halo! bah humbug on that reward catalog. the places I've used "rewards" let you pick what you wanted on the site, I am another vote to rethink your program!
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halo! bah humbug on that reward catalog. the places I've used "rewards" let you pick what you wanted on the site, I am another vote to rethink your program!
Just throwing out that I would like some non-metal drip tips. I find that I taste the metal with them and I just can't stand when they hit my teeth. Worse than finger nails on a chalk board. lol
Anyway, I'd love if Halo would offer acrylic or delrin drip tips. I don't know which is better, but anything non-metallic would be wonderful!
Anyway, I'd love if Halo would offer acrylic or delrin drip tips. I don't know which is better, but anything non-metallic would be wonderful!
Ummm.... I just saw this and checked the rewards catalog. Very disappointing. My adv, Torque, is also missing. I'm not shopping Halo because i expect to be rewarded for it, but if you're going to reward brand loyalty it would be nice to get the product you want.
Maybe changing up the rewards catalog would be interesting. This month all menthols available, next month gourmet, the month after mini tanks etc. etc. etc. might be fun and keep people interested.
(side note. just received my first 30 mil bottle of Torque. Perfect right out of the box.)
Keep up the good work Halo and thanks for considering our suggestions.
I don't see why all flavors can't be in the rewards catalog. If someone's got an adv that isn't there, what's the point? Very frustrated about it personally. I got a bottle of Mystic with my rewards; it's close to Menthol Ice, but it's not the same.
I wonder if halo reads this thread!
Cinder Ella reads and sometimes replies. Doesn't mean it'll change anything. I just don't see why every flavor can't be available. I mean, is there any harm in it? Do certain flavors cost too much to give one away after you've bought 10 30ml bottles of it? Bush League IMO.
Gang, I see your points to a greater or lesser degree. I'm just a customer with no ties to Halo and would never be called a fan boy. PERIOD! Iv'e also had my own growing pains issues with Halo but they got worked out.
However, their is always another side to the coin and in this case I'm just playing the devils advocate because I LIKE some of the ideas. Respectfully, please follow my drift based on a few decades of running my own businesses: WE are in a bubble and a few companies like Halo/partner Jeff Stamler are making tons of money and I'm happy for them. Obviously, they make great ejuice and great hunks of hardware that just works period and darn well. I'm assuming they know this and they also know what the competition is doing. You don't reach this level of success without a keen knowledge and vigilance of your competition. So we/US talk to the powers to be at Halo nation about our ideas and their thinking: why should I due this or that? Who else is doing this or that and what is this companies position in the marketplace and how long have they been at it? Are they a threat to my model? Want some proof of things you MUST do to build a brand and establish your company? All of which Halo has ALREADY done.
Lets roll back the clock to Jan of 2010 when they were just getting started. What if I told my fellow Vapors that back then and I quote:
"SPECIAL: FREE 10ML e-liquid sample bottle with all online purchases." and the proof on the site in Jan of 2010 at:
Electronic Cigarette by Halo
Why bother today? I'm already king of the hill. Not true as the Halo powers to be also clearly understand as all smart business geeks understand that bubbles have a limited life and then they burst so somewhere between one exstreme and the other owners have to find a happy balance which is really very very tough since your making money hand over fist. I myself made some mistakes in my strugle with this very issue. Rationally and respectfully make your case with real data outside your own thoughts and that always gets their attention.
BTW, those limited selection of ejuice for my reward points bugs the h e l l out of me
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However, their is always another side to the coin and in this case I'm just playing the devils advocate because I LIKE some of the ideas. Respectfully, please follow my drift based on a few decades of running my own businesses: WE are in a bubble and a few companies like Halo/partner Jeff Stamler are making tons of money and I'm happy for them. Obviously, they make great ejuice and great hunks of hardware that just works period and darn well. I'm assuming they know this and they also know what the competition is doing. You don't reach this level of success without a keen knowledge and vigilance of your competition. So we/US talk to the powers to be at Halo nation about our ideas and their thinking: why should I due this or that? Who else is doing this or that and what is this companies position in the marketplace and how long have they been at it? Are they a threat to my model? Want some proof of things you MUST do to build a brand and establish your company? All of which Halo has ALREADY done.
Lets roll back the clock to Jan of 2010 when they were just getting started. What if I told my fellow Vapors that back then and I quote:
"SPECIAL: FREE 10ML e-liquid sample bottle with all online purchases." and the proof on the site in Jan of 2010 at:
Electronic Cigarette by Halo
Why bother today? I'm already king of the hill. Not true as the Halo powers to be also clearly understand as all smart business geeks understand that bubbles have a limited life and then they burst so somewhere between one exstreme and the other owners have to find a happy balance which is really very very tough since your making money hand over fist. I myself made some mistakes in my strugle with this very issue. Rationally and respectfully make your case with real data outside your own thoughts and that always gets their attention.
