Still can't quit the analogs, very frustrated, thinking of trying patches

[bettysue]

Thank you so much for your reply and encouragement

betty

You should be so proud of yourself for trying to get off analogs. You're doing something about it, and that's GREAT! I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe you already found it, but you WILL find the right system for you, and when that happens, you won't ever want an analog again! Best of luck!

 

[Faylool]

Mouth full of vapor out over the top lip into nose= French inhale

 

[bettysue]

Congrats on your success!!

I don't drink alcohol anymore, but back when I did I was a chain smoker when drinking. I mainly stopped drinking when I had to go on morphine. I don't think the two would play well together

betty

I'm thinking of trying WTA.

vaping works for me 100% when sober, I actually enjoy it MORE than I did smoking!

But when I drink alcohol, normal e-juice just does not do it and I have 1 - 5 cigs. I don't cry over it as it's only once or twice a week and that means I'm down from 40 a week to 2 - 10 and that's 120 analogues less per month equals 1,200 less per ten months and it's the ones we DON'T smoke that matter.

But yeah, when drunk it ain't cutting it and hotwire needs a cpl of drinkies (not heavy) a week with the boys after work.

 

[bettysue]

Mouth full of vapor out over the top lip into nose= French inhale

I'm not sure I'm coordinated enough to do that...lol

betty

 

[ziggy929]

(So sorry to all that replied, I must have not checked the notification option when I posted and wasn't notified of any replies)

1. I smoke 2 packs a day of menthol 100's. Since the cigarette prices sky rocketed a couple of years ago I am smoking Clippers which technically is a cigar but they are the size of and taste like cigarettes.

2. I am currently mixing 24mg nicotine and 12mg nicotine

3. Liquid is tobacco-menthol flavored which I really like

4. My e-cig kit is a Joytech ego-c only with clearomizers instead of what they normally come with and 1000 mah batteries:

eGo-C w/ CE5 eGo Clearomizer Starter Kit

thank you,
betty

I smoked Marlboro Menthol 100's. I just found an eliquid that taste very close to that after letting it sit for a couple of weeks steeping. I do not smoke any analogs at all and smoked close to 1 1/2 packs and sometimes 2 to 3 when out drinking with friends. The name of the juice is by Revolver and the name of it is Tobacco Red Mint. When I first tired it, didn't taste like I wanted, last night I pulled it out of my big juice storage box and man it was nice with a cold beer. I don't always vape that, I like to vape things like Vanda from Johnson Creek smoke juice because it is SO sweet and creamy, but good. Hope this may help with keeping you off them. Try out the Revolver. I am on many meds for health issues too and I use Welburtin to help with the stress of stop smoking. I am not a doctor, and not telling you to take anything but you could ask your doctor about it. It was covered by my insurance and cost next to nothing for a big bottle. I am down to only 1 pill a day from 2 and still have not went back. I hope this helps some and I hope its not too much of a repeat of what others have said. BEST of LUCK!!! You can do this. Just another point, I was only 38 when I had my first stroke(sure if was the cigs). I had 2 more TIA's 4 years after the stroke within month of each other. I am so lucky that I had no permanent damage, however I knew I would not be so lucky the 2nd time. Please do all you can to get off the analogs. You will be sooo happy you did. PLEASE KEEP VAPING!!!! Oh I forgot to add the mod you use makes all the difference. My sister in law tried my Vamo and said I can quit with that. She has smoked over 35 years and 2 packs or more a day. I ordered all of her stuff and just waiting for it all to come in so I can get her started. With this device you can change the throat hit and the flavor by adjusting the screen, also will let you know when to recharge the batteries. The kits are really cheap now.

 

[Hotwire]

You'll get there if you want bad enough. Snus is an awesome replacement and nasal snuff even better if you can take the stuff and all the blowing. It's hit is the same as a cigarret te. Fast. French inhale the vape and exhale through the nose. Most the nic gets absorbed through the nose. Think about that cloud disappearing into your nose. The affects are a little faster than mouth. Slow down and play with the vape. Vaping and smoking are different! I visualize licking clean a dirty ashtray or chewing up cigarette butts. Takes some of its appeal away.

Excellent advice and is my approach to vaping. Instead of thinking of it as an analogue replacement, I think of it as a new habit / hobby, more like a shisha / hookah, seeing as we can get some many more flavors, I sit there and really draw slow sometimes taking a new draw while exhaling the first through my nose and then let the second really dance around in my mouth and palette and nose, really savoring the aroma and taste more like a cigar or wine coneseur, I don't bother drawing in to my lungs, I don't even feel like it anymore, I just feel like waking up my nasal passages and mouth with the taste, texture and aroma and I swear nothing is better than doing this with MENTHOL in the morning with my first coffee, nothing!

