SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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I am also getting new flavor notes and enjoying them. Even old juice that has been put away for emergency use is now usable and even enjoyable when I dial it in properly. I do notice that the NI200 I use will taste better after a build if I wash it off first before building. Maybe there is some chemicals or oils that are being used in the manufacturing process. With a good wash on the NI200 I really don't have a problem with taste.
thanks, I will wash some Ni and rebuild as soon as I can
never thought about washing wire before as never have but then kanthal gets a dry burn
 
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I am also getting new flavor notes and enjoying them. Even old juice that has been put away for emergency use is now usable and even enjoyable when I dial it in properly.

Yeah, the benefit of TC is that you can easily adjust the limit to see how it affects flavor. Sometimes it works great like you say, sometimes though it also just shows how mediocre the e-liquid is. I've had a couple e-liquids that I didn't care for and tried again with TC. No matter what setting I tried, I still found them bland or badly balanced. Not that I was disappointed, if anything I appreciated that TC made it quite clear what the flaws in those juices were.
 
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Hi folks
I have a question. We vape SX Mini by joules. I wondered the watt i am vaping on it and made a calculation. Below is the SS of the SX Mini. You may see the output voltage and the resistance:


The resistance is 0.103 ohms and the output voltage is 2.44 and when i input these datas to the rapidtables chart here is the result:


According to this calculation, am i vaping on 58 watts? And does SX Mini discharge the battery at 24 Amps? Aren't these values too high?
 

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As soon as you hit the fire button the resistance will go up, so you are actually never vaping at 0.1 ohm (more likely 0.2 to 0.2.5 when the coil is at working temp). Without wanting to restart that discussion you would be vaping at 25W in your example. You would be drawing about 10 amps from the board, how many amps you draw from the battery is dependent on the voltage of the battery.
 

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If this sucks so badly for you, then why exactly are you posting in here? We're all enjoying the hell out of this technology.

I never said the mod or technology "sucks". As a matter of fact, if you read my post I said I would recommend this device in a heartbeat to anyone"!!! But come on...this is a M class thread. Like going to a iphone 7 launch with your better Samsung Galaxy. No one on that line will admit the Apple is not as good.

There are hundreds of posts on ecf (as well as all over the web) of people saying the same thing too. Don't blame you for "defending your device".... i like mine too. But, when its the best taste I am looking for, I reach for my S class or mech mod with a kanthal build.

Quick Question....There is a guy/company on ebay selling a Pre Order for the new batch of SX Mini M Class for $149. That seems a little low. How can he sell them $50 cheaper then another vendor?

It's a total fake and scam. He even has finishes listed that yihi does not even make. Those people are sending him money and he will be long gone way before the june date he is promising.
 

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Got my new silo beast today. Wrapped a 6 wrap spaced nickel coil, came out to .98 ohms. The vape is dense and flavor is amazing, not to mention the tank is so sexy looking. Got to say it's my new favorite, sorry lemo 2, you are still my mistress.
Cool man glad you like and was able to convince you
 

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I never said the mod or technology "sucks". As a matter of fact, if you read my post I said I would recommend this device in a heartbeat to anyone"!!! But come on...this is a M class thread. Like going to a iphone 7 launch with your better Samsung Galaxy. No one on that line will admit the Apple is not as good.

There are hundreds of posts on ecf (as well as all over the web) of people saying the same thing too. Don't blame you for "defending your device".... i like mine too. But, when its the best taste I am looking for, I reach for my S class or mech mod with a kanthal build.
Wait, wut? Are you debating with yourself? In one paragraph it doesn't suck, you recommend it, yet that's like being a foolish iPhone fanboi. Then in the next paragraph you and the rest of the internet thinks it sucks, but you like the device and will defend it.

Obviously you didn't receive an A in Debating101
 
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Wait, wut? Are you debating with yourself? In one paragraph it doesn't suck, you recommend it, yet that's like being a foolish iPhone fanboi. Then in the next paragraph you and the rest of the internet thinks it sucks compared to Kathal, but you like the device and will defend it.

Obviously you didn't receive an A in Debating101

Obviously YOU have a problem reading.

Last i checked the M class has 3 modes. Joules, Power and Bypass.
I can use it in the latter 2 with a Kanthal build.

And yes.... I can also sacrifice taste quality of my juice (SLIGHTLY) and use a nickel build. PLEASE show one instance where i said nickel or the M class "sucked"?!?!?!

You want to jump on me for telling the truth, then so be it. I didn't realize I wasn't permitted to have an opinion -- one shared by thousands here on ECF and various other boards. But you lose all credibility by lying and making up things that you say i posted.

If YOU'd like to intelligently debate me or my opinion, then instead of bashing me without any facts and just causing drama (like you are known for in the DNA threads too), please show me (or any of the truth seeking readers) ....

1. Images/links/testimonials from cloud competitions (not what we all are looking for in this device) who use the M class in competition, and more importantly,

2. ANY prominent, well respected e-liquid reviewer who uses a nickel build to test/review juices.
 
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Got my new silo beast today. Wrapped a 6 wrap spaced nickel coil, came out to .98 ohms. The vape is dense and flavor is amazing, not to mention the tank is so sexy looking. Got to say it's my new favorite, sorry lemo 2, you are still my mistress.
??? It has an rba deck??

Edit:just saw you have the Atlantis rba head!! All is clear!!

Ps you using the v2 version of the rba??
 

