Strep Throat and Carts...Our Health!

[~Jo~]

Ask your doctor.

But honestly, I can't see worrying about it too much. People get strep all the time, and they don't throw out their dishes; they just wash them well.

 

[CatMommy]

Alcohol is effective in killing vegetative bacteria excluding spores and including antibiotic-resistant bacteria, Mycobacterium tuberculosis (the bacteria responsible for tuberculosis), and various fungi but streptococcus need antibiotics to kill it.

But, MRSA IS an antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the "S" stands for Strep.

 

[Joe Camel]

MRSA is a non-socimal infection created in hospitals with so many super microorganisms.
If you want an in depth explanation streptococci is normal commensal flora found in the mouth, intestine and upper respiratory tract, on the skin and even part of making swiss cheese. If alcohol did kill it they wouldn't give you antibiotics with the increasing bacterial antibiotic resistance that's an issue now. Your normal antibodies will kill it in about 5 days but the antibiotics reduce the chance of complications and the duration of it being contagious.

 

[CatMommy]

But, MRSA IS an antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the "S" stands for Strep.

Sorry, my mistake...the "S" stands for Staph.

 

[CatMommy]

Actually, I think the antibiotic resistant microorganisms came to be due to the OVERUSE of antibiotics...

 

[Joe Camel]

Antibiotic resistant ones did yes, but MRSA is a nonsocial infection which you catch in a hospital or someone who got it from a hospital

 

[simage]

I have enough carts that I can put them aside for at least a week or so with being sick I never re get it after being sick. but I would recommend at least boiling for about 3 min to sterilize otherwise.

 

[simage]

I have a child and boiling new bottles and passifiers they recommend 3 min of boiling

 

[Joe Camel]

Unless you can somehow get your water to 134 °C, 273 °F (which I don't think you can on a stove) it won't kill all bacteria or viruses in 3 minutes. It takes 15 minutes at 121 °C 250 °F. Water starts to boil at 100 °C 212 °F so I'd go for 15 minutes at a bare minimum.

 

[Joe Camel]

And that's at sea level. The higher your altitude the more heat it takes.

 

[simage]

Unless you can somehow get your water to 134 °C, 273 °F (which I don't think you can on a stove) it won't kill all bacteria or viruses in 3 minutes. It takes 15 minutes at 121 °C 250 °F. Water starts to boil at 100 °C 212 °F so I'd go for 15 minutes at a bare minimum.[/QUOTE

Your completely right..sorry..I think they say 3 on baby stuff because it
kills alot but 212 if you need something even more sterile..(education is amazing... thats why I google) good call joe camel that is very accurate!

 

[JelliBean]

OK, the grand baby has come home from daycare with Strep Throat. She is a huggy-loving child and has passed it on to me 8-o. She is finishing her antibiotics and I am just starting mine. I understand this infection can be very dangerous, can move to areas deeper in your body and it is very easy to re-infect yourself. I'm curious if boiling my carts will keep me from getting re-infected or do I need to throw out all of my used carts and begin again with new ones? I know that the end caps can't be boiled or they melt so I'm guessing that if I boil I will need to do without end caps.
Does anyone have any experience with avoiding re-infection via carts and avoiding re-infection in general?

To be honest, I think the best thing for you would be to get rid of the cartos, and stop vaping for a few days. If I'm not mistaken it takes48 hour for the antibiotic to protect you from reinfection. So, once you are allowed by the doctor to reenter the community...hehehe then vaping should also be a go too, just my two-cents.

 

[Desertfremen]

I personally think you do not need to throw away your carts. In fact, I don't think you really need to do much of anything with your carts other than leave them alone for a day.

A 30% concentration of PG in fresh tryptic soy broth is potent enough to kill Staphylococcus aureus, Candida albicans, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Streptococcus mitis, E. coli and Streptococcus pyogenes A w/in 20 hrs. (in vitro.) (Acta Derm Venereol. 1991;71(2):148-50)

Since the PG content of the juice is MUCH higher than 30% I really would not be worried about re-infection. However, this does not apply to VG.

If VG juices are what your vaping then I'd highly reccommend boiling the carts (minimum 15 min.) and washing and/or soaking the o-rings/mouthpieces in antibacterial soap. In this case though I think it would be worth it just to toss and buy new carts.

 

[LastOutlaw]

Yup, I don't want to chance it...this bug sukz big time and the last thing I want to do is get it again and give it back to the little one. I've taken Steve's advice and ordered new carts and a couple sample bottles of juice to refill with. Cant afford to get much so I'm getting what I can to make it through.
Thanks all.

 

[SMILIN]

Yup, I don't want to chance it...this bug sukz big time and the last thing I want to do is get it again and give it back to the little one. I've taken Steve's advice and ordered new carts and a couple sample bottles of juice to refill with. Cant afford to get much so I'm getting what I can to make it through.
Thanks all.

Make a note in comments section, and I getcha a little extra to getcha tru

Steve

 

[JelliBean]

Yup, I don't want to chance it...this bug sukz big time and the last thing I want to do is get it again and give it back to the little one. I've taken Steve's advice and ordered new carts and a couple sample bottles of juice to refill with. Cant afford to get much so I'm getting what I can to make it through.
Thanks all.

