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Do these idiots even test the things after the first one is made? Or maybe test a few of them, then say, "ok, they work, ship them"
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Sorry no idea. SO far I ordered two squape clones. First one was the hcigar which was a total disaster. The second one is the Winsmoke which is excellent but only if its not DOA.
I'm glad to see your post Ryan, I bought one of your WS Squapes on Ebay. I haven't had a chance to work on it yet but your post will surely come in handy when I do. Hopefully when I get home next week I'll be able to post my experience with it.
Ironvapin....your post actually helped me a lot.....thank you. I couldn't get my squape clone to work with the original pin but it works great with the pin from another clone. After reading your post I decided to try one more time to get it to work with the original pin. I screwed it down all the way and it still didn't work. I used a small screwdriver to do it. I got out a bigger screwdriver and see if i could torque it some more and tighten a turn more. That did the trick...suddenly it works perfectly with the original pin. I bet a lot of people who got these DOA from FT....if they tightened it down all the way and I mean really ridiculously tightened it down all the way....they would actually fire. I don't understand why they are designed this way but thanks again.
Finally got home and got a chance to try the Winsmoke clone, and after a couple of rewicks to get the flooding issue figured out it it's pretty sweet. Ironvaping offered an option to drill it for better air flow but I figured I could do it myself if it needed it and it's pretty close so I'm going to spend a little more time with it before I drill on it. I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet but so far I'm digging this clone.
I got one from focalecig a couple days ago. No box or anything, so I have no idea who the manufacturer might be. It was absolutely foul-smelling when I first got it. Machine oil. Soaked it for a few hours in isopropyl alcohol, rinsed, scrubbed it with hot soapy water. Machine smell, gone!
That aside, it seems to be perfectly functional. Two air channels and two holes in the 510 connection. Draw IS a bit tighter than a kayfun clone. I'm using 28 gauge kanthal, 5 wrap micro coil. Internal diameter is about 2mm, wicked with cotton. .74 Ohm. It's parked on a Sigelei 8W right now.
I'm having a lot of the same frustrations I have with my kayfun/russian clones, which I have come to expect with clones. I basically just haven't stumbled upon the right amount/density/length for the wick. Right now, I've got it trimmed to where each tail comes a little less than 1/2 way down the vertical part of the juice channels. I have to take a hard primer pull every three or four hits.
Next time I have it apart, I'll have to post some photos so you guys can tell me what I'm doin' stupid.
That aside, it seems to be perfectly functional. Two air channels and two holes in the 510 connection. Draw IS a bit tighter than a kayfun clone. I'm using 28 gauge kanthal, 5 wrap micro coil. Internal diameter is about 2mm, wicked with cotton. .74 Ohm. It's parked on a Sigelei 8W right now.
I'm having a lot of the same frustrations I have with my kayfun/russian clones, which I have come to expect with clones. I basically just haven't stumbled upon the right amount/density/length for the wick. Right now, I've got it trimmed to where each tail comes a little less than 1/2 way down the vertical part of the juice channels. I have to take a hard primer pull every three or four hits.
Next time I have it apart, I'll have to post some photos so you guys can tell me what I'm doin' stupid.
Found a solution hat worked for me.
Remove the center screw
Sand it slightly
take a toothpic apply cotton
clean the centerpost inside the squape
take some silverwire Form a little disc
put this disk in top of the screw
hold the screw with the disc in top and put the Squape from above on the screw
tighten the screw
Sorry for spelling and grammar
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Remove the center screw
Sand it slightly
take a toothpic apply cotton
clean the centerpost inside the squape
take some silverwire Form a little disc
put this disk in top of the screw
hold the screw with the disc in top and put the Squape from above on the screw
tighten the screw
Sorry for spelling and grammar
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Here's a few photos I just took. After looking at these, I straightened out the coil to make it more level, and I lowered it a bit. I also replaced the cotton with a slightly thinner wick. Works a little better now. But I'd still appreciate any pointers.
After taking it on and off the mod a few times began to have issues with the center pin losing connectivity, so I tried this
and haven't had any issues since. Kind of ugly to have to do this to a 2 day old atty, but it did work.
Found a solution hat worked for me.