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thanks, I will wash some Ni and rebuild as soon as I can
never thought about washing wire before as never have but then kanthal gets a dry burn

Yea give it a try and report your findings. When I first started using ni200 I was getting a funky metallic taste, someone suggested cleaning the ni200 with Dawn and since I've been doing that it's nothing but flavor. Let us know.
 

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Yea give it a try and report your findings. When I first started using ni200 I was getting a funky metallic taste, someone suggested cleaning the ni200 with Dawn and since I've been doing that it's nothing but flavor. Let us know.
Thanks, will do Vlad
hopefully tonight when the kids and dog eventually tire out and give me a break ;)
 
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I am also getting new flavor notes and enjoying them. Even old juice that has been put away for emergency use is now usable and even enjoyable when I dial it in properly. I do notice that the NI200 I use will taste better after a build if I wash it off first before building. Maybe there is some chemicals or oils that are being used in the manufacturing process. With a good wash on the NI200 I really don't have a problem with taste.

Yea give it a try and report your findings. When I first started using ni200 I was getting a funky metallic taste, someone suggested cleaning the ni200 with Dawn and since I've been doing that it's nothing but flavor. Let us know.

Well that's better :)
Scrubbed a length of Ni with green scotch cloth and plenty of washing up liquid, rinsed with hot water along with tank and started again
Went for something nearer my traditional kanthal build of 5 spaced wraps of 26awg at 3mm albeit this time Ni 29awg, twisted it first in a drill, wicked, juiced, left to stand whilst I made a coffee, set the resistance and came in at 0.084
Started low, with 14j / 280f & gradually brought it up and now vaping very nice at 18j / 380f
Certainly the best its tasted so far & definitely lost that alien taint of flavour that was there before
Nice one cheers :toast:

I have already ordered some Ti in a few sizes now though and if steam engine serves me right I should be able to use 26awg Ti with 5 wraps coming in at about 0.24 & see how that compares to my traditional kanthal as well
 

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Just a friendly reminder about the importance of clean connections. I wrapped up my go to build on my Marquis, a 7/6 wrap of 26awg ni200 on a 3.5mm rod, which should come out to about .07. First reading was .089, so I let it sit for 15 minutes, checked again, .087. I then let it sit for a full hour and it was .088. Then I remembered *derp*, the copper 510. After giving that a nice polish, two solid .069 readings 10 min apart. Since we're working with such low numbers here, the little things can make a huge difference.
 

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Yea give it a try and report your findings. When I first started using ni200 I was getting a funky metallic taste, someone suggested cleaning the ni200 with Dawn and since I've been doing that it's nothing but flavor. Let us know.
I've been using those disposable alcohol pads (like the Dr uses before giving a shot) and give a quick wipe and it's working good for me.

The fact that folks dry burn or torch Kanthal A1 or Nichrome will generally burn off the residual oils from manufacturing, while Ni200 normally is not dry burned, so cleaning is a must.

One thing I've noticed, and others have as well, is that some of the "taste" that is noticed even after cleaning is actually a LACK OF coloration of the taste by the wire. Kanthal A1 (yes, I'm particular enough to specify A1 when mentioning Kanthal, as Kanthal is also the manufacturer of the NiCr that I use) alloy has aluminum, iron and chromium in it. The chromium and aluminum don't add any flavor, however iron has a distinct flavor. Likewise, the aluminum and iron will oxidize very fast (this oxidation is what makes contact coils actually work)-- and these oxides DO impart a flavor.... So some or most of the flavor difference between the wire types (barring residual machining oils) is due to coloration on the Kanthal A1 side. This is NOT saying that A1 tastes better or worse than Ni200 (or NiCr), but validates that there IS a difference.

With that being said, Nichrome is also like Ni200 in that it doesn't oxidize readily, and is mostly inert in terms of flavoring. I personally think the taste with Ni200 is interchangeable with that of NiCr. So juice makers may not have created their flavors with Ni200 (in the past, I'm sure that is going to change in the future), if they tested their juice with just about any pre-made coils, they have indeed tested with NiCr!
 
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I've been using those disposable alcohol pads (like the Dr uses before giving a shot) and give a quick wipe and it's working good for me.

The fact that folks dry burn or torch Kanthal A1 or Nichrome will generally burn off the residual oils from manufacturing, while Ni200 normally is not dry burned, so cleaning is a must.

One thing I've noticed, and others have as well, is that some of the "taste" that is noticed even after cleaning is actually a LACK OF coloration of the taste by the wire. Kanthal A1 (yes, I'm particular enough to specify A1 when mentioning Kanthal, as Kanthal is also the manufacturer of the NiCr that I use) alloy has aluminum, iron and chromium in it. The chromium and aluminum don't add any flavor, however iron has a distinct flavor. Likewise, the aluminum and iron will oxidize very fast (this oxidation is what makes contact coils actually work)-- and these oxides DO impart a flavor.... So some or most of the flavor difference between the wire types (barring residual machining oils) is due to coloration on the Kanthal A1 side. This is NOT saying that A1 tastes better or worse than Ni200, but validates that there IS a difference
If you think ni doesn't have a flavor, try Ti.. I was like... Hmm, this tastes funny... Something is missing... Yeah... Nickel and kanthal are missing :)

Regards
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Guys I bet my 510 connector needs a clean! Will 70% isopropyl alcohol Pre Injection swabs be ok as a cleaner for 510 connections?

I also clean all my coils in an ultrasonic bath for 5 mins with washing up liquid, a good rinse under the tap. Then another ultra clean with clean hot water. This is do with all my vaping bits. Really a good and easy way to clean.
 
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