Glad to hear that. Getting sick happens to us all. I had complications with the "Swine Flu" in December. I agree get rid of the ones (cartos) you have used, that's what I did. Plus, I was so sick that I didn't really feel like Vaping. After being on antibiotics a few days you are no longer contagious, when you reach that point you can Vape on without concern, trust. Anyhoo, I am a Strepthroat Champion... And when it feels like broken glass is being inhaled just to talk or eat, I am sure you aren't feeling like vaping much, and you shouldn't. When the antibiotics kick in and you don't feel that glass cutting your trach. tube... feeling, you are probably no longer contaminated, and should be able to vape again.
Seriously, if it's painful why do it? When it's not, you are more than likely no longer able to infect others (or reinfect youself). Hope that helps!!

 

[CatMommy]

What do you vape Outlaw?

I've got some minty/menthol-y carts (in 11 and 18 I think). A friend bought them and gave them to me, but minty cartz just aren't my thing.
If you would use them, let me know.

 

[Adrenalynn]

I see some confusion betwixt Group A Strep and GBS in some posts... Both Gram Positive, but very different classes of bugs. Regardless, when it comes time for me to clean something possibly infectious with a typical Gram Positive like that - I'm going to the Lysol every time. Alcohol is great in a pinch, but Lysol, evap, wipe, alcohol dip is so close to 100% that it's not even worth thinkin' bout.

That said - I don't think you're going to effectively disinfect that batting without destroying it. Toss 'em. They're disposable. Disinfect your batteries with Lysol, but don't let it run into the battery guts.

(And I believe you're looking for "nosocomial", not "non-socomial" (NOT in a hospital) or "nonsocial". Not picking on you or anything [really!] - people will probably just find it easier to look up with the correction. I knew what you meant. )

 

[JelliBean]

I see some confusion betwixt Group A Strep and GBS in some posts... Both Gram Positive, but very different classes of bugs. Regardless, when it comes time for me to clean something possibly infectious with a typical Gram Positive like that - I'm going to the Lysol every time. Alcohol is great in a pinch, but Lysol, evap, wipe, alcohol dip is so close to 100% that it's not even worth thinkin' bout.

That said - I don't think you're going to effectively disinfect that batting without destroying it. Toss 'em. They're disposable. Disinfect your batteries with Lysol, but don't let it run into the battery guts.

(And I believe you're looking for "nosocomial", not "non-socomial" (NOT in a hospital) or "nonsocial". Not picking on you or anything [really!] - people will probably just find it easier to look up with the correction. I knew what you meant. )

Wow! Thanks Adrenalynn! But, Strep throat is a bacteria, it is not a virus, and therefore antibiotics are prescribed. Just so you understand most people already knew what he meant, and that you pretty much kept it consistant with what we had already said. Moreover, get rid of the cartos. Thanks for making no difference in the grand scheme of things. On a positive note, if you understood everything that you googled then you wouldn't appear so crasp. Let's not mix words or scientific methods, you wish you had half the common sense people in this Sub-forum have. Hence, your need to attempt to belittle those that may infact not know the "JARGON"!! But, remember, that's all it is. Gram positive and negative, cute if you are into micro biology, or the laboratory scientist field. However, useless in the e-cig. Forum where mathmatical, scientific, statistical...etc. JARGON is not an indication of itelligence. Infact, it's just another way for you to use Jargon to make yourself feel better. Next time elaborate on what you are trying to convey witout your googled JARGON... smile.

 

[Adrenalynn]

>>Wow! Thanks Adrenalynn! But, Strep throat is a bacteria, it is not a virus, and therefore antibiotics are prescribed.

Lysol kills bacteria. 99.9% + where Strep Group A is concerned, in point-of-fact. 99.999% for MRSA (A Staph strain), since it was mentioned. Recommended for both, in fact, by the CDC, and approved for that use by the EPA.

>> you wouldn't appear so crasp.

Your inability to grasp what I write is your failing, not mine.

>> Let's not mix words or scientific methods

Given your capacities for retention of even one - your unwillingness to mix them is unsurprising.

>> cute if you are into micro biology

Quite, actually. Virology, specifically. Vector, more specifically. Something of a hobby...

>> JARGON is not an indication of itelligence.

I'm sure you can agree that the ability to SPELL 'intelligence' would generally be considered a prime indicator...

>> Next time elaborate on what you are trying to convey witout your googled JARGON... smile.

I elaborate upon what I'm trying to convey just fine, "wit or witout" [sic] reference material, thanks!

As far as what I understand or don't - you're making assumptions that underscore your ignorance.

When you develop even some modicum of literacy, and understand the most basic salient points of a topic under discussion, well then feel free to go ahead and attack me again... In the meanwhile, thanks for the laugh...

Wow! Thanks Adrenalynn! But, Strep throat is a bacteria, it is not a virus, and therefore antibiotics are prescribed. Just so you understand most people already knew what he meant, and that you pretty much kept it consistant with what we had already said. Moreover, get rid of the cartos. Thanks for making no difference in the grand scheme of things. On a positive note, if you understood everything that you googled then you wouldn't appear so crasp. Let's not mix words or scientific methods, you wish you had half the common sense people in this Sub-forum have. Hence, your need to attempt to belittle those that may infact not know the "JARGON"!! But, remember, that's all it is. Gram positive and negative, cute if you are into micro biology, or the laboratory scientist field. However, useless in the e-cig. Forum where mathmatical, scientific, statistical...etc. JARGON is not an indication of itelligence. Infact, it's just another way for you to use Jargon to make yourself feel better. Next time elaborate on what you are trying to convey witout your googled JARGON... smile.