Sucralose - toxic/carcinogen forming when heated

[ColinD]

Health Hazards Associated with Splenda Consumption

 

[LoveVanilla]

Thanks. Damn, is it time to ditch the Ez-Sweet (i.e. sucralose liquid)?

 

[ukeman]

wow i just got this newsletter tonight… thanks for putting this out:

what i'm worried about is which juices, which vendors, and even flavorings for DIY have sucralose? (most DIY flavors wouldn't since you ADD sweetener).

Mercola.com is cutting edge of nutritional health information imo.

* since moving into rba's, sub ohms vaping, many vapers have lowered their nic %, but upped their juice consumption, meaning the ingredients are important.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

use this instead.

ethyl maltol crystals
most diy vendors sell it.

 

[DrMA]

Here we go with the "aspartame controversy" all over again, this time applied to sucralose. Before you put on your tin foil hat and start living off the grid, read what the risks of dihydrogen monoxide are and weigh them against those of sucralose. Most e-liquid contains about 10% dihydrogen monoxide, which is a known contaminant of both PG and VG from the manufacturing process.

 

[Sdh]

I use Splenda. I have no fears.

 

[rvc]

Mercola is against using e cigarettes. I use Stevia for my DIY mixes.

 

[DigitalKnight]

Aspartame has shown some not so nice results.

Genotoxicity testing of low-calorie sweete... [Drug Chem Toxicol. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

 

[ColinD]

And you should actually do some solid internet reading before spreading that ridiculous hoax.

Dihydrogen monoxide hoax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We live in a world of disinformation -the last people I would believe are big Pharma, FDA, or any of the giants in food production in USA. My tin foil hat is staying right where it should be - on my head.

Its like the articles that are anti vaping ALL mention that glycol is used in anti freeze - well salt is an anti freeze agent. Disinformation right the way down the line.

Here we go with the "aspartame controversy" all over again, this time applied to sucralose. Before you put on your tin foil hat and start living off the grid, read what the risks of dihydrogen monoxide are and weigh them against those of sucralose. Most e-liquid contains about 10% dihydrogen monoxide, which is a known contaminant of both PG and VG from the manufacturing process.

 

[DigitalKnight]

Here we go with the "aspartame controversy" all over again, this time applied to sucralose. Before you put on your tin foil hat and start living off the grid, read what the risks of dihydrogen monoxide are and weigh them against those of sucralose. Most e-liquid contains about 10% dihydrogen monoxide, which is a known contaminant of both PG and VG from the manufacturing process.

Here's a couple of National Institute of Health studies that show it can cause neurological and genetic effects. Maybe those tin foil hats are working.
"Aspartame/adverse effects" - PubMed - NCBI[MAJR]

 

[ColinD]

I have a fairly good idea that it is going to be many of them. Good Life Vapors uses sucralose and I am sure a good many more do as well. I am going to DIY fully next year. Liquid Stevia will be my sweetener of choice after having done the research.

wow i just got this newsletter tonight… thanks for putting this out:

what i'm worried about is which juices, which vendors, and even flavorings for DIY have sucralose? (most DIY flavors wouldn't since you ADD sweetener).

Mercola.com is cutting edge of nutritional health information imo.

* since moving into RBA's, sub ohms vaping, many vapers have lowered their nic %, but upped their juice consumption, meaning the ingredients are important.

 

[DrMA]

For those that didn't pick up on it, dihydrogen monoxide, chemical formula H2O, is actually water. And by putting it in the same post as the sucralose comment, I was indeed equating the scientific merit of both controversies, IMO.

As for the aspartame studies with cell cultures: gotta be careful with the interpretation of those, as they test unrealistic exposure conditions. Do you know what happens if you expose cell cultures to dihydrogen monoxide? The cells balloon up and burst . Does that mean that drinking water is going to make you explode?

 

[AgentAnia]

I use sucralose to sweeten a few of my DIY liquids. By seat-of-the-pants calculation I figure I've inhaled about 10-12 drops worth of sucralise vapor over the past 8 months. I'm still alive, and healthy. I am not worried.

 

[patkin]

I can only state my own personal experience. I'm diabetic and have used Splenda/Sucralose since it came out with no adverse health effects including elevated blood sugars. However, asparatame and some of the other sweeteners including Stevia do cause tinnitus for me... very loud tinnitus. It took years for me to discover what was causing it during which time it built up in my tissue so it took about a month after stopping its use for the tinnitus to go away. The only ill effect I've ever experienced with sucralose is a bathroom one but only if I way, way, overdo it. The Splenda that comes in the yellow bag and is measured like sugar spoon or cup for cup will raise my BS slightly but that's not due to sucralose but to the maltodextrin filler used to give it that cup for cup volume. There is such a small amount of maltodextrin in the individual packets that it has never raised my BS.

Edit: would I endorse the banning of any of these products? A most emphatic NO! Different folks, different strokes. I would be super, super, angry if ANYONE denied me the use of ANY sweetener leaving me only sugar/honey, etc. How does that help a diabetic? Just live your freakin life and leave mine alone!!!!

 

[2coils]

* since moving into RBA's, sub ohms vaping, many vapers have lowered their nic %, but upped their juice consumption, meaning the ingredients are important.

Agreed! We DO have to know what is in our liquids. I would like to make informed choices as to what ingredients I want to inhale. Having said that..... We also have to remember this is harm reduction not elimination. We have to keep this in perspective and compare to the results of combustible cigarette toxins.

 

[Sdh]

http://www.splendaprofessional.com/sites/default/files/common/Sucralose_Study.pdf

 

[vewdew]

Well now all of you need to stop eating barbecued meats since the burned part also causes cancer do to carcinogens forming on your body after comsuption.

matter of fact stop everything since even the air can kill you.

Same worry to much.

 

[vewdew]

But in the other hand this topics do make me laugh, before you used to inhale 3000 quimicals that could cause cancer now you worry about 2 or 3.

I was more worried when I consumed 3000 of them 20 times a day.

 

[rothenbj]

Here we go with the "aspartame controversy" all over again, this time applied to sucralose. Before you put on your tin foil hat and start living off the grid, read what the risks of dihydrogen monoxide are and weigh them against those of sucralose. Most e-liquid contains about 10% dihydrogen monoxide, which is a known contaminant of both PG and VG from the manufacturing process.

Yeah, I heard on the morning news that your safe up to something like 21 cans of aspartame sodas per day. I thought that was rather funny as I considered how much caffeine you could feed your addiction with in that many cans.

 

[Jay-dub]

But in the other hand this topics do make me laugh, before you used to inhale 3000 quimicals that could cause cancer now you worry about 2 or 3.

I'd prefer to make fair comparisons so your statement, though appreciated, isn't exactly true. You're comparing the chemicals in cigs to the ingredients in vapors. The actual tally on how many chemicals are in e-liquid depends on what e-liquid your testing from what vendor with what flavors. Yes, even in a chemical comparison I believe that e-liquid would be found to have way less than cigs. The important thing is one has up to forty known carcinogens while the other has none*. Guess which is which?

*apparently unless you're using sucralose