BTW, those limited selection of ejuice for my reward points bugs the h e l l out of me
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No need to duck for cover. I genuinely don't think they're making money "hand over fist." It may seem like a lot of people are buying Halo stuff, but there's a lot of overhead, and vaping isn't mainstream. Halo isn't making Big Tobacco money. Big tobacco probably makes more in a day than Halo does all year. Hell, I bet Phillip Morris makes more in a month than all the non-Big Tobacco vape businesses combined make all year.
I'm just aggravated that the one flavor I want isn't available through rewards points. It's not like it's some custom mix, small batch, limited amount, etc. flavor. I'm pretty sure Menthol Ice is a staple. If you ask the non-Halo posters what Halo's known for, they'll tell you Yribecca and their menthols. Pretty sure Menthol Ice is their most popular menthol too. Why it's not available is mind boggling.
I'll still buy it. I'll quit complaining about after this post. But why have certain flavors not available is just stupid.
I'm just aggravated that the one flavor I want isn't available through rewards points. It's not like it's some custom mix, small batch, limited amount, etc. flavor. I'm pretty sure Menthol Ice is a staple. If you ask the non-Halo posters what Halo's known for, they'll tell you Yribecca and their menthols. Pretty sure Menthol Ice is their most popular menthol too. Why it's not available is mind boggling.
I'll still buy it. I'll quit complaining about after this post. But why have certain flavors not available is just stupid.
Respectfully, I think we may need to agree to disagree but I support your idea. Comparing the CORPORATE earnings of big tobacco to The Trident Group Llc dba Halo is really apples and oranges within the context of our discussion. Of course, if we broke out the respective "cig like" divisions of big tobacco then that would be relevant to our discussion but I'm unaware of any real data about gross revenues and pre tax net for the respective "cig like" divisions (NOT the corporate earnings total) ,stuff like Blu etc.
You can still make LOTS of MONEY and I mean hand over fist even with "..,but there's a lot of overhead, and vaping isn't mainstream" Plenty of huge markups in this industry and I'm not critical of Halo. I won't post examples comparing product retail costs because that would not be appropriate. Overhead is a fact of life and is only PART of the pre tax net formula. The same can be said for our little niche.
Fair use extraction and a DIRECT quote from one of the owners:
"“We’re doing a lot of things now that are not required of us because we want to provide a safer product for people and because when regulation does come, we want to be the first ones back on line, or the last ones standing when it happens,” says Jeffrey Stamler, co-owner of Halo, which has 24,000 square feet of new office space and 31 employees, with plans to hire more. "
Source: E-cigarettes ignite a debate over the safety of liquid nicotine | NJ.com -
The above article is a great read and should underscore the fact that all of us have hitched our carts to a great company and a premier player in this niche. Not perfect and like every single business in a bubble, some issue to work on. If we step back and look we can see that for better or worse: people mix/sell ejuice out of their kitchen. LOL Lots of hardware vendors work out of their house. Brick and Mortar operations are normally around 600 square feet roughly. Certainly their are rare exceptions and what others produce/sell may still be great and that's fine because it's a bubble. However, a privately held ecig vendor with 24K square feet and 31 employees is RARE, HUGE and a GREAT sign for all of us.
I'm going to perform some research on what other vendors let a buyer use their rewards points for with links and data. Is it restricted? Is it everything they sell? I have no clue. IF it supports our desires, you can bet your bippy I will send PMs, emails, and faxes to all.
Good luck to all
Comparing the CORPORATE earnings of big tobacco to The Trident Group Llc dba Halo is really apples and oranges within the context of our discussion. Of course, if we broke out the respective "cig like" divisions of big tobacco then that would be relevant to our discussion but I'm unaware of any real data about gross revenues and pre tax net for the respective "cig like" divisions (NOT the corporate earnings total) ,stuff like Blu etc.You can still make LOTS of MONEY and I mean hand over fist even with "..,but there's a lot of overhead, and vaping isn't mainstream" Plenty of huge markups in this industry and I'm not critical of Halo. I won't post examples comparing product retail costs because that would not be appropriate. Overhead is a fact of life and is only PART of the pre tax net formula. The same can be said for our little niche.
