Still smoking? You must be mad

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If you’re poor, or have a mental disorder, the logic seems to go, the less likely you are to know what’s good for you. So you’re more likely to continue puffing away than the rest of the population. You are clearly in need of help.

This is priceless. Also, flies in the face of common sense. The more likely explanation is that people without access to adequate healthcare or support are more likely to seek out self medication as a means to alleviate their symptoms. Given the social stigma that mental illness carries, it's not unreasonable to suggest that people with mental / emotional disorders would be more likely to hide their condition opting to manage it with "OTC" "Medications".

The only bit of logic I can get behind here is the intimation that "Substance Abuse" is a symptom of a larger issue. This, however, is my personal experience and I can't speak for anyone else. Certainly not an entire legion of smokers.

Also, the author is on a slippery slope with the whole "Poor People are Stupid" thing...
 

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Also, the author is on a slippery slope with the whole "Poor People are Stupid" thing...
Obviously there's been studies pointing out the majority
of smokers are less educated and fall below the average income levels.

I see this point being made every day in the news
when the topic of smoking is discussed.

Sooo ... Reality TV style media being what it is ...
They just keep hammering smokers are ignorant and poor.
 

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So many quotables in this article. Wow.

But my favorite is this one right here.
As one so-called ‘nicotine-dependency prevention and cessation educator’ puts it: ‘People who have schizophrenia commonly hear voices, while dependent smokers sense want for more nicotine.’
Hearing voices is a hallucination wherein you hear things that aren't being said by anyone. If you're hearing voices, then your perception is not in line with reality. The "sensing of the desire for nicotine" as this person would put it, is an entirely subjective, internalized perception. It's not compatible with the big 5 senses (touch, sight, smell, taste, and hearing.) If you feel that you want something, then you want it! You're not imagining that desire. It is beyond the concrete reality enveloping everything that isn't you. You can "sense want for more nicotine" and still be perfectly in touch with your environment. You are both aware of your surroundings and the fact that you could go for some nic. It's sort of like how wanting a cheeseburger doesn't make you see shadow people. o_O

Furthermore, you can be conflicted over what you want and still be sane. It's not unheard of to want things that are bad for you. Many of the more desirable things in this life are that way. You may be a little neurotic, but you're not psychotic, merely conflicted... ...and human. You are sick with this horrible condition affecting billions of people around the world. All of the afflicted are born with it and it is incurable. It is what's known across the globe as the human condition.

It may be true that people with mental issues are more likely to smoke, but that doesn't mean that being a smoker denotes having a mental disorder. They fail to mention what percentage of smokers as a whole have mental disorders. That's a REALLY big piece of the picture they're conveniently leaving out. For all that I know based on what they said, I could paint a very different picture in my head. Just based on the percentages of entire populations having serious mental disorders, it wouldn't make sense to assume that all smokers might just be crazy, as the truly mentally unsound make up a small minority (in the US, 6% are seriously ill, while a whopping 18% have minor disorders) compared to the percentage of people who smoke (19% in the US) Even if all truly crazy people smoked, they would still be a minority among smokers. Percentages in the UK are not all that different (25% are considered diagnosable [I can't find the number of people in serious need of treatment but I'm assuming it's a considerably smaller number] as mentally ill while 17% smoke.)

But what these ridiculous statistics really suggest to me is that going by percentages of people considered to have any sort of mental disorder isn't a good idea to begin with. More and more people are considered to have treatable mental disorders with each passing year. To me, that doesn't indicate that the world is going crazy. It indicates that we think we are and that too many people are likely receiving diagnoses and treatments they don't need. As diagnostic standards continue to branch out, it is only logical that more and more perfectly sane people are going to be considered mentally ill. The definition has merely changed to include people it previously didn't. It's getting absurd what people are calling "crazy" these days.

People who really believe this crap are the ones who need to get their heads checked.
 
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While watching the news today there was a short piece
on smoking. "How to quit smoking...The Right Way"

They said 70% of those who quit do so "Cold Turkey"
and those who can't go Cold Turkey should try
the FDA Approved losenges, gums, and patches.

They suggested removing the patches at night
because they have a tendency to cause Nightmares !

No mention of the FDA Approved poison ... Chantix
You can just imagine my surprise.

Because BP owns the media and the FDA ...
e-cigarettes were not mentioned as an alternative.
 
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