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I will say efests are consistent, but sort of consistently bad, in a sense. You can trust the fact that their ratings are CONSISTENTLY overrated, but they don't seem to jump around that much. However, I have NOT been impressed by the run time in mine, at all, compared to more reputable brands. They just suck. They suck consistently but you can do so much better than that.
You're talking about the Efest batteries. Yes, they are rewraps. They exaggerate their battery specs. They often change the cell they rewrap. They charge more for a pretty wrap. Since Mooch exposed their lies to the world, their more recent batteries have been more truthful in advertising; but they are still rewraps and more expensive than legitimate name brands.

The Efest LUC chargers have an excellent reputation for value and quality. I can't speak for the other Efest chargers in their lineup.
 
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I was gonna go with the Efest but it was sold out. I put an email to try and exchange the charger and batteries or get a store credit or whatever so waiting to hear back BUT I put one of my mothers Samsung’s in and I’m actually loving it. I think the reason hers hits different is she uses an M2 coil and it’s much cooler apparently. The q2 I bought with the air flow half open seems much lesser vapor so far and seems a bit warmer to me so I’m actually pretty happy with my purchase but we’re literally only an hour into using so that could change.

I know our B&M only sells the m2s so I think I’ll just order my coils online depending on how these hold up.
 
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Because I paid $22 and realistically I’m not STUCK with the tank. And realistically I’m never ever going to vape above 50 watts even most likely so $22 for the mod alone is a huge plus for me.

I will be blunt :evil:

If you are really partial to MTL you wasted $40... baby beast tank or baby beast coils will not deliver even decent MTL vaping experience... no matter how much you will close air flow or what kind drip tip you will use... yes, they will produce big somewhat flavorful hot clouds... but at big expense... those coils are expensive, do not last long and if you do not prime them extremely well they will give you dry hits and burnt taste... Baby Beast tank guzzle juice... and leaks are not uncommon... IMHO this tank is only good for experienced DTL vaper who own at least dual battery mod as single battery in your mod will not last longer than half a day...

Your Priv V8 mod is also very bad choice for anybody who wish to upgrade from Ego AIO... your Priv V8 provides
Direct output and this means it behaves exactly as your Ego AIO: as the battery discharges, voltage drops. The unit slowly produces less vapor until the battery dies.

Priv V8 does not have Variable Wattage or Temperature Control Modes and simply offers up to 60 Watts of maximum power, but the output is determined not by user but by the resistance of the coil fitted to the atomizer you use. What it means you cannot choose wattage and fine tune temperature of your vape...single battery will drain pretty fast when your coil determine 30-60 watt for each puff...

Sorry for bad news... but who knows maybe I am wrong I vape only for 4 months :confused:
 

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    Sorry to inform you, but you chose a really over-rated, lousy battery.
    I suggest that you get some better batteries. The ones that you chose are re-wraps.

    Are You Using a Rewrap (Rebranded or Aftermarket) Battery?
    Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping

    Yes the ratings are horribly inflated and we needed Mooch to do the manufacturer's work for us, but the result is quite usable and average specs for most of us. Would you still say not to use it? Not planning to order some, just wondering.

    My latest cell purchase was an eFest ... for a flashlight, I don't see any need to get a 25A cell for it, in fact it seems safer to use something far less energetic.
     
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    Yes the ratings are horribly inflated and we needed Mooch to do the manufacturer's work for us, but the result is quite usable and average specs for most of us. Would you still say not to use it? Not planning to order some, just wondering.

    My latest cell purchase was an eFest ... for a flashlight, I don't see any need to get a 25A cell for it, in fact it seems safer to use something far less energetic.
    Everyone is free to set their own parameters concerning safety and performance, and I can only say what mine are. Personally, I would never purchase or use any 18650 battery that is not an authentic Lg, Samsung, Sanyo, or Sony from a trusted vendor for my vaping mods. Anything else of a different name is a rewrap, with most likely exaggerated specifications and unknown quality cells. And, you'll probably be paying twice the price for it than you would an Lg, Samsung, or Sony battery from a reputable supplier. Rewrap companies can change the cell they use at any point in time.

