I went through the chapped lips stage too for first couple months! thought it was just me
Don't set your alarm....believe me when I say... if you drink a pint of water before bedtime you will wake up in about 6 or 7 hours and be ready to GO 
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I went through the chapped lips stage too for first couple months! thought it was just me
Don't set your alarm....believe me when I say... if you drink a pint of water before bedtime you will wake up in about 6 or 7 hours and be ready to GO 
The thought that anything containing sucralose is "pretty healthy" is beyond ridiculous. These chemical cocktails should be avoided, not recommended. It's quite sad actually.
It is a matter of "harm reduction" compared to products containing sugar or aspartame. Lol !
Best avoided, but "less harmful". Sound familiar?
exactly. HFCS not only is the most unhealthy sweetener but it's the epitome of a chemical cocktail. aspartame and saccharine are known to be bad for you. pure cane sugar is about the only thing left but it's still going to make you fat. furthermore if you're diabetic you're screwed. so sucralose is to HFCS what vaping is to cigarettes.
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ironically sucralose is even an additive in some ejuices and diy ejuices
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Sucralose has undergone extensive testing. Despite pop-propaganda it is very safe for consumption and has a high enough decomposition temperature (I think 120C) for vaping.
From Sugar substitutes: Health controversy over perceived benefits
If you ever find yourself looking for a good alternative to a "chemical cocktail" sweetener for vaping I'd recommend Stevia which has a similarly high decomposition temp. But there is no reason to be concerned with sucralose.
Hi Someone3x7
Firstly, I'd just like to say welcome to ECF, I've been following some of your threads/posts, although I may not agree with you on everything, I think it's great when someone comes along and shakes the boat, makes us All think a little harder, with well referenced, resourced documentation.
The problem with sucralose, is we seem to have a few misconceptions (understatement) which have been expressed in the following thread : http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...324277-my-sons-analog-cigs-2.html#post6987394
There are those who seem hell bent in misleading and scaring others by providing sensationalist claptrap and insist we all take it as Gospel.
Thanks! Yeah, I can be over the top at times. But that is more an invitation to prove me wrong, which I don't mind at all.
That's what I used to say...until sucralose and aspartame were identified as the culprits behind a number of strange 'auto immune' problems my body had been manifesting during 15+ years of using artificial sweeteners. Once I stopped the artificial 'FDA approved' sweeteners, allergies cleared up, chronic ear rattling cleared up, skin wounds that wouldn't heal finally cleared up, joint pain went away, vision stabilized to the point I could get a good eyeglass prescription, tongue splits (and taste bud inflammation) cleared up, muscle ticks went away, circulation through hands and feet was restored...I can go on for a few more lines, but I hope you get the idea.
Doctors had attributed most of those problems to 'the aging process', and I BELIEVED THEM. Now I know better. I'll never recommend aspartame or sucralose to anyone, because in my experience, they are an expensive poison that slowly accumulates into subtle discomfort on a variety of levels. Once those symptoms appear, doctors probably won't be able to identify their cause, and will diagnose them as 'auto immune' processes. (Over a period of years, I spent more than $3000 getting the 'auto immune' diagnosis, plus the cost of prescriptions, over the counter meds...plus the continued cost of buying the artificial stuff.) Once I dropped the aspartame and sucralose from my diet, LIFE BECAME PLEASANTLY BEAUTIFUL once again!
(ymmv)At any rate, I HOPE you never experience what I went through...but millions of people ARE affected; many of them don't recognize the connection...yet.
Good luck!
That's what I used to say...until sucralose and aspartame were identified as the culprits behind a number of strange 'auto immune' problems my body had been manifesting during 15+ years of using artificial sweeteners. Once I stopped the artificial 'FDA approved' sweeteners, allergies cleared up, chronic ear rattling cleared up, skin wounds that wouldn't heal finally cleared up, joint pain went away, vision stabilized to the point I could get a good eyeglass prescription, tongue splits (and taste bud inflammation) cleared up, muscle ticks went away, circulation through hands and feet was restored...I can go on for a few more lines, but I hope you get the idea.
