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This might be a stupid idea and maybe no one will understand it but would it be theoretically possible to have a "hard" plastic thin square box shaped to the size of the inside of the reo as a bottle?

Soft enough to squeeze easily and if its the same size of the inside and a bit more stiff it shouldnt be able to touch the spring, and hold a bunch of liquid.

No one probably understands what I mean or it's a stupid idea but figured I would share haha.
 

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How do you keep it from leaking out the top?
 

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The hole in the cap for the tube is a made to be a tight fit and the cap/bottle is a sauce/juice bottle with a sealing cap (like the Vmod bottle), where Rob's bottle is a dropper style...if you remove the dropper you need an o ring...or did that just confuse things :confused:

^^^what he said....sorta. Ha. Yeah, it's a different type of plastic....it's soft. When I poked a hole in it, I left it small enough that I sorta had to squeeze the tube through it. It's very snug around the tube. I've used these now for two whole days, and they're working great.
 

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^^^what he said....sorta. Ha. Yeah, it's a different type of plastic....it's soft. When I poked a hole in it, I left it small enough that I sorta had to squeeze the tube through it. It's very snug around the tube. I've used these now for two whole days, and they're working great.

Also what he said ^^^^^^ lol. Another explanation is that the tube is a kind of rubber tubing. If you leave the hole a little smaller than the size of the tubing you have to squeeze the end of the tubing to get it through the hole, then when you stop squeezing it expands and blocks off the hole tight enough that even when you squeeze the bottle the juice just goes up the middle of the tube rather than push out around the outside of the tube where it's squeezed into the hole. If the tubing was more of a hard plastic the whole thing wouldn't work. You'd have to have some kind of rubber washers to seal where the tube meets the hole.
 

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Like this?

A problem I see with this is that the ridge where they join makes the bottle tight in the space....so when I put the battery in, it's really snug. And the door is harder to slide on (I can live with that.) I wonder if the battery would actually drop if the spring collapsed. I'm afraid it might stay held up by the tightness of the bottle. So....Quigsworth....how do you (can you) weld the two bottles together without much of a seam? Or....how do you get rid of the seam? Or....do you have a method that doesn't make much of a seam?

I heated up a non-stick pan on the stove, then I cut the top off of one bottle and the bottom off of the other. I pressed each side down on the heated pan until I could tell they were getting sticky, then I quickly stuck them together and held it a second until it seemed stuck. I put water in it to make sure there were no leaks, an voila!!! Do you have a better method?

EDIT: Holds about 12-13 ml.

Kinda feel funny quoting my own post, but just wanted to mention that after using the double, fused bottle most of the day yesterday, I dumped it and went back to the regular 9ml middle sized bottle. The seam made it a really tight fit which I thought might interfere with the dropping of the battery if I had a short, but mostly it interfered with the squonking. One of the best features of these little square bottles is how soft they are and how easy they make squonking. The seam totally messed that up.

I totally recommend these.....after using them for two days, I'm still totally impressed. No leaks, more capacity, easier squonking, and to me they just look super cool. :)
 

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...The seam made it a really tight fit which I thought might interfere with the dropping of the battery if I had a short, but mostly it interfered with the squonking. One of the best features of these little square bottles is how soft they are and how easy they make squonking. The seam totally messed that up...

I've welded a number of bottles now, mostly cause its fun, and I like the smell, and torturing bugs with a magnifying glass was starting to give me grave Karma concerns.

I've found the seam thing isn't so much an issue if the bottom bottle is cut right at the top (where it turns into the neck) and the top bottle just makes up the final height you want...I was really bummed I didn't get my square bottles this weekend...
 

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I've welded a number of bottles now, mostly cause its fun, and I like the smell, and torturing bugs with a magnifying glass was starting to give me grave Karma concerns.

I've found the seam thing isn't so much an issue if the bottom bottle is cut right at the top (where it turns into the neck) and the top bottle just makes up the final height you want...I was really bummed I didn't get my square bottles this weekend...

Yeah, I totally get the Karma/bug connection and you're right to worry. I may try a new weld one of these days. I think I could adjust it a little and make the seam fall in a little better place. I'm really enjoying having 9 ml. No need for greed. :) Hope they come tomorrow.
 

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Just got in the square bottles from Japan... how very cute!!! AND... the middle size fits into a woodvil 18650 PERFECTLY. But it's only about the same volume as the original round bottle.

Given the low profile on the teeny red caps, if this were to be fused in the middle, it looks like it would double the ml volume in the 18650 woodvil. My question is... how did you handle leakproofing the red tops??
 

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Just got in the square bottles from Japan... how very cute!!! AND... the middle size fits into a woodvil 18650 PERFECTLY. But it's only about the same volume as the original round bottle.

Given the low profile on the teeny red caps, if this were to be fused in the middle, it looks like it would double the ml volume in the 18650 woodvil. My question is... how did you handle leakproofing the red tops??

I'd guess that when they cut the hole for the tube, they cut it slightly smaller than the diameter of the tube, lubed up the tube and jammed it in there. The tube would expand to seal up the hole.
 

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Just got in the square bottles from Japan... how very cute!!! AND... the middle size fits into a woodvil 18650 PERFECTLY. But it's only about the same volume as the original round bottle.

Given the low profile on the teeny red caps, if this were to be fused in the middle, it looks like it would double the ml volume in the 18650 woodvil. My question is... how did you handle leakproofing the red tops??

Glassgal, it LOOKS like it's the same volume as the old bottle, but if you put water in it then measure it, you'll see it holds around 9 ml (instead of 6 ml.) the square shape allows more volume. Fill one of the round bottles then pour it over into the square bottle and you'll see.
 
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Glassgal, it LOOKS like it's the same volume as the old bottle, but if you put water in it then measure it, you'll see it holds around 9 ml (instead of 6 ml.) the square shape allows more volume. Fill one of the round bottles then pour it over into the square bottle and you'll see.

Ok:). Have to check that... but it's shorter than the round bottle? And the red cap is way shorter than the pointy cap. So if it were fused, ala Quig's method, you'd get more than double the volume in it. Just don't know how it would squonk.

One thing I'm pretty thrilled about is that Japan and Taiwan plastics are much more carefully controlled than China's, so presumably safer to use too.
 

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The fused bottle doesn't squonk as well. Read thru this thread.....there's a section about the fused bottle. I posted a pic then talked about it. The seam from the fusing interferes with the squonking for me.

I saw that... I noticed that the seam was very low on the bottle. Do you think it would make a difference if the seam were higher up? That is, the cut is right at the very top of the bottom bottle, and higher on the top bottle, so that you aren't actually pushing near the seam?

I don't have time to try it for a few days anyway:).
 
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