Remove the center screw
Sand it slightly
take a toothpic apply cotton
clean the centerpost inside the squape
take some silverwire Form a little disc
put this disk in top of the screw
hold the screw with the disc in top and put the Squape from above on the screw
tighten the screw
Sorry for spelling and grammar
.
and haven't had any issues since. Kind of ugly to have to do this to a 2 day old atty, but it did work.
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Does anyone know the size of the o-ring that is around the 510 pin of a tobeco squape? Mine broke the other day and I didn't realize it and it would not fire on my nemesis. Lucky I didn't have any venting but it did drain my 18490 AW IMR all the way down.
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Thanks for the link....but I got my FT Winsmoke Squape working with the original pin (see my previous post). Honestly I think it is the best version of the squape you can get. They have made the channels extra wide and it just wicks and performs great. The only issue with it is you have to tighten the 510 pin all the way (see my previous post).... So the 510 pin isn't adjustable like other squapes.
I have it on direct authority with Winsmoke that they do not supply fast tech.
A lot of companies don't/won't supply FT directly, yet FT still carries their products. A trick they picked up from Costco, I assume...
FT sells clones of clones. Check out this statement that Matthew Ma of eCigator wrote. eCigator is another Shenzhen-based clone manufacturer if you are not familiar with them.
https://plus.google.com/111087055819604704094/posts/BeU8fX7Z8dW
I have spoken to reps of many different clone manufacturers, and had extensive contact with WinSmoke in recent months. They all have a general disdain for FT, to say the least, and adamantly deny that they have any business relationships with FT whatsoever, and insist that FT has never been authorized to sell their products.
You'll also find 'their' products on FT with free shipping for less than what these companies charge per unit in bulk, before freight charges, even in the highest quantities. Doesn't seem logical that these manufacturers would allow FT to undersell/directly compete with them and their international clients.
FT's stuff is bottom-of-the-barrel junk, probably made using child labor at those prices.
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Oh no!!! Say it isn't so!!! I would hate to think I might be purchasing a clone of a clone and not giving my money to the ORIGINAL cloners who put all their blood, sweat, and tears into making their clone!!!
Whatever. A lot of us have purchased high quality stuff from FT that looks and works great. If they are doing their own manufacturing (which doesn't seem reasonable, but...) then, in a lot of cases, they are doing just as good a job as the rest of the clone makers over there.
There certainly isn't a shortage of people parroting the anti-FT nonsense. Isn't there a dedicated thread for that somewhere....?
I completely agree....I have bought many clones off of FT and they have all been excellent. Yesterday I got my Taifun clone from them finally and I am amazed how nice it is. I don't have an original to compare to ...but it seems like a perfect one to one copy. If the Winsmoke squape sold by FT is a clone of a clone, then it is a damn good one at half the price.
Guys, I'm not looking for an argument, just trying to share what I thought was useful information and valid evidence. I'm not asking for sympathy for clone makers, nor do I sympathize with them, and I didn't expect anyone here to take offense on FT's behalf.
Sure they can make decent stuff sometimes (although not so much for all of the DOA squape recipients), but the point was if you believe that you obtained a certain company's device on FT, it is extremely likely that you did not, at least according to the parties involved, and there is public record of at least one of them saying so. If you want to contradict that statement, I suggest that you actually dig for some information before simply issuing blind assumptions.
Further, there doesn't seem to be any shortage of folks complaining about receiving defective or just poor quality stuff from FT. Tobeco isn't still in business because FT makes comparable stuff for half of the price. Where do you suppose those savings come from?
If you'd rather just continue making assumptions and spreading misinformation, by all means, don't let me interrupt you. I'll find a forum that is more receptive to sourced information, and less polluted with arrogance and elitism. I graduated high school a long time ago, not taking the bait, so save the petty attitude for the next guy. Let's have a conversation like two adults.
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i got my FT squape version A with the spare parts kit two days ago, i ordered march 7th. it looks nice and everything works so far except the threads on the 510 were ran into when they machined the air channels on the bottom of the deck. i got an adapter so i dont trash my connections and so far it has worked without issues but i've only put one coil on it. its too bad cause it would've been perfect otherwise.
i got the new base offer from FT CS, hopefully they get it soon, im holding off purchasing the items in my cart until it comes in.
i got the new base offer from FT CS, hopefully they get it soon, im holding off purchasing the items in my cart until it comes in.
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