Steeping Times and an Ultrasonic Cleaner Part III

[LongDraw]

Any thoughts on the two that I posted above? Price gets pretty close since the joy4less shipping is expensive. So more of just durability and size.

Joy4less holds two liters and the other hold 1.89 liters, so pretty comparable for size. Now just has anyone used both?

I think the Ultrasonic Cleaner generates enough heat on its own.

 

[michaelsil1]

Any thoughts on the two that I posted above? Price gets pretty close since the joy4less shipping is expensive. So more of just durability and size.

Joy4less holds two liters and the other hold 1.89 liters, so pretty comparable for size. Now just has anyone used both?

I bought the Hagerty from Home Depot it has a 59 minute timer, so far it hasn't failed me.


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hagerty-Digital-Ultrasonic-Jewelry-Cleaner-16508/203731801#.UfVTnb7n-00

 

[dannyv45]

So I think I am going to order an ultra sonic today.

This one seems to be pretty popular Joy4Less Professional Grade Ultrasonic Cleaner 4810, 30-min Timer, Plastic Basket, any suggestions outside of this one?

And a few questions:
1.) Is it suggested to use heat on every cycle, thought I read someone only using heat on the first cycle?

2.) Any rough idea on cycle time, like 1 hour equals a 1 week of regular steeping?

EDIT: Any thoughts on this one, Amazon.com: 1/2 Gallon Digital Heated UltraSonic Cleaner Stainless Steel Ultra Sonic Gal: Health & Personal Care or compared to the joy4less one Amazon.com: Joy4Less Professional Grade Ultrasonic Cleaner 4810, 30-min Timer, Plastic Basket: Health & Personal Care

I am primarily concenred with durability, and wondering if both would be of appropriate size to steep a few 30 or 60 ml bottles at a time.

The 4810 is a very good choice it's what I use and I love it.

Start with warm water and use the heat cycle for the first 30 minutes then no heat until the water cools back down.

1 hour = 1 week is a pretty good estimate.
for fruits and candies no steeping to 30 minutes
for fruit and creams 30 min to 1.5 hours
for 1 flavor tobaccos 2.5 - 3 hours
for complex tobaccos (ry4's) 4 - 5 hours.

 

[LongDraw]

Awesome, thank you both.

Now I just gotta decide between the 2, price difference of about 25 when you look at shipping for the joy4less.

I like the the industrial one with the long timer set, and for whatever reason makes me think it might hold up longer. Or maybe just cause its shiny haha.

I bought the Hagerty from Home Depot it has a 59 minute timer, so far it hasn't failed me.


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hagerty-Digital-Ultrasonic-Jewelry-Cleaner-16508/203731801#.UfVTnb7n-00

 

[michaelsil1]

Awesome, thank you both.

Now I just gotta decide between the 2, price difference of about 25 when you look at shipping for the joy4less.

I like the the industrial one with the long timer set, and for whatever reason makes me think it might hold up longer. Or maybe just cause its shiny haha.

In that case see what the Hz is the higher the better

 

[LongDraw]

Joy4Less is 36,000 hz and the other can be set at 42 or 25 thousand hz. Plus, the other can be set at a range of 35 to 176F.

Think I will go with the other, since they are very close in comparison. Mainly banking on it being more durable.

Now, just gotta pull the trigger.

 

[LongDraw]

Sorry, last question. Do you leave the lid off when you use it? Does that affect how well it will work?

 

[bobalex]

Sorry, last question. Do you leave the lid off when you use it? Does that affect how well it will work?

All my GUCE-ing is done lidless.

 

[Frankenmizer]

Hey GUCE-ers one and all - I just finished my latest video:



And it's time to devote an entire video to GUCE. But before I do that ... I'll need all your input/tweaks/tips. Anyone who has crawled through this thread knows I'm a 100% PG All tobacco-All The Time vaper. My DIY experience is limited because I make 4 flavors ... period. Everyone else follows waaaaaaaaay more complex recipes than I do.

So ... when y'all have a moment to spare ... shoot me some info about how you approach GUCE-ing and I'll incorporate it into the video.

