SXK DOGGY STYLE

[vapdivrr]

I should mention that I bought the Doggy based on the recommendation that I would get a true MTL vape from it with the airflow closed off most of the way. But I agree with you that it doesn't shine with the af closed off. It does shine once you start opening it up.

I also agree with you that it's worth the $11. I also feel that I've gotten my moneys worth from the others.

I tried it once with the af closed down all the way and perhaps it's the 23 watts I run, it wasn't balanced like it is in the prime closed up. Not sure why this is and I'm glad I don't vape it quite that tight, so it's no problem. With my particular build I need the doggy kind of full open to perhaps cool it correctly. Perhaps with 28g and 10 watts the doggy might perform a lot better closed down, but I haven't tried that. But I suppose it's one of those things where one has to try it themselves to see because everyone has different tastes. I have seen this debate in many other rtas, about if it's a true mtl tank or not. Some will say yes, you can tighten it up all the way or open it up to 3mm. Imo most don't do this very good because there's other factors involved besides just opening and closing af. In the end it's subjective and the only real way to know is to try it for yourself, which is part of the journey and one of the parts I like the best. When a new rta catches my eye, i still get exited even after 7 years of rebuilding and I can't wait to run it thru it's paces. Most are just the same old thing and I trade or sell, but some I really enjoy. In a way it's like a hobby I guess and perhaps one day I will just settle and never buy again (not)

 

[ricks]

I did say "restricted" DTL and loose MTL, not just DTL. But I've noted that your opinion is different than my opinion.

I couldn't do it at all. Not even restricted DTL on mine. If I close mine 100%, it's almost completely air tight. You can't vape it at all. Mine is the SXK one.

 

[smoked25years]

I couldn't do it at all. Not even restricted DTL on mine. If I close mine 100%, it's almost completely air tight. You can't vape it at all. Mine is the SXK one.

I agree that it's not possible to vape with the air flow closed off 100%. It's the the 98-99% mark that some say is magic. For me, it performs better opened a lot more than that. There's no wrong or right. Just different preferences.

If you think fully open is normal MTL, then you and I have very different opinions. That's okay.

It seems like I may be interrupting the Doggy parade so I will go hide in the corner. I do like the Doggy. I like the Prime more.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

I agree that it's not possible to vape with the air flow closed off 100%. It's the the 98-99% mark that some say is magic. For me, it performs better opened a lot more than that. There's no wrong or right. Just different preferences.

If you think fully open is normal MTL, then you and I have very different opinions. That's okay.

It seems like I may be interrupting the Doggy parade so I will go hide in the corner. I do like the Doggy. I like the Prime more.

No, c'mon...no interrupting, no need to hide in corners. Everything is a matter of personal perspective, including what constitutes MTL. I've only been vaping about 1.5 yrs. myself. But I think the difference of opinion here is about MTL. SXK doggy is, I think 1.6mm dia on intake. And that's fairly tight compared to what's been released the last few years. Most here would probably consider it MTL, but maybe not as tight as say, a Berserker. In contrast, I think the SJMY is 2.3mm. Still very much MTL, but is a fair bit more loose. So I'm thinking, based on your experience with what you've vaped, the SXK feels looser than some, but not very loose to some of us.

But hey - don't worry if others disagree. It'd be pretty boring if we all shared the same views. Here, and everywhere. Stay, share, and have fun!

 

[smoked25years]

I appreciate it @Brewdawg1181 I'll post some comparison photos. I like them all but the differences are interesting and produce a different vape. I don't regret buying any of the 3.

 

[smoked25years]

A few side-by-side photos and some measurements for comparison. The measurements are approximate. I apologize for the blurry photos--photography is not my area of expertise!

I was surprised that the Prime clone had the largest air flow diameter at 2mm. It feeds a 1mm x 3 mm slot directly above the opening. The SXK Doggy is 1.8 mm. The Galaxies RDTA is smallest at 1.5 mm but there are two additional air flow screws on the sides that can be opened up for those who desire more air flow to the coil.

The deck on the Galaxies is plated.

The Galaxies is a RDTA so it does not have a separate chimney. The thickness of the top cap is the chimney. It has the shortest distance between the coil and the drip tip.

The Prime clone has the longest distance between the coil and the drip tip.

The chimney on the Doggy is plated.

