in ejuice that was in cigaretts but I've gotten over it over time.
There must be something else in cigaretts other than nicotine that I was addicted to but I don't know what it was. Keep vaping and Happy New Year

This could be the answer ???

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html#post4322166

 

[Cool_Breeze]

On the day after I took up ecigs, I surmised that for me they were about 80% as satisfying as cigarettes. I still think that.

 

[RichoVonBlack]

This could be the answer ???

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html#post4322166

Tried it, and there was a slight "up" from standard e nicotine, I decided against it because ( for me ) it was defeating the reasons ( chemicals added to nicotine ) I started vaping, others swear by it and that's why I go with vaping, more choice than analogs.

 

[Thucydides]

I'm sure it's different for everyone, and probably depends a lot on what you're vaping, and how you're vaping it, but I find e-cigarettes to be vastly better than analogs in every way, really. I just can't imagine ever going back.

Hear, hear!

 

[tazuo]

Well the nicotine from a e cig takes longer to take effect then in a real cig so you don't really get that instant satisfaction as when you smoked. Part of it is to learn that it is not like smoking a regular cig. The first 2 weeks were the hardest for me. You basically fall apart before you get better. I had aches and pains and trouble sleeping.

Now however not only do I feel a lot better the cravings are virtually gone for me. I can go a lot longer without vaping then I ever could without smoking. It will get better!

Really good to hear this from you ;-)

I' m really sad cause i'm pretty anxsious during this days...
I don't really want to smoke a regular cigarette e-cig is doing well this part when i need even after dinner after few puffs the want of a regular cigarette go away...
The problem is sadlu to say :-( since i quit smoking i'm anxsious and impotent.Is really difficult for me to stay erect.
Before i had no problems.
Sexual life is probably the most important part in my life and is the only thing could convince me in the future to smoke again if i would not solve the problem.
I prefer to risk illness and have a good sexual life instead of die healthy at 100 years with no sex...
First time i tought sexual problems maybe were caused from to much nicotine of vaping but now i'm sure this side effect are from quite smoking :-(

BTW your post is really cheering.
So if the next two weeks i will not able to have a sexual life i can give try to WTA e-liquids and if nothing change i will come back smoking really sadly but i have no choice.
Hope is just a period of detoxication...

 

[Rachy_B]

Again, this is a serious issue to bring up with your doctor. This isn't something you need to suffer with and can be resolved. Your doctor will be understanding and will have heard of quitting smoking and loss of libido so they'll talk you through the options. Also, don't worry about feeling embarrassed as i know people do when they talk about the birds and the bees with their doctor- they really have seen/heard it a thousand times!x

 

[Faylool]

WTA does the little bit extra for people who are having a hard time with just nicotine alone. It would be worth it to try it. If your goal is to get off nicotine altogether or if your goal is to simply replace smoking with vaping, WTA is worth a try. It's really not the big deal some write ups make about it but it is a little different. I had samples from about 7 different venders when I started and maybe after 6 weeks I finally got around to the 6 different WTA flavors I chose. All I had read was the vender's site after the juice name, not even his FAQs page. So I wasn't clear on it but it just sounded interesting. Slowly it very surely I started choosing it over other vape options and finally ran out. It's been 6 months and I still have e juice I got back then because I ended up using WTA 90 percent of the time AND I am also vaping a lot less now as well so it was a win win deal for me.

 

[tazuo]

Again, this is a serious issue to bring up with your doctor. This isn't something you need to suffer with and can be resolved. Your doctor will be understanding and will have heard of quitting smoking and loss of libido so they'll talk you through the options. Also, don't worry about feeling embarrassed as i know people do when they talk about the birds and the bees with their doctor- they really have seen/heard it a thousand times!x

I suffered in the past of serious anxiety/depression disease i'm still taking antidepressant and everytime i tried quit smoking was a disaster for me.
Smoking alcaloids not just nicotine are really really addictive.
And work a lot in the brain.
Of course in the long term not smoking could help a lot for people suffering of anxiety but the first weeks or even months is an hell for psichiatric people want to quit smoking.This is the problem.
I would sign a paper to be closed in a prison for 2 month without the possibility of touching a cigarette...
BTW vaping nicotine is thousand times better of not smoking nothing as i did before when i tried to stop...

 

[Rachy_B]

In that case, you need to find a very supportive doctor who you can trust...and one who may not endorse e-cigs but who supports your choice to try them.

You clearly have a lot going on in your life and if you do have a slip up, don't beat yourself up about it! The best advice i was given on this forum was to count the cigs i don't smoke, rather than the ones i did. Over time, i quit naturally.

But please, find yourself a good doctor! We're not medical experts here and a good doctor will be better capable of helping you through your quit attempt/cutting down considering your individual medical situation than us. Don't get me wrong, there's some excellent advice here which you could heed, and loads of support (i really can't stress that enough!), but to me it sounds like you could use medical advice tailored to your individual needs.x

 

[Jerms]

It seems like so many people try to quick cigs right away when switching. I smoked while vaping and eventually realized I enjoyed vaping more. I'm not saying it's the best way for everyone, but it might help some to remember it's an option. Of course, it was still a little nerve racking to decide not to buy another pack and to not have cigarettes around, but nothing extreme. I'm sure that was a big reason I didn't experience any withdrawal symptoms.

Each person experiences cigarette addiction differently so there's not a universal best plan to stop smoking. Instead it's often try what seems to work for most and if that isn't successful try another way. I think my primary addiction was to the nicotine and never felt a need for WTA. A year ago I went back to smoking for personal reasons and transitioned back to vaping when that was again a possibility. It was an easy transition. I just tried to not go too long without vaping to keep my nicotine levels from dropping too low and didn't beat myself up for having an occasional smoke. Before trying WTA I would suggest vaping more, don't go too long between vapes, or getting some juice with higher nicotine.

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[zapped]

Cigarette smoke has roughly 3999 other chemicals in it besides nicotine so its only natural to feel that something is missing.

The good news is that after a couple of weeks to a month those chemicals are flushed from your body and the withdrawals ease considerably.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Yes, I bet Phillip Morris or RJR could tell you. They will not.

 

[DaveP]

This is the best answer I've found. Burning tobacco emits thousands of chemicals and one of those is monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI). When you smoke, lower MAO B levels result in dopamine being destroyed at a lower rate in your brain (the result of higher MAO inhibitors) and that leads to a greater sense of relaxation for a longer period. When the urge hits you, vape a little harder. Time results in all of this balancing out to normality. Nicotine is relaxing due to the higher levels of dopamine it produces in the brain.

This is your brain on nicotine

 

[zapped]

This is the best answer I've found. Burning tobacco emits thousands of chemicals and one of those is monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOI). When you smoke, higher MAOI B levels result in dopamine being destroyed at a slower rate in your brain and that leads to a greater sense of relaxation. When the urge hits you, vape a little harder. Time results in all of this balancing out to normality.

This is your brain on nicotine

Ever notice the prescription drug ads on TV that warn people that they shouldnt take this drug if they are taking MAOI's or Thioridazine?
You shouldnt take those drugs as a smoker either by that logic but they dont ever mention that

I dont care if Im 90 years old, blind in one eye, cant walk and incontinent, Im not taking ANY of those drugs...seems like the side effects are worse than the symptoms they try to treat most of the time.

I REALLY love how they mention that kidney failure and death has been reported in a small number of patients in a lower volume and really fast at the end of the commercials too.

If anyone still thinks the F.D.A has their best interests at heart theyre kidding themselves.