Thanks,

Bob

That was a brilliant video. Dang, Bob, you got mad skills.

 

[botakvap]

Quick question, can i just steep the flavor alone?

 

[bobalex]

I don't think I get your question. The point of using an ultrasonic cleaner is to get the PG/VG, nic, and flavorings to mingle faster than just steeping on a shelf. I guess if you were trying to step down the nic you could make up a batch of just PG/VG and flavorings, UC that, and then add the percentage of nic you wanted but then you'd still end up ultrasonic-ing that to avoid days/weeks of steepage.

 

[botakvap]

I don't think I get your question. The point of using an ultrasonic cleaner is to get the PG/VG, nic, and flavorings to mingle faster than just steeping on a shelf. I guess if you were trying to step down the nic you could make up a batch of just PG/VG and flavorings, UC that, and then add the percentage of nic you wanted but then you'd still end up ultrasonic-ing that to avoid days/weeks of steepage.

Right on the money bobalex, i appreciate the rely.

 

[LongDraw]

So I bought this one Amazon.com: 1/2 Gallon Digital Heated UltraSonic Cleaner Stainless Steel Ultra Sonic Gal: Health & Personal Care

1.89 liters, can adjust the HZ at either 42K or 26K, and a 90 minute timer with adjustable heat. The dimensions are pretty close to the Joy4Less, here is to hoping I picked a good one.

Thanks again for all the help, especially the suggested steeping times. Gonna copy that down now.

Any suggestions on temp to use, I thought I read 125F? So I understand to, I would use the first 30 minutes with heat, at what temp works best, then all remaining cylces with no heat?

2nd Edit: Sorry I have read through the thread, but don't remember reading how do people steep the little 6 ml plastic bottles? Or should I just use glass 15ml or 30ml and only put about 5ml in there to test?

 

[Mowgli]

So I bought this one Amazon.com: 1/2 Gallon Digital Heated UltraSonic Cleaner Stainless Steel Ultra Sonic Gal: Health & Personal Care

1.89 liters, can adjust the HZ at either 42K or 26K, and a 90 minute timer with adjustable heat. The dimensions are pretty close to the Joy4Less, here is to hoping I picked a good one.

Thanks again for all the help, especially the suggested steeping times. Gonna copy that down now.

Any suggestions on temp to use, I thought I read 125F? So I understand to, I would use the first 30 minutes with heat, at what temp works best, then all remaining cylces with no heat?

2nd Edit: Sorry I have read through the thread, but don't remember reading how do people steep the little 6 ml plastic bottles? Or should I just use glass 15ml or 30ml and only put about 5ml in there to test?

Glass transmits us waves better but I rubber band plastic botts to the large glass ones sometimes.

 

[LongDraw]

Good idea, I could rubber band the smaller plastic testers to one glass one filled with water.

Glass transmits us waves better but I rubber band plastic botts to the large glass ones sometimes.

 

[Ta2ooz]

Fast tech to the rescue $18.06 Battery Powered Ultrasonic Wave Cleaner for Jewelry and Eyeglasses at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[hngntuf]

Might be off topic just a little or already covered, I can't remember even though I read the whole thang. Sorry.

Would the UC help with extracting flavors (NETs)?

 

[michaelsil1]

Might be off topic just a little or already covered, I can't remember even though I read the whole thang. Sorry.

Would the UC help with extracting flavors (NETs)?

No! It integrates Plant Matter that can't be filtered out.

 

[LongDraw]

So I think I found a solution to ultrasonicing samples. I bought 4, 2 dram (which is about 6ml glass bottles) from ecig express. Figure those should be enough until I use my flavors up from wizard labs and then I'll have a bunch more for making sample batches.

 

[SpinDr480]

Fast tech to the rescue $18.06 Battery Powered Ultrasonic Wave Cleaner for Jewelry and Eyeglasses at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I don't believe the fasttech USC would be ideal for use. It requires batteries to be used instead of an AC outlet. I don't think you would get much out of it.