    If you've read the battery test results done by Mooch, some of these rewraps are horribly inflated, to the point that they would be unsafe to use in a mod.
    That's just nine examples. The typical novice who walks into a vape shop or purchases online from an untrusted supplier likely hasn't done any research on batteries, they only know they're supposed to get an "18650 battery". Unless you check Mooch's tests, you don't don't know if the battery is truly useable or safe.

    Knowing what we know, I have to wonder why any of these re-wrap companies are even still in business. There is no reason to buy or use their batteries. There are better and cheaper alternatives.
     
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    Everyone is free to set their own parameters concerning safety and performance, and I can only say what mine are. Personally, I would never purchase or use any 18650 battery that is not an authentic Lg, Samsung, Sanyo, or Sony from a trusted vendor for my vaping mods. Anything else of a different name is a rewrap, with most likely exaggerated specifications and unknown quality cells. And, you'll probably be paying twice the price for it than you would an Lg, Samsung, or Sony battery from a reputable supplier. Rewrap companies can change the cell they use at any point in time.

    I agree with this pretty wholeheartedly. The thing is that even if you don’t pay a lot of attention to battery safety you’ll probably be OK, as long as you don’t use a completely inappropriate battery. Many, many people do very foolish things with batteries, and the vast bulk of them get away with it.

    The same could be said for a lot of things in life, I suppose- I have a friend who has been a habitual drunk driver for at least 15 years, and has so far gotten away with it. I suspect there are a lot of people like him out there. Of course your odds are probably much better with rewrapped batteries, and the stakes are not as high.

    But while a battery failure’s consequences are unlikely to include killing someone they range from very inconvenient to fairly catastrophic. If there were a significant difference in price it might be worth thinking about the risk/cost ratio, but there isn’t a big difference if you buy trusted batteries from the better suppliers (which you should, because there are definitely counterfeits out there, some of which might be much more dangerous than a rewrap.)

    I’d go so far as to say that buying good batteries might be significantly less expensive in the long run. Even with a rewrapped second catastrophic failure is still a pretty low probability event. But if it’s a rewrap there is _some_ reason it was available to the rewrapper, and I would not be surprised to find that rewraps, on average, were good for enough less charge cycles that any immediate savings on them were more than wiped out by that, over time. I have no data to back this up, so I could be wrong. But that’s the way I’d bet.

    I have a reputation for frugality and it sometimes surprises people who know me when they notice that I wear fairly expensive shoes. Well- I get them at good prices but, more importantly, they last a very long time. And they are far more comfortable (and better looking) than cheap shoes would be. So they are actually a very frugal choice.

    So do what you will, and you’ll likely be fine either way. But I’m inclined to think that there aren’t really a lot of trade-offs here. Good batteries from trusted suppliers seem like the obvious choice to me.
     

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    I will be blunt :evil:

    If you are really partial to MTL you wasted $40... baby beast tank or baby beast coils will not deliver even decent MTL vaping experience... no matter how much you will close air flow or what kind drip tip you will use... yes, they will produce big somewhat flavorful hot clouds... but at big expense... those coils are expensive, do not last long and if you do not prime them extremely well they will give you dry hits and burnt taste... Baby Beast tank guzzle juice... and leaks are not uncommon... IMHO this tank is only good for experienced DTL vaper who own at least dual battery mod as single battery in your mod will not last longer than half a day...

    Your Priv V8 mod is also very bad choice for anybody who wish to upgrade from Ego AIO... your Priv V8 provides
    Direct output and this means it behaves exactly as your Ego AIO: as the battery discharges, voltage drops. The unit slowly produces less vapor until the battery dies.

    Priv V8 does not have Variable Wattage or Temperature Control Modes and simply offers up to 60 Watts of maximum power, but the output is determined not by user but by the resistance of the coil fitted to the atomizer you use. What it means you cannot choose wattage and fine tune temperature of your vape...single battery will drain pretty fast when your coil determine 30-60 watt for each puff...

    Sorry for bad news... but who knows maybe I am wrong I vape only for 4 months :confused:
    I bought it for the reasons you specified precisely. I know absolutely NOTHING about setting watts and resistance and doing it safely which is exactly why I ordered what I did from the site at which I did it.