Fair use extraction and a DIRECT quote from one of the owners:
"“We’re doing a lot of things now that are not required of us because we want to provide a safer product for people and because when regulation does come, we want to be the first ones back on line, or the last ones standing when it happens,” says Jeffrey Stamler, co-owner of Halo, which has 24,000 square feet of new office space and 31 employees, with plans to hire more. "
Source: E-cigarettes ignite a debate over the safety of liquid nicotine | NJ.com -
The above article is a great read and should underscore the fact that all of us have hitched our carts to a great company and a premier player in this niche. Not perfect and like every single business in a bubble, some issue to work on. If we step back and look we can see that for better or worse: people mix/sell ejuice out of their kitchen. LOL Lots of hardware vendors work out of their house. Brick and Mortar operations are normally around 600 square feet roughly. Certainly their are rare exceptions and what others produce/sell may still be great and that's fine because it's a bubble. However, a privately held ecig vendor with 24K square feet and 31 employees is RARE, HUGE and a GREAT sign for all of us.
I'm going to perform some research on what other vendors let a buyer use their rewards points for with links and data. Is it restricted? Is it everything they sell? I have no clue. IF it supports our desires, you can bet your bippy I will send PMs, emails, and faxes to all.
Good luck to all
Well,this thread went off to left field... and I'm not a baseball fan. I fell asleep in the outfield playing tee ball as a kid.
Anywho, back to suggestions. As a customer that has become a Halo fan, I would love a Halo bumper sticker or decal for my e-cig carrying case.
Anywho, back to suggestions. As a customer that has become a Halo fan, I would love a Halo bumper sticker or decal for my e-cig carrying case.
Suggestion: None of your hardware natively supports the "emerging" standard which is eGo and 510 threading. NO, I'm not interested in using an adapter because it's mickey mouse, looks yuky, and folks tell me they don't work. Why should I when lots of reliable vendors already sell this emerging standard. I could give you several examples of hardware which is much more advanced than your 808 stuff and if you look at R and D (new devices - think Innokin) for the industry you can see exactly how this issue appears to be developing.
Here is just one example: Released a few months ago is the "eGo-V V2" which is a much more advanced VV/Twist than what you currently offer. The key features which I love is a refined and easy to use/read UI on the screen at the bottom of the bat to set/see the volts and see the remaining power via a battery meter. ONLY two buttons on either side of the screen. A home run and does not require a PHD in engr to use. LOL Accurate/set in small steps from 3.0-6.0 volts. Pass through charging. Giant capacity as in 1200 Mah, and 10 second auto cut off.
I'm not suggesting that you end of life your current hardware since it's great stuff. What I am suggesting is that you launch another product line
Here is just one example: Released a few months ago is the "eGo-V V2" which is a much more advanced VV/Twist than what you currently offer. The key features which I love is a refined and easy to use/read UI on the screen at the bottom of the bat to set/see the volts and see the remaining power via a battery meter. ONLY two buttons on either side of the screen. A home run and does not require a PHD in engr to use. LOL Accurate/set in small steps from 3.0-6.0 volts. Pass through charging. Giant capacity as in 1200 Mah, and 10 second auto cut off.
I'm not suggesting that you end of life your current hardware since it's great stuff. What I am suggesting is that you launch another product line
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PM me your order number next time you place an order and I'll include a few stickers for you
Well,this thread went off to left field... and I'm not a baseball fan. I fell asleep in the outfield playing tee ball as a kid.
Anywho, back to suggestions. As a customer that has become a Halo fan, I would love a Halo bumper sticker or decal for my e-cig carrying case.
I will look into why all the flavors are not included in the rewards points catalog. Im sure there is a reason as to why a few were left out. I'll let you know what i find out!
Good News! Looks like there is a strong possibility that Menthol Ice and Torque will be added to the rewards catalog! Stay tuned, I will confirm ASAP!
Awesome, thanks, Cinder Ella! I'll probably place an order in the next day or so. I already started building my cart with a few G6 batteries and some Midnight Apple. Somehow, I managed to forget to try that one, but I've heard it's good.
I'm waiting on Freedom Juice to steep. I read it takes a few days and my initial reaction was "meh." If I don't change my mind on it, I still want to get some Tiki Juice and probably some 18mg juice for when I'm really wanting an analogue. Still undecided on that idea, though.
Heck, I might get impatient and place my order today. lol
I'm waiting on Freedom Juice to steep. I read it takes a few days and my initial reaction was "meh." If I don't change my mind on it, I still want to get some Tiki Juice and probably some 18mg juice for when I'm really wanting an analogue. Still undecided on that idea, though.
Heck, I might get impatient and place my order today. lol
PM me your order number next time you place an order and I'll include a few stickers for you
I got my order today with a bunch of STICKERS! Call me "Nature Boy" because I be stylin' and profilin'!
Thanks, Cinder Ella.
Thanks, Cinder Ella.
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