The bell on the Galaxies is the largest since it is also the top cap but it has raised area directly above the coil that forms a smaller secondary bell.

The Doggy has the largest chimney internal diameter at 5mm. The Galaxies RDTA and Prime clone both have a 4mm chimney internal diameter.

The glass for the Galaxies is thicker than the glass for the Prime clone. It seems like there’s room for thicker glass on the Prime clone and it’s my guess that the German-made Prime might have thicker glass but I’ve never seen the authentic Prime. The Doggy has a threaded plastic tank.

The airflow adjustment for the Galaxies RDTA is above the tank and built into the top cap. You have the options of opening a single hole or two holes on opposite sides. You can also slightly offset the alignment to open the holes part way.

The airflow adjustment for Doggy is a ring that slips over the base. There's a single slot of equal size on the ring and the deck. Offsetting the alignment closes off the opening part way.

The airflow adjuster on the Prime has six different size holes that are rotated and locked into place. The adjuster is a hexagon, not a circle, so there are no in between settings.

And here are some dealer photos that show everything that is included with each.

 

[Bigbob2322]

A few side-by-side photos and some measurements for comparison. The measurements are approximate. I apologize for the blurry photos--photography is not my area of expertise!

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I was surprised that the Prime clone had the largest air flow diameter at 2mm. It feeds a 1mm x 3 mm slot directly above the opening. The SXK Doggy is 1.8 mm. The Galaxies RDTA is smallest at 1.5 mm but there are two additional air flow screws on the sides that can be opened up for those who desire more air flow to the coil.

The deck on the Galaxies is plated.

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The Galaxies is a RDTA so it does not have a separate chimney. The thickness of the top cap is the chimney. It has the shortest distance between the coil and the drip tip.

The Prime clone has the longest distance between the coil and the drip tip.

The chimney on the Doggy is plated.

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The bell on the Galaxies is the largest since it is also the top cap but it has raised area directly above the coil that forms a smaller secondary bell.

The Doggy has the largest chimney internal diameter at 5mm. The Galaxies RDTA and Prime clone both have a 4mm chimney internal diameter.

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The glass for the Galaxies is thicker than the glass for the Prime clone. It seems like there’s room for thicker glass on the Prime clone and it’s my guess that the German-made Prime might have thicker glass but I’ve never seen the authentic Prime. The Doggy has a threaded plastic tank.

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The airflow adjustment for the Galaxies RDTA is above the tank and built into the top cap. You have the options of opening a single hole or two holes on opposite sides. You can also slightly offset the alignment to open the holes part way.

The airflow adjustment for Doggy is a ring that slips over the base. There's a single slot of equal size on the ring and the deck. Offsetting the alignment closes off the opening part way.

The airflow adjuster on the Prime has six different size holes that are rotated and locked into place. The adjuster is a hexagon, not a circle, so there are no in between settings.

And here are some dealer photos that show everything that is included with each.

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Very nice comparison of the 3, very well done buddy.

 

[smoked25years]

Very nice comparison of the 3, very well done buddy.

Thank you, @bigbob2322

 

[carbonbegone]

After 4 days or thereabouts of use & comparing to the last several years of life w / KFL style atty ;
Doggie is easy to build.
it's a very similar vape as KFL.
rewicks easier.
terrific small form factor.
doesn't leak a drop.
I'm even ok with the filling method.

So what's not to like ? We'll ... It does appear to be a juce polluting machine compared to KFL.
After a tank or so is run through it, each subsequent refill has the juice getting darkened down quickly & tasting less than optimal. I believe it happens because the bottom of the chimney is much more open to the juice being held in the tank than KFL, juice can more or less flush in & out of the wick area & seems to pick up some of the darkened burnt residue that stays on the wick in a KFL. KFL really only allows juice in, not back out after it's been in contact with the wick.
I'll continue to use it & evaluate. Really like most everything about it save this one apparent issue, but not willing to have to rewick every 2 days or so. KFL's stay useable 3 times that length of time for me.
Or perhaps I'm doing it wrong .. ?

 

[vapdivrr]

After 4 days or thereabouts of use & comparing to the last several years of life w / KFL style atty ;
Doggie is easy to build.
it's a very similar vape as KFL.
rewicks easier.
terrific small form factor.
doesn't leak a drop.
I'm even ok with the filling method.