 

[Susaz]

I do have Fibromyalgia as a side effect of hypermobility syndrome. I never considered that it may have a part in my sleep problems. My problem isn't going to sleep, it is staying asleep. On a typical night I'll fall asleep then two hours later I am wide awake for a few hours. Sometimes I can go back to sleep, sometimes I can't.

betty

That's the fybromyalgia all right... The combination of melatonin and Klonopin have me sleeping at a regular hour, for 4 to 6 solid hours. But if I wake up early, I try not to nap during the day. if I do I don't sleep at night. Ask your doctor, it takes a LONG time to settle down, more like a year. Don't give up. Also, I get better results on smaller doses, works better with me.

 

[patkin]

My step-daughter has fibro and that's one of the main problems. The doc (arthritis and fibro specialist) has her on meds, including cymbalta but no sleep aides.. I think muscles relaxant, that have her sleeping a full 8 hours. He saysits the main thing that has to be handled in fibro as it will never get better without proper sleep. Cymbalta has really worked wonders for her.

 

[Susaz]

I do have Fibromyalgia as a side effect of hypermobility syndrome. I never considered that it may have a part in my sleep problems. My problem isn't going to sleep, it is staying asleep. On a typical night I'll fall asleep then two hours later I am wide awake for a few hours. Sometimes I can go back to sleep, sometimes I can't.

betty

Duplicate. Sorry.

 

[Hotwire]

That's the fybromyalgia all right... The combination of melatonin and Klonopin have me sleeping at a regular hour, for 4 to 6 solid hours. But if I wake up early, I try not to nap during the day. if I do I don't sleep at night. Ask your doctor, it takes a LONG time to settle down, more like a year. Don't give up. Also, I get better results on smaller doses, works better with me.

I take Klonopin for insomnia, 3mg. Get a good 7 hours. Trick is to take it an hour before bed and then forget about it, watch a show or read, walk the dog etc. Then goto bed and get those precious zzzzzzzzzzzz's

 

[Hotwire]

^^ Though it can mess with your memory performance and I've been down to 2mg for a week and looking to get down to 1mg. A bit less sleep versus memory loss = no brainer, memory more important.

 

[Susaz]

I take Klonopin for insomnia, 3mg. Get a good 7 hours. Trick is to take it an hour before bed and then forget about it, watch a show or read, walk the dog etc. Then goto bed and get those precious zzzzzzzzzzzz's

I take it under the tongue (much faster action) and watch a vape video while in bed. Works miracles...

 

[soba1]

For starters, try this. Before you pick up your first cig.
Vape first.....then u can smoke.
When u have that first cup of coffee.
Vape with that first cup, then smoke.
After a meal vape first. If after u want a cig it's ok.
Try just changing your habits......
Do it for 30 days.
Whenever u want a cigarette, vape first.
Then if u want have a cig. Always choose to vape first.
Keep a pack of cigs........
That's what I did believe me I was a hardcore chain smoker.
The more stressed and anxious the more I smoked.
If I could quit anyone can.....
Good luck

 

[Hotwire]

I take it under the tongue (much faster action) and watch a vape video while in bed. Works miracles...

Weird, when I tried sublingual it made my insomnia worse.

Funny how the meds affect us all differently!

 

[Susaz]

For starters, try this. Before you pick up your first cig.
Vape first.....then u can smoke.
When u have that first cup of coffee.
Vape with that first cup, then smoke.
After a meal vape first. If after u want a cig it's ok.
Try just changing your habits......
Do it for 30 days.
Whenever u want a cigarette, vape first.
Then if u want have a cig. Always choose to vape first.
Keep a pack of cigs........
That's what I did believe me I was a hardcore chain smoker.
The more stressed and anxious the more I smoked.
If I could quit anyone can.....
Good luck

This is GREAT advice! Thanks!

 

[bettysue]

My step-daughter has fibro and that's one of the main problems. The doc (arthritis and fibro specialist) has her on meds, including cymbalta but no sleep aides.. I think muscles relaxant, that have her sleeping a full 8 hours. He saysits the main thing that has to be handled in fibro as it will never get better without proper sleep. Cymbalta has really worked wonders for her.

I don't think because I am already on an antidepressant and morphine plus tylenol with codeine for the breakthrough pain that I could add cymbalta to my regime. I may still ask my doctor about it though. Thank you for the advice,

betty

 

[bettysue]

My doctor has already tried giving me that and it didn't do anything, stayed wide awake <sigh>

thank you for the suggestion though

betty

I take Klonopin for insomnia, 3mg. Get a good 7 hours. Trick is to take it an hour before bed and then forget about it, watch a show or read, walk the dog etc. Then goto bed and get those precious zzzzzzzzzzzz's

 

[mkbilbo]

I had thought I was doing good about a month ago but now realize that I'm still smoking the same amount of cigarettes.

