Suggestions on new device?

[stols001]

Unless you are a high wattage vaper, well, the Legend may be overkill. It's fantastic and I love mine (it was also free) but I don't take it out and about really, due to like, it's heaviness. I'd thinik the Ages would be fine instead . If you want wonderful TC, I really think the Jaq B sandstorm may be your best bet. I have an epfro 101 tube and it's okay.... It's no provari, but it's okay. Build quality is fairly nice, I don't like the button much, but I have adjusted.

There are a jillion mods that could suit your purposes but if you are looking for accurate TC, I think a dna box may be your best bet. I am partial to the lost vape Mirage (single battery) although I have yet to buy one.

I really need to buy one. I like it's looks and I'm fairly sure it would be a great vape. Etc.

Anna

 

[Heartsdelight]

The Geekvape Aegis TC Box mod is a great mod but it seems to only take 18650 or 26650. The kit version I believe has a battery cap adapter to allow 21700 batteries as well. I wonder if the non kit version has that battery cap adapter as well?

It’s not included but you can purchase it separately, I did. Now it can use all the battery sizes with a change of the battery cover.

 

[bombastinator]

I appreciate all the advice. At this point, I'm mostly looking at the Aegis 100w, and their newer Aegis Legend 200w. Leaning towards the 200w Legend.

One thing I notice is that when I think of 18650 batteries, I think button tops. Those worked with my provari, so I have numerous "extra" batteries that still work, they just don't hold a charge like a new battery. And I have several high end flashlights that use them. (If you want a good flashlight, and haven't seen an 18650 powered LED flashlight, you'll be amazed.)

But I'm guessing that button tops won't work with these and I'll need to move to flat tops. I can do that, it's just not what I'd consider ideal.

The "legend" version is dual 18650's. That may be great, but way-back-when, there were a lot of problems with mods that used stacked batteries. It simply made things less safe. Should that be a concern with the Aegis Legend? If it's not, then the dual batteries means needing to swap out less often, and I sure like that part.

I don't know why I would need 100w, much less 200w, but I plan to use this thing for a long time, and wouldn't want to buy it, then find some reason later that I wanted the higher wattage limits.

I may stick with the Aspire Nautilus tanks I've been using, but while I'm upgrading, I'd consider options on that too. I know I want something simple that just works. I don't want to tinker with it, and I'm not going to roll my own coils or anything similar to that. Easy to refill, consistent vape, tuff enough to handle most drops, those are all high priority with me.

Several people have mentioned MTL, but I don't know what that means.

Well that got me to open my battery doors. Neither the legend nor the origional has a spring base so there’s very little play in battery length. The origional has a screw cap bottom though so if you just need an extra mm there’s a decent chance it will work. Might on the legend too. I’m just guessing.
MTL means Mouth To Lung. Basically it’s how you vape now. A provari is MTL. There are two others:
DL, Direct Lung, which is what those folks who make the BIIG clouds do it, and RDL which is Restricted DL.
Stacking batteries in a VV mod no longer an issue.

 

[tdman77]

Dicodes if you are looking for tube type. Like Provari but super upgraded. For me any mod with the DNA75c or DNA 250c chip. Stay away from Geekvape mods unless you only vape in VW mode.

 

[bombastinator]

Dicodes if you are looking for tube type. Like Provari but super upgraded. For me any mod with the DNA75c or DNA 250c chip. Stay away from Geekvape mods unless you only vape in VW mode.

*pulls his geekvape legend running in VW mode out of his mouth to type*
Um.. could you expand on that please?

 

[englishmick]

I just went to Vapor Range to check out the Colossal. When I finished reading about the Package Contents, I also read their specific info. about batteries to be used in the Colossal (because of its positive contact protector). Then, I read their Product Disclaimer - Battery Warning. I've bought from Vapor Range quite a few times, and I'd read it before, but can't say I remember seeing the sort of "unusual info" that's in it now. Have you read it, Mick? If you haven't, take a peek and see what you think? First time I've seen anything like it on a vaping vendor's website.