So what's not to like ? We'll ... It does appear to be a juce polluting machine compared to KFL.
After a tank or so is run through it, each subsequent refill has the juice getting darkened down quickly & tasting less than optimal. I believe it happens because the bottom of the chimney is much more open to the juice being held in the tank than KFL, juice can more or less flush in & out of the wick area & seems to pick up some of the darkened burnt residue that stays on the wick in a KFL. KFL really only allows juice in, not back out after it's been in contact with the wick.
I'll continue to use it & evaluate. Really like most everything about it save this one apparent issue, but not willing to have to rewick every 2 days or so. KFL's stay useable 3 times that length of time for me.
Or perhaps I'm doing it wrong .. ?

This is kind of true....because of the wicks constantly in the juice, there is a certain leaching going on that does darken juice a bit. I see it because I vape a whole mess of different rta's, I suppose if the doggy is your sole rta, the juice would be gone by the time it leaches

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[carbonbegone]

.... I suppose if the doggy is your sole rta, the juice would be gone by the time it leaches

Was hoping that would be the case, but the subsequent refill(s) flush in & out of the wicking area & that re-suspends residue in the fresh juice.
A fresh wick in a KFL doesn't require any attention for days on end.
Evidently those itty bitty channels in the KFL that feed the wick & likely contribute to making wicking a KFL finicky, also serve to eliminate the contamination of the juice.

KFL & doggy 2 days in - same build, same juice, same wattage.

 

[Katdarling]

I've noticed the kolor kchange in the Dogs, too. For the most part tho, they still TASTE good, so I've pretty much ignored it, and have not tried to scientifically find out the why.

When the Dog's breath becomes just too dark for my vision, I empty the tank and start again. It does stay "pristine" for about 3/4 of a tank.

Now, dear carbonbegone, I shall have to do a Dog/KF experimentie.

So much for other to-do lists for Tooseday.

 

[vapdivrr]

Yep kind of reminds me of the old genesis tanks in a way as the same thing use to happen but with those I use to taste the difference, but in the dog I do not really taste the darkness for some reason

Was hoping that would be the case, but the subsequent refill(s) flush in & out of the wicking area & that re-suspends residue in the fresh juice.
A fresh wick in a KFL doesn't require any attention for days on end.
Evidently those itty bitty channels in the KFL that feed the wick & likely contribute to making wicking a KFL finicky, also serve to eliminate the contamination of the juice.

KFL & doggy 2 days in - same build, same juice, same wattage.

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[JUMA55]

Was hoping that would be the case, but the subsequent refill(s) flush in & out of the wicking area & that re-suspends residue in the fresh juice.
A fresh wick in a KFL doesn't require any attention for days on end.
Evidently those itty bitty channels in the KFL that feed the wick & likely contribute to making wicking a KFL finicky, also serve to eliminate the contamination of the juice.

KFL & doggy 2 days in - same build, same juice, same wattage.

View attachment 771975

You have just explained my experience with many tanks over the years. Thank you!

 

[JUMA55]

I've noticed the kolor kchange in the Dogs, too. For the most part tho, they still TASTE good, so I've pretty much ignored it, and have not tried to scientifically find out the why.

When the Dog's breath becomes just too dark for my vision, I empty the tank and start again. It does stay "pristine" for about 3/4 of a tank.

Now, dear carbonbegone, I shall have to do a Dog/KF experimentie.

So much for other to-do lists for Tooseday.

I didn't notice a big taste change either, but something about that juice getting dark and thick really turns my stomach. I've probably wasted a lot of juice over the years by dumping and washing when I didn't have to. This is not exclusively a Doggie problem. It's happened with lots of tanks.

 

[magicmyst]

taste the darkness

The perfect slogan for the new Darth Vader line of e-liquids!

 

[carbonbegone]

It's a shame this doggie can't be housebroken.
The more charitable among you could form a doggystlye rescue group to take in unwanted atty's & give them a good home.

 

[oplholik]

Just send em all to me.

 

[Bigbob2322]

Your going to think I'm nuts but this works for me, raise your wick up off the deck before you place it in the wicking slots and make sure it stays up off the deck when you assemble the tank. I have a juice that would turn almost black in the Dog but taste just fine, after trying this raised wick I no longer get very dark juice.
I use a very skinny jewelers screwdriver to get under the wick.

 

[Katdarling]

My visual skills are right now slim to none. Might you pretty please post a pic, Bob?