    I’m not ready nor do I have the patience to learn or honestly care to about what will work and what will not.. I want to quit smoking and doing it as easily as possible because.. no patients. I’m actually loving the setup I purchased rn and waiting for the new batteries I purchased along with the charger. I’m not planning on upgrading given the fact it’s going well and I’m off cigs as well as not wanting to make a long term goal out of vaping I’m content with what I’ve got going on now.

    It’s ok to be blunt, that’s why I asked for advice but remember what one persons cup of tea is, may not be yours?
     

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    Everyone is free to set their own parameters concerning safety and performance, and I can only say what mine are. Personally, I would never purchase or use any 18650 battery that is not an authentic Lg, Samsung, Sanyo, or Sony from a trusted vendor for my vaping mods. Anything else of a different name is a rewrap, with most likely exaggerated specifications and unknown quality cells. And, you'll probably be paying twice the price for it than you would an Lg, Samsung, or Sony battery from a reputable supplier. Rewrap companies can change the cell they use at any point in time.

    If you've read the battery test results done by Mooch, some of these rewraps are horribly inflated, to the point that they would be unsafe to use in a mod.
    That's just nine examples. The typical novice who walks into a vape shop or purchases online from an untrusted supplier likely hasn't done any research on batteries, they only know they're supposed to get an "18650 battery". Unless you check Mooch's tests, you don't don't know if the battery is truly useable or safe.

    Knowing what we know, I have to wonder why any of these re-wrap companies are even still in business. There is no reason to buy or use their batteries. There are better and cheaper alternatives.
    I ended up ordering from a site someone gave me on here, I tried to exchange or get a credit from EightVape but they are not having it so I threw the charger and batteries away and hope they enjoy their cash.
     
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    I bought it for the reasons you specified precisely. I know absolutely NOTHING about setting watts and resistance and doing it safely which is exactly why I ordered what I did from the site at which I did it.

    I’m not ready nor do I have the patience to learn or honestly care to about what will work and what will not.. I want to quit smoking and doing it as easily as possible because.. no patients. I’m actually loving the setup I purchased rn and waiting for the new batteries I purchased along with the charger. I’m not planning on upgrading given the fact it’s going well and I’m off cigs as well as not wanting to make a long term goal out of vaping I’m content with what I’ve got going on now.

    It’s ok to be blunt, that’s why I asked for advice but remember what one persons cup of tea is, may not be yours?
    Forgive us--we are a bunch of hobbyists, tinkerers, hackers and enthusiasts. Ask what time it is and someone from our crowd will commence to instruct you on how to build a clock.

    Most new vapers are just like you. Not like us. That's why all-in-one stick/tube mods and pod systems like JUUL are so popular. They're easy and don't need more than a minute or two prep time.

    Battery safety and performance is critical, though. Follow @Baditude's advice. He's older than I am. ;)

    Congrats on the commitment to quit. It may be a simple process but it ain't easy.
     

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    Forgive us--we are a bunch of hobbyists, tinkerers, hackers and enthusiasts. Ask what time it is and someone from our crowd will commence to instruct you on how to build a clock.

    Most new vapers are just like you. Not like us. That's why all-in-one stick/tube mods and pod systems like JUUL are so popular. They're easy and don't need more than a minute or two prep time.

    Battery safety and performance is critical, though. Follow @Baditude's advice. He's older than I am. ;)

    Congrats on the commitment to quit. It may be a simple process but it ain't easy.
    How right that is, my husband is quitting too but using the patches (says I’m “copping out” by vaping lol) but I just couldn’t do it without my quick fixes and 2 minutes of me time throughout the day. I actually go outside still because it’s habit and I’m trying to make it as similar as possible as my past attempts haven’t gone well. And yes I believe it was him that gave me the battery sites so hopefully once I get them I won’t have to worry about things for a while.
     

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    so vaping is working for me for the most part now.. if you read my first post ykwim. Anyhow, the 2 Ego AIO’s are not really cutting it and I’m going through coils so I’m looking to upgrade.
    I’d like to keep it $150 or under but have a list of wants.. I’d like a 3-5ml tank, batteries I can swap out, and I’m partial to MTL. I’d also like to buy replacement coils in 3-5 packs because I don’t want to build my own... my mother has a baby beast tank on a Priv v8 and I don’t like the way it hits.. cool and I’ve literally got no idea if anything comes out at all until exhale.