I saw that when I bought my Colossal a few weeks ago. I was so amazed that I copied it. Had to retype it in myself, they had set it up as an image or something so you couldn't copy and paste the text. I posted it here somewhere. Since I saw it the first time it's changed, they expanded it and put in a bunch more lawyer talk at the bottom. My guess is it wasn't actually written by a lawyer. I doubt that stuff about decorative purposes only would hold up in court.

 

[Letitia]

FDA paranoia is spreading quickly among the vaping vendors, we will start seeing more of these statements on their sites.

 

[tdman77]

*pulls his geekvape legend running in VW mode out of his mouth to type*
Um.. could you expand on that please?

The two Aegis mods I own are terrible at TC. I only use them for VW. Not sure if their TCR curve is messed up or if their resistance monitoring while running just can't cope. Don get me wrong, for VW vaping I use them alot. Any time you find me in the garage or out side the house there is an Aegis near me or in my hand. But when I am chill'in in the house and want to enjoy a good vape the mod I always grab is my Paranormal.

 

[bombastinator]

FDA paranoia is spreading quickly among the vaping vendors, we will start seeing more of these statements on their sites.

Interesting. I wonder who’s spreading it.

I’ve seen an uptick in anti FDA statements here lately following the JUUL purchase. It’s the same guy heading it and he’s a solid right republican and a Trump appointee to boot. You’d think “regulatory overreach” wouldn’t be much of an issue here.

Everything is starting to smell of big tobacco to me again.

 

[bombastinator]

The two Aegis mods I own are terrible at TC. I only use them for VW. Not sure if their TCR curve is messed up or if their resistance monitoring while running just can't cope. Don get me wrong, for VW vaping I use them alot. Any time you find me in the garage or out side the house there is an Aegis near me or in my hand. But when I am chill'in in the house and want to enjoy a good vape the mod I always grab is my Paranormal.

Aha. I may be able to help a bit. Maybe.
When both mods first came out their firmware was less than great. Battery life and TC issues mostly. Firmware updates helped immensely with these. It might be checking your firmware version and seeing how current you are. Checking is easy. Turn off your mod, and with the batteries in it hold the plus button. Firmware version should be displayed.

If it turns out you have to update that’s more of a PITA. There is software to download that is finicky about OS versions and anti malware software.
Also with the classic ageis you have to remove the perforated metal plate on top with a pretty small torx bit to even get at the USB port.

 

[Letitia]

Interesting. I wonder who’s spreading it.

I’ve seen an uptick in anti FDA statements here lately following the JUUL purchase. It’s the same guy heading it and he’s a solid right republican and a Trump appointee to boot. You’d think “regulatory overreach” wouldn’t be much of an issue here.

Everything is starting to smell of big tobacco to me again.

BP scares me way more than BT. Odds are in BP's favor, Gottlieb is pushing for cessation classification.

 

[tdman77]

Aha. I may be able to help a bit. Maybe.
When both mods first came out their firmware was less than great. Battery life and TC issues mostly. Firmware updates helped immensely with these. It might be checking your firmware version and seeing how current you are. Checking is easy. Turn off your mod, and with the batteries in it hold the plus button. Firmware version should be displayed.

If it turns out you have to update that’s more of a PITA. There is software to download that is finicky about OS versions and anti malware software.
Also with the classic ageis you have to remove the perforated metal plate on top with a pretty small torx bit to even get at the USB port.

I did the firmware as soon as it came out. Still waiting for them to come out with one that fixes the TC functions.

Think we are getting off topic here.

 

[bombastinator]

BP scares me way more than BT. Odds are in BP's favor, Gottlieb is pushing for cessation classification.

BP = big Pharma? Yeah they’re at least as bad. Drug dealers are drug dealers.

Gotleib I have to look up again. I’m terrible with names.... got it: Dr. Scott Gotleib. Current head of the FDA. The guy I was talking about a second ago. Heh. My brain is fun because it’s small and easy to carry.
What do you mean by “cessation classification”?