Doctors had attributed most of those problems to 'the aging process', and I BELIEVED THEM. Now I know better. I'll never recommend aspartame or sucralose to anyone, because in my experience, they are an expensive poison that slowly accumulates into subtle discomfort on a variety of levels. Once those symptoms appear, doctors probably won't be able to identify their cause, and will diagnose them as 'auto immune' processes. (Over a period of years, I spent more than $3000 getting the 'auto immune' diagnosis, plus the cost of prescriptions, over the counter meds...plus the continued cost of buying the artificial stuff.) Once I dropped the aspartame and sucralose from my diet, LIFE BECAME PLEASANTLY BEAUTIFUL once again!
At any rate, I HOPE you never experience what I went through...but millions of people ARE affected; many of them don't recognize the connection...yet.
Good luck!
It was noted in a number of the studies I read that a small number of people could experience allergic reactions such as joint pain and migraines. Sorry to hear you were one of them
Sorry 'bout that! I'm sure some 'auto immune' process caused me to go off topic.
Forgot to tell ya...I now PEE better, too!
At least we're vaping!
This isn't the first time this thread has appeared here on ECF. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/224426-going-bathroom-more-now-please-chime.html
Don't discount "incomplete emptying" though. Don't laugh, it affects a lot of women (and most often in women who are mothers).
Don't discount "incomplete emptying" though. Don't laugh, it affects a lot of women (and most often in women who are mothers).
Since you need to drink more when vaping, nature takes it's course and it has to go somewhere. It is important to keep hydrated though so please continue with the water.
That's what I used to say...until sucralose and aspartame were identified as the culprits behind a number of strange 'auto immune' problems my body had been manifesting during 15+ years of using artificial sweeteners. Once I stopped the artificial 'FDA approved' sweeteners, allergies cleared up, chronic ear rattling cleared up, skin wounds that wouldn't heal finally cleared up, joint pain went away, vision stabilized to the point I could get a good eyeglass prescription, tongue splits (and taste bud inflammation) cleared up, muscle ticks went away, circulation through hands and feet was restored...I can go on for a few more lines, but I hope you get the idea.
Doctors had attributed most of those problems to 'the aging process', and I BELIEVED THEM. Now I know better. I'll never recommend aspartame or sucralose to anyone, because in my experience, they are an expensive poison that slowly accumulates into subtle discomfort on a variety of levels. Once those symptoms appear, doctors probably won't be able to identify their cause, and will diagnose them as 'auto immune' processes. (Over a period of years, I spent more than $3000 getting the 'auto immune' diagnosis, plus the cost of prescriptions, over the counter meds...plus the continued cost of buying the artificial stuff.) Once I dropped the aspartame and sucralose from my diet, LIFE BECAME PLEASANTLY BEAUTIFUL once again!
At any rate, I HOPE you never experience what I went through...but millions of people ARE affected; many of them don't recognize the connection...yet.
Good luck!
There is EVERY reason to be concerned with sucralose (Splenda). I wrote about it on my blog, The Vaper's Handbook. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/shoganinja/2998-vapers-handbook.html. The stuff is toxic and it stays in your body for a while after you eat it. It was only tested for a VERY SHORT time before it was released to the public at large. The reason I am bringing this up is because it is commonly sold to DIY'rs as "Sweetener". Don't eat, and don't vape sucralose if you know what's good to you and right here, MikenGA, is now my poster child.
P.S. doctors aren't NEARLY as smart as you think they are. They would be even less smart without their reference books and websites. Always get a second or even third opinion in important issues.
That's what I used to say...until sucralose and aspartame were identified as the culprits behind a number of strange 'auto immune' problems my body had been manifesting during 15+ years of using artificial sweeteners. Once I stopped the artificial 'FDA approved' sweeteners, allergies cleared up, chronic ear rattling cleared up, skin wounds that wouldn't heal finally cleared up, joint pain went away, vision stabilized to the point I could get a good eyeglass prescription, tongue splits (and taste bud inflammation) cleared up, muscle ticks went away, circulation through hands and feet was restored...I can go on for a few more lines, but I hope you get the idea.
Doctors had attributed most of those problems to 'the aging process', and I BELIEVED THEM. Now I know better. I'll never recommend aspartame or sucralose to anyone, because in my experience, they are an expensive poison that slowly accumulates into subtle discomfort on a variety of levels. Once those symptoms appear, doctors probably won't be able to identify their cause, and will diagnose them as 'auto immune' processes. (Over a period of years, I spent more than $3000 getting the 'auto immune' diagnosis, plus the cost of prescriptions, over the counter meds...plus the continued cost of buying the artificial stuff.) Once I dropped the aspartame and sucralose from my diet, LIFE BECAME PLEASANTLY BEAUTIFUL once again!