I had a thought over the weekend of maybe trying nicotine patches to cut down/quit cigarettes and only vaping when the patch is on.

Has anyone tried this method before? I just don't know what to try next and am extremely frustrated and angry at myself for not being able to transition.

Any help, ideas, thoughts would be greatly appreciated,

thank you,

betty

Skimming through the whole thread, sounds like there's a lot on your plate. I would say, don't beat yourself up about it. I took six weeks to stop smoking entirely. And, last night, almost bought a pack because I had this, "just one!" whining going on in my head. Like some three year old having a fit in my brain.

Watch the "goal" thing. It's too easy to set yourself up. I know I can do that. I'm very good at setting myself up. So when I found this "vaping" thing and found that I could cut way back on smoking, I decided I would not set "goals". I would focus on getting "into" the vaping and enjoying it and let it go where it went. Since I went from 2 packs a day to one pack a week (or even less), I figured if that's where I was stuck and that was as far as I could "go", that was still pretty damn good.

And I have not set myself up by claiming I will never, ever, ever, ever smoke again. I might. And... so what? What if I did go get a pack right now and have one? I will have reached a point of going weeks without any cigs. Which is pretty damn good. And if I don't go get a pack today, that's even better.

Look, this isn't a "race" or "competition". This is about your health. Some people stop smoking the day they start vaping. And that's great. But not everybody does. And so what? Nobody's going to win a prize by stopping faster than anybody else.

Also, smokers tend to smoke when stressed right? So if you get stressed about smoking that's going to push you to... smoke. That's an awful good way to end up going in circles eh?

See what progress you've made, be happy about it, decide where you're going next and see how far you can go. If it takes you longer than somebody else to quit entirely, who cares? This is more a marathon than a sprint. As it were.

 

[bettysue]

For starters, try this. Before you pick up your first cig.
Vape first.....then u can smoke.
When u have that first cup of coffee.
Vape with that first cup, then smoke.
After a meal vape first. If after u want a cig it's ok.
Try just changing your habits......
Do it for 30 days.
Whenever u want a cigarette, vape first.
Then if u want have a cig. Always choose to vape first.
Keep a pack of cigs........
That's what I did believe me I was a hardcore chain smoker.
The more stressed and anxious the more I smoked.
If I could quit anyone can.....
Good luck

Thank you Soba, that sounds like a plan I could do and stick with. As it is I already vape after a meal so I don't bother my hubby with cigarette smoke so that is already one down. I will try your method tomorrow morning and see how it goes.

thank you again for the excellent advice

betty

 

[bettysue]

Skimming through the whole thread, sounds like there's a lot on your plate. I would say, don't beat yourself up about it. I took six weeks to stop smoking entirely. And, last night, almost bought a pack because I had this, "just one!" whining going on in my head. Like some three year old having a fit in my brain.

Watch the "goal" thing. It's too easy to set yourself up. I know I can do that. I'm very good at setting myself up. So when I found this "vaping" thing and found that I could cut way back on smoking, I decided I would not set "goals". I would focus on getting "into" the vaping and enjoying it and let it go where it went. Since I went from 2 packs a day to one pack a week (or even less), I figured if that's where I was stuck and that was as far as I could "go", that was still pretty damn good.

And I have not set myself up by claiming I will never, ever, ever, ever smoke again. I might. And... so what? What if I did go get a pack right now and have one? I will have reached a point of going weeks without any cigs. Which is pretty damn good. And if I don't go get a pack today, that's even better.
Look, this isn't a "race" or "competition". This is about your health. Some people stop smoking the day they start vaping. And that's great. But not everybody does. And so what? Nobody's going to win a prize by stopping faster than anybody else.

Also, smokers tend to smoke when stressed right? So if you get stressed about smoking that's going to push you to... smoke. That's an awful good way to end up going in circles eh?

See what progress you've made, be happy about it, decide where you're going next and see how far you can go. If it takes you longer than somebody else to quit entirely, who cares? This is more a marathon than a sprint. As it were.

Thank you for the great advice as I do tend to beat myself up about the smoking thing and feeling like a failure because I am still smoking cigarettes. I get worse when it's time to ask my husband to pick up another carton for me, which I will have to do today. The result? So far today I haven't vaped and only had cigarettes You are so right about the anxiety issue as I know it makes me smoke more.

thank you again Mark,

betty