    What should I go with?
    Vaporesso switcher/ Revenger with GT 4 coils. The replacement coils com in a pack of three. GT 4 coils are great for MTL.
     

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    How right that is, my husband is quitting too but using the patches (says I’m “copping out” by vaping lol) but I just couldn’t do it without my quick fixes and 2 minutes of me time throughout the day. I actually go outside still because it’s habit and I’m trying to make it as similar as possible as my past attempts haven’t gone well. And yes I believe it was him that gave me the battery sites so hopefully once I get them I won’t have to worry about things for a while.

    Well- good luck to your husband (I mean that completely sincerely, btw.) If the patch works for him it works for him. But as for “copping out...” well, I tried the patch and it didn’t work for me. If vaping is copping out I’ll cop to copping out ;). Everyone is different, but it’s my impression that on average vaping is the most effective cessation aid there is.

    As for equipment- if what you have is working for you, keep using it. But Janusz wasn’t being rude- different tanks have different characteristics, and support different styles of vaping. Some people really require the tight draw that dedicated MTL tanks provide. So it’s worth pointing out to people that there is more than one way to vape, and that different setups support different styles, because if a given setup _isn’t_ working for them it might be because they have a setup that doesn’t suit them.

    The good news is that equipment is generally very good these days. I started vaping right around the end of 2011, IIRC, and most equipment back then was just terrible- I used to use 32mg juice, because that’s what it took on the readily available equipment of the day.

    So pretty much any reasonable setup is going to be better than anything that wasn’t fairly exotic back then. And if a given setup is working for you that’s what matters.

    But- well, some people love trying out new things, and some prefer not to have to fiddle. I fall closer to the latter camp than a lot of people on ECF, but I do experiment from time to time, and it has been worthwhile for me. I’ve gradually gone from using very restricted MTL tanks that used factory coils to using moderately airy RDAs mostly on squonk mods.

    The MTL style I favored would have continued to work for me indefinitely I imagine, especially given how good equipment is compared to when I started, but I’m happier with my current style.

    So, especially at first, don’t rush to change something that works for you. But keep an open mind- one reason there are so many opinionated hobbyists here is that there are a lot of variables in play when it comes to vaping, and most of us, especially most of us who started on fixed voltage ego devices with cartridges or cartomizers (or worse, shudder) have experimented a lot over time, and changed how they vape over time.
     

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    People usually rewrap their own batteries when the factory wrap is damaged by repeated insertion and removal. It happens. A damaged wrap is a safety threat.

    The difference is that the cells getting the new skins are known to be authentic 25R's, HE4's, VTC5A's, etc.

    They don't intend to re-sell those batteries as something they're not. At least, we hope not.
     

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    People do their own rewrapping yes, and it's usually to extend battery life. There's no issue doing your own rewraps if you have a genuine authentic battery.

    I do think rewraps are sold more often than is sometimes noted, unfortunately. You can get rewraps many places, including many vape shops (whether deliberate or not, I don't know). However, I have found for the most part, purchasing a battery from an authentic, trusted vendor is often LESS expensive than what a vape shop may offer, and I am able to be certain I am getting a genuine, authentic battery. My preferred vendor is IMRbatteries. com but there are many good vendors (you can find them in the last cell of Mooch's table of batteries he has rated, in his battery rating chart on his blog).

    It's worth it even with the (usually for me two day wait) but my kiddo pointed me in the right direction when he regifted his setups to me and I started vaping (OMG, he has gone almost a whole year not vaping apart from occasionally some 0 nic juice I made him, to vape with his friends).

    I don't think it's worth the risk. I don't know if all AW batteries are rewraps, as far as I know, they had a flood in their manufacturing room so I believe that they are made by a particular manufacturer.

    I know it's possible to get "genuine" AW batteries and rewraps that look pretty similar but not identical, so whether AW is a genuine manufacturer or not (I tend to believe they are, although I could be corrected) it's still important to buy them from a genuine supplier, as there are fakes out there. Etc.

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