At any rate, I HOPE you never experience what I went through...but millions of people ARE affected; many of them don't recognize the connection...yet.
Good luck!
perhaps you're thinking of aspartame and saccharin? sucralose has only been approved for use in the US for 14 years and has only become popular in the last 5 years as all energy drinks besides red bull use it to sweeten their low calorie versions. it still isnt used in soda, besides a few off brands.
This thread just relieved some worries that I have been having. I'm 60 and have had trouble with bph (benign prostate hyperplasia). I thought the meds had quit working and that the difficulty may have been due to a more serious problem developing. effective immediately, the water and electrolyte intake will be increased substantially and see if that does the trick.
That's what I used to say...until sucralose and aspartame were identified as the culprits behind a number of strange 'auto immune' problems my body had been manifesting during 15+ years of using artificial sweeteners. Once I stopped the artificial 'FDA approved' sweeteners, allergies cleared up, chronic ear rattling cleared up, skin wounds that wouldn't heal finally cleared up, joint pain went away, vision stabilized to the point I could get a good eyeglass prescription, tongue splits (and taste bud inflammation) cleared up, muscle ticks went away, circulation through hands and feet was restored...I can go on for a few more lines, but I hope you get the idea.
Doctors had attributed most of those problems to 'the aging process', and I BELIEVED THEM. Now I know better. I'll never recommend aspartame or sucralose to anyone, because in my experience, they are an expensive poison that slowly accumulates into subtle discomfort on a variety of levels. Once those symptoms appear, doctors probably won't be able to identify their cause, and will diagnose them as 'auto immune' processes. (Over a period of years, I spent more than $3000 getting the 'auto immune' diagnosis, plus the cost of prescriptions, over the counter meds...plus the continued cost of buying the artificial stuff.) Once I dropped the aspartame and sucralose from my diet, LIFE BECAME PLEASANTLY BEAUTIFUL once again!
At any rate, I HOPE you never experience what I went through...but millions of people ARE affected; many of them don't recognize the connection...yet.
Good luck!
I can speak to this, due to a lot of experience, similar outcome as you. I will say this heartily: EVERY body is different. Therefore the "they say...." may be something that will be true for you, or not.
The recognized "gold standard" for {food} allergy is a hypo elimination diet, which took a year out of my life and required tremendous discipline. You start off only eating 7 or 8 foods for about 28 days, and can only add 1 thing in every 72 hours so you can see how this could take a year+.
You keep a journal and you cannot cheat.Long story short, all the chronic and debilitating health problems I had, and for which I was medicated for, resolved. As a matter of fact, in terms of my reflux, all the things they "said" I couldn't eat all those years were not the culprit (OJ, tomatoes, citrus,) but were just the straw that broke the camels back because the REAL offenders for me were 2 other foods. Once those 2 were stopped, I could finally eat everything else! You not only find out what you are sensitive to, but also what foods make YOUR body work most efficiently. (dairy was my killer, not lactose, but the protein in milk; this is how they send you down the wrong path...I was lactose tested and passed, so "they" figured I was okay with dairy...and so I continued to due MAJOR damage for antoher 15 years while taking Nexium to supress the "symptoms". )
The other was wheat gluen (my arthritis is about 80% better now).
Because I know how this works, it can work with ejuice as well. anyone with suspected sensitivity must do this carefully and by process of elim. It could be flavors, it could be PG or VG, it could be the Sucralose or artificial sweetner, etc. You will have to isolate these things and experiment, without cross-contamination.
Which brings me back to sucralose. Since this substance often creates allergenic (inflammatory) responses in some people, it follows that it could create the same responses if it's in e-juice, not just your food.
(And not related to ecigs, but for any kind of chronic condition, find a good nutritionist who is willing to work with you on an allergenic food elmination diet. It changed my life, drastically!) I've been asked by people who are using walker or wheelchairs, or have reflux disease related esophageal damage, and when I would mention not being able to eat stuff, like bread, for months on the experiment, they say stuff like "I could never give up my bread" and I want to say "but you have given up your mobility, you're in a wheelchair." but of course I don't. They have to decide for themselves)
Sucralose may or may not be bad intrinsically, but it could be bad for "you."
Which brings me to next question: HOW do we know which ejuice makers don't use sucralose, and that it is not in the flavors, either.
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