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_DDMM

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I only buy flavour art flavors - you can get them anywhere just google flavour art condensed. LF has em, ecx, freedomsmokes...

I gave my recommendations already, they're on like page 10.

Have you had any complaints w/ Flavour Art? I've read that you can't really taste it...


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I just tried FA RV4 and found it pretty weak. I used it at 18% after trying 10 and 15 %. It's not their strongest flavour from what I can gather however.


FA makes some awsome flavors. HOWEVER if you mix it too strongly you will not be able to taste it as well.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-flavour-art-single-flavor-percentages-5.html

I assume you mean RY4 right?

I did a search on some reviews and it suggests that flavor be mixed between 2 and 6% One went as far as 10% and suggested a long steep. Research is good.

However you must understand human genetics does play a role as some people can taste something different than another. So as always YMMV
 
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I found this thread a week or so ago, and have praised the OP on his EASY approach. I started doing my DIY following his lead.

One thing I have found, and he may or may not choose to edit his posting, is that ecigexpress is starting to get some bad feedback in various areas. There's a few threads that suggest CC#'s are used for fraudlent charges after ordering from ecigexpress. I found their concentrates to be nearly flavor-less at any mix levels. Out of 3 brands, 8 total flavors ordered, only ONE had enough flavor to be noticeable, and that was only after dumping in the entire 10ml into a 20ml batch of 50/50, totaling 30ml batch.

In private discussions with other members, many confirmed the same .. that the concentrates coming from ecigexpress are watered down.

I went home and inspected the bottles. They all have crooked labels, appear to be re-labeled or repacked by ecigexpress. I work for a food distributor, so trust me, I know. I emailed them, letting them know my concentrates arrived and were diluted, ineffective, and they didn't even email me back (I told them it wasn't enough $$ to bother asking for a return/refund).. you would at least expect a company to be apologetic that you were not satisfied, right? I didn't accuse them of anything (until now, right now), and kept the email professional.

So yeah, won't be ordering from them again. This thread is still awesome, but find your supplies elsewhere if you want good product.
 

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I found this thread a week or so ago, and have praised the OP on his EASY approach. I started doing my DIY following his lead.

One thing I have found, and he may or may not choose to edit his posting, is that ecigexpress is starting to get some bad feedback in various areas. There's a few threads that suggest CC#'s are used for fraudlent charges after ordering from ecigexpress. I found their concentrates to be nearly flavor-less at any mix levels. Out of 3 brands, 8 total flavors ordered, only ONE had enough flavor to be noticeable, and that was only after dumping in the entire 10ml into a 20ml batch of 50/50, totaling 30ml batch.

In private discussions with other members, many confirmed the same .. that the concentrates coming from ecigexpress are watered down.

I went home and inspected the bottles. They all have crooked labels, appear to be re-labeled or repacked by ecigexpress. I work for a food distributor, so trust me, I know. I emailed them, letting them know my concentrates arrived and were diluted, ineffective, and they didn't even email me back (I told them it wasn't enough $$ to bother asking for a return/refund).. you would at least expect a company to be apologetic that you were not satisfied, right? I didn't accuse them of anything (until now, right now), and kept the email professional.

So yeah, won't be ordering from them again. This thread is still awesome, but find your supplies elsewhere if you want good product.



OK, I have zero experience with them, but I thought I would just ask the obvious just in case you didn't think about it. Are you sure you didn't order pre-made juice, or possible were sent pre-made juice by mistake.
 

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I can taste it...lately the flavors have been weaker than normal but I figured the problem was ecx watering them down - I got some from LF and they were pretty strong. I don't rly like strong flavors anyway tho so for me it's not a problem.

IMO FA has the best flavors.


also they had their card hacked from either ecigexpress or some other aquavapors site.
I personally am probably going to get my stuff elsewhere from now on
 

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Yea OP has stated that ecigexpress has been watering down their flavors and suggested buying elsewhere.

At the time i placed my order, I also bought a few of Loranns because FA was oos and I did notice a difference in strength between the 2. My 2nd order from Wizard labs proved some excellent results. I have plans for a raspberry carmel cheesecake some time tomorrow. Anyone ever had success with that one?
 

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FA makes some awsome flavors. HOWEVER if you mix it too strongly you will not be able to taste it as well.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-flavour-art-single-flavor-percentages-5.html

I assume you mean RY4 right?

I did a search on some reviews and it suggests that flavor be mixed between 2 and 6% One went as far as 10% and suggested a long steep. Research is good.

However you must understand human genetics does play a role as some people can taste something different than another. So as always YMMV

RY4, of course. The place I bought it from recommends 20%, which I thought was odd. I started at 5% on a 20 drop test and couldn't taste it on a dipped coil. I worked up from there until I got to 20% and then backed it off to 18 when I added a few percent of another flavour. I do have some other FA flavours from them and find them quite stong - 5% is plenty and I've started using a 40 drop test to give a bit more resolution. Perhaps the vendor was sent a batch that was over diluted? When researching the problems I did come across other references to overly dilute FA flavours.

I will try again when my Phoenix atty arrives, but I think I'm settling on the flue cured as the base flavour for the moment. Toasty!
 

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OK, so I tried just about everything when it comes to steeping and mixing liquids and not even one of them is vapable. I let them sit for 2 weeks, then I read in this forum about ultrasonic steeping and ordered one and still couldnt get any result. I am so frustrated that I made an account after reading this post and posted some random stuff just so I can post here.

HELP!

I have flavourings from flavourart Italy as follows:

Black Fire, Hypnotic Mist, Banana, Coconut, Caramel, Vanilla Tahiti, Oba Oba, Ice menthol, Virginia, Seven Leaves and Almond and I just cant make them to work. I started with 2% total flavour and with some like the Oba Oba got to 8%. My last mix was 4.7ml with 7 drops Seven Leaves, 3 drops Coconut 2 Drops Oba Oba 1 Drop MTS a total of 5ml mix wich has steeped for 7 days then when my ultrasonic cleaner arrived yesterday the mix spent 4 hours in it and all I get is a dry almost flavourless vape.

Anyone has any sugestions about this !? Help is much apreciated.

Regards

Edit: @cherrycakes - You are so fu****g hot !
 
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BakuPeg

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RY4, of course. The place I bought it from recommends 20%, which I thought was odd. I started at 5% on a 20 drop test and couldn't taste it on a dipped coil. I worked up from there until I got to 20% and then backed it off to 18 when I added a few percent of another flavour. I do have some other FA flavours from them and find them quite stong - 5% is plenty and I've started using a 40 drop test to give a bit more resolution. Perhaps the vendor was sent a batch that was over diluted? When researching the problems I did come across other references to overly dilute FA flavours.

I will try again when my Phoenix atty arrives, but I think I'm settling on the flue cured as the base flavour for the moment. Toasty!

Yeah that can really throw a wrench in this situation... :unsure: I don't know of an FA flavor mixed so high. They are known for the concentration of their stuff. This may be part of the rumour that FA may not want to wholesale in bulk any longer. (since I have read RTS has a huge order pending I do not think this is true)

My month old order from Liberty Flights was nice and concentrated. (I don't think I could live right without Hypnotic Mist and Oba Oba) Tried Mad Fruit for the first time and OMG where has this been all my DIY days..

So yeah if you suspect a vendor is watering them down, it could be 1) the flavor is old and loosing its kick (or exposed to sunlight/stored in the wrong plastic.. contaminated.. ect)or 2) they really are and you should look elsewhere.

As far as ecx, I noticed they are running out of many FA flavors. Maybe their stuff is just old or maybe they are watering it down to get rid of the last stock.
 
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