I was leary of the Supbox for a long time,but when they got really cheapy priced a while back,I decided to try one,and glad I did,i really like that mod,I actually like it a bit better than my Billet box clones.@BillW50 thanks for suggesting the Supbox. The 18350 kit arrived today from Provapes and of course I immediately tried it. I love it! It and the Bantam are now my faves!