 

[Letitia]

BP = big Pharma? Yeah they’re at least as bad. Drug dealers are drug dealers.

Gotleib I have to look up again. I’m terrible with names.... got it: Dr. Scott Gotleib. Current head of the FDA. The guy I was talking about a second ago. Heh. My brain is fun because it’s small and easy to carry.
What do you mean by “cessation classification”?

If vaping devices are given an official smoking cessation classification they can attach a prescription needed tag to it. Like patches vaping can end up costing more than cigs/chew.

 

[bombastinator]

If vaping devices are given an official smoking cessation classification they can attach a prescription needed tag to it. Like patches vaping can end up costing more than cigs/chew.

I’d see the better option from a right wing perspective would be to UNclassify patches and reclassify them as tobacco products. Which they basically are. Can’t do that with the anti depressants though. They’re waaay too dangerous.

Thinking about it, aren’t patches already over-the-counter? Haven’t bought one in years. I could be wrong. Iirc the only reason they’re still locked up is they’re massively high rip off items. Those things aren’t that far off solid silver by weight.

 

[Letitia]

I’d see the better option from a right wing perspective would be to UNclassify patches and reclassify them as tobacco products. Which they basically are. Can’t do that with the anti depressants though. They’re waaay too dangerous.

Thinking about it, aren’t patches already over-the-counter? Haven’t bought one in years. I could be wrong. Iirc the only reason they’re still locked up is they’re massively high rip off items. Those things aren’t that far off solid silver by weight.

Patches are otc now, originally you needed a script. I used them for a while back then and cost was literally 3x higher than smokes; that doesn't include the cost to get the script.

 

[stols001]

Patches are now OTC.

I don't know who is ripping them off (the only ripping off I enjoyed was the one where I was like, "Screw it, I'm going back to smoking.") I have not heard of any teen "how many patches can you wear before you die," competitions so I assume it's poor people/resellers.

IDK they are ALL locked up though and usually the lozenges too.

I suppose it could be some kind of "safety precaution" or something I don't know.

The remain redonkolously expensive though.

Anna

 

[Zazie]

Several people have mentioned MTL, but I don't know what that means.

Just in case you don't feel like clicking on a link, here's an explanation: MTL vaping is like smoking; you suck the vapor into your mouth and then inhale it into your lungs. When you DL (AKA DTL) vape, you inhale the vapor directly into your lungs, with no stopover in the mouth.

 

[Zazie]

I saw that when I bought my Colossal a few weeks ago. I was so amazed that I copied it. Had to retype it in myself, they had set it up as an image or something so you couldn't copy and paste the text. I posted it here somewhere. Since I saw it the first time it's changed, they expanded it and put in a bunch more lawyer talk at the bottom. My guess is it wasn't actually written by a lawyer. I doubt that stuff about decorative purposes only would hold up in court.

I just went to Vaporrange 'cause I wanted to read the expanded disclaimer, and now it doesn't seem to be there at all.

 

[bombastinator]

Patches are otc now, originally you needed a script. I used them for a while back then and cost was literally 3x higher than smokes; that doesn't include the cost to get the script.

Aha. I think I’m seeing the distinction now. If they go smoking cessation it’s not that they necessarily WOULD be regulated out of existence, but that they COULD possibly be later if BP & BT are able to push another successful media disinformation campaign though. So the trick would be to protect whatever catagory they get stuffed into from shenanigans, and smoking cessation products are not at this time a so protected classification then I take it. Maybe take the prescription stuff out of smoking cessation products and leave aerosols, gum, and patches in it as they’re simply different methods for delivery of the same chemical anyway... except that JUUL has already started to mess with that “all the same chemical” thing in currently not sufficiently studied ways.

I’m not envying Gotleib his job right now.

I’m definitely not convinced that burning down the FDA would do anything at all except make things even worse.