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  1. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    after 4 months without tobacco, i've been real pleased because my breathing is better.
    that is, until the last couple of days.
    i'm huffing n puffing because i can't breathe thru my nose.
    as far as i can tell, this is due to my new juice, DIS WON.
    i'm allergic to something in this stuff, that isn't in my other juices.
    anyone have a recipe for this?

    i need to know what to avoid.
     
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  2. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    Other than Nicotine, PG and VG. Makers of the Juices don't list contents of ejuice. Get the one you used before if it wasn't problematic.

    Some people are allergic to PG or VG. Did the percentage VG/PG change a lot on the new juice?
     
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  3. Shadav

    Shadav Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2013
    Westfield, IN, USA
    it's possible....or it could be that it's spring and the pollen count is up ;)
     
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  4. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    yes. thanks, beam. this stuff is 70% vg.
    i usually use 50/50.
     
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  5. Cool_Breeze

    Cool_Breeze Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 10, 2011
    Kentucky
    I used to have a lot of sinus drainage down my throat. My solution...flavorless.
     
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  6. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    cool, i'l do that if i must.
    shad, pollen counts have been stable, but i'll know tomorrow.
     
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  7. Shadav

    Shadav Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2013
    Westfield, IN, USA
    today it's been bad...
    anyways, it's possible to have a reaction of sorts to certain things...
    pg is known to cause issues, try higher vg though you say this one is 70% vg... it's uncommon but some have issues with vg.... or it could be a flavor...it's really hard telling without trial and error but honestly more than likely it's just sinus/allergy
     
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  8. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    well, actually, thats what i think. it's allergy.
    this juice is what i suspect but i could be wrong.
     
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  9. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    My Mountain
    The PG and VG change likely isnt enough to make that much of a difference, not for an allergic reaction to occur.

    Manufacturers of storebought ejuice aren't helpful with what flavorings, and what companies they buy their flavors from. The best you can do is just stop buying that flavor... if you have a reaction to more than one juice by that manufacturer, then stop using the manufacturer as a whole.
     
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  10. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    The only people who could possibly tell you is the juice manufacturers themselves. And I’m betting they won’t. The FDA may know if the stuff went through their verification process, but I doubt they’re allowed to tell you even if they could find the info.

    One more reason to vape DIY. You control more. Not all, but more.
     
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  11. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    yup, vaping causes me alot of decision making problems...

    should I try this
    should I get a new...
    will this juice taste good after it ages

    :)
     
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  12. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    i hate that they don't have to list contents on the bottle.
    i won't buy from them again.
    i can't keep being doped up on benydril all the time.
     
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  13. VileCaveFurby

    VileCaveFurby Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2015
    Aside from the juice issue....you might think about using one of the nasal/sinus rinse liquids out there. Helps alot, especially in the winter when you're stuffed up. Feels a little funny first time you do it but really helps the sinuses.
     
  14. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    You mean a netti pot?
     
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  15. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Quarantine
    I can be pretty bad at jumping on people reporting weird problems with vaping, and I do wonder why sometimes.
    A bit of irony with it is that I had a whole raft of problems when I started vaping, I should be more sympathetic I would think.

    Just relaying a few things that have happened to me with different juices and ingredients.

    I cant vape PG all day, it affects me after 20-30mins vaping.
    To get to the point of figuring out that it was PG that was the problem and to find a solution and an enjoyable vape I worked through everything that is involved in converting juice into vapour. Juice and its ingredients, wick and coil material, temperature and any other variable.
    I can vape unflavoured vg/pg/nic for a short while and if I stop at the right time I might just feel a bit dry in the sinus's. Sometimes I feel like a flavour just for a change but I havnt really found anything that works well with just VG and DW so I mix up batches of flavours just for when I might feel like a flavour that work out to about 30pg/70vg.
    What I have found is that there are some flavours that really speed up the reaction I have with pg and increase the symptoms. I can feel myself reacting within a very short time, sometimes within just a few puffs. The reaction can actually initially feel kinda "full" and good like the best part of a cigarette! right up until it starts feeling bad, and then it feels horrible

    Ive also had one litre batch of VG that made me feel ill. I wasnt sure what was going on but my usual unflavoured brew made me feel ill. I thought I must have failed to sterilize everything properly so I started again from scratch and was careful to sterilize everything thoroughly. Cleaned and rewicked my atty and tried the new batch only to feel a bit ill. I noticed a slight difference in the taste compared to an older batch. I filled an atty with just the vg and another atty with some other vg. They tasted different and the bad tasting vg made me feel ill.
    I dont know if the VG was out of code or if it hadnt been bottled hygienically or what was going on but I ditched it and found another supplier.

    When I first started vaping and before I really started having a problem with PG I bought some pre made juice, a vanilla custard or something. It made me feel quite ill and I gave it to a work mate and told him my problem with it with the advice to just ditch it rather than vape it, he vaped it, he was too ill to come in to work the next night.
    It was that experience that got me started into DIY, and then the final straw which sent me into DIY completely was developing a pg intolerance.


    That turned out to be a longer post than I thought it was going to be.
     
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  16. Cool_Breeze

    Cool_Breeze Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 10, 2011
    Kentucky
    @Jebbn

    You mention feeling ill several times. It might be useful to some readers to know what your 'feeling ill' symptoms were.
     
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  17. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Quarantine
    Nausea, queasy and all that goes with it.
     
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  18. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    gopher, those nasal flush things were mentioned a few weeks back in another post.
    i had one delivered yesterday n it might help.

    what really helped is i stopped vaping the dis won n i'm all better.
    i really wish i knew what was in it, since i'm allergic to something it contains.
    i'm gonna toss it.
    sigh.
    it was very expensive n tasted ok.

    i suppose i gotta toss the new coil too.
    an expensive lesson.
    my other stuff i can chain vape with no problems.

    by the way, jeb, this is vanilla custard too.
     
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  19. newyork13

    newyork13 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2013
    western Massachusetts
    Good subject. And completely hard to answer it.
    We're all different and react to substances differently.
    And we change over time.
    I, for one, don't do well with high VG liquids. Sniffly, coughy, burning throat. Max VG is very bad.
    There are juices which are high VG (70%) and which are fine. Others at the same % are really irritating.
    There are some juices at 50/50 which are neutral. Others at 50/50 are irritating.
    Could it be the type of VG used, or more likely the flavorings used.
    It would be great if it were a cookie cutter. But, it's not.
     
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  20. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    the dis won has 70 % VG.
    everything else i have is 50/50.
    ny, it's interesting you got stuffy from vg.
    maybe i'll start getting higher pg, 60%.
     
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