SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

[MrKnyaz]

Why not?

I never got to understand this crap. Money doesn't smell and as long as one is ready to accept shipping costs and eventual transport risk, what's the problem?

10 years ago I wanted to buy a memory card for my Canon camera on Amazon. Can't remember the vendor but when I tried to buy the card, there was stated in big fat letter:

"We do not ship to Iraq, Libia and Portugal "

***??!!

I checked twice on CIA's website if my country somehow mysteriously made it to the top 10 enemy of the world countries. I didn't even lost time contacting the vendor. I bought the card in Germany and that was it.

Sounds funny now but believe me I was ...... back then lol

Regards
Tony

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If shop doesn't send to Kazakhstan, then you can be sure it also doesn't sell to Russia and other USSR countries)) They think packages in our evil countries are always lost. I'm vaping for 4.5 years, I ordered maaaaaaaaaany goods from different countries with different types of mail(regular, ems, fedex, ups , dhl, and even packages with no tracking number) guess what? No single package was lost

 

[tchavei]

If shop doesn't send to Kazakhstan, then you can be sure it also doesn't sell to Russia and other USSR countries)) They think packages in our evil countries are always lost. I'm vaping for 4.5 years, I ordered maaaaaaaaaany goods from different countries with different types of mail(regular, ems, fedex, ups , dhl, and even packages with no tracking number) guess what? No single package was lost

Yeah, I got over 900 packages in the last 15 years and only one was missing for about 3 months. It was a custom painted canopy... The shop owner (California I believe) made a mistake writing my address (Belgium instead of Portugal) so when the package arrived in Belgium, the guys couldn't find the city so they sent it to Brazil (lol). In Brazil they realized that city didn't exist either so they sent it for the third time across the Atlantic and finally to Portugal.

Delays yes, lost? Never.

Regards
Tony

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[dannyben]

Why would you post that? If there was a know problem with this vendor thats one thing and I apologize, but it's against ECF rules to post an email on this forum as well as possibly slanderous.

Besides, if Kidney Puncher is selling above MAP pricing and following whatever rules yihi mandates, there is nothing wrong with them buying from an authorized dealer/distributor and selling it. It in no way would effect your warranty and is how the majority of vendors in this industry (as well as almost all) buy their products.

 

[dannyben]

Why not?

I never got to understand this crap. Money doesn't smell and as long as one is ready to accept shipping costs and eventual transport risk, what's the problem?

It might have to do with their credit card processing that possibly will not protect them against international sales. Europe/Asia has a different system that doesn't allow USA companies to get a proper verification.

 

[dannyben]

Possibly a good idea for @whitewidows to add to the OP or create a sticky of all the vendors people have reported in this thread of having a good experience purchasing their M class from. So far i've seen:

Varitube
Ginger Vaper
Yeti Vapes
Wet Vapes
VapeNW
Eciggity
VapinArt

If i left any out, just shoot me a PM or post and I'll edit if can't be added to OP or sticky.

 

[Vlad1]

Why would you post that? If there was a know problem with this vendor thats one thing and I apologize, but it's against ECF rules to post an email on this forum as well as possibly slanderous.

Besides, if Kidney Puncher is selling above MAP pricing and following whatever rules yihi mandates, there is nothing wrong with them buying from an authorized dealer/distributor and selling it. It in no way would effect your warranty and is how the majority of vendors in this industry (as well as almost all) buy their products.

First there's no email posted, I posted a screen shot of a post from a web page. And I posted it because there is potential problems with warranty as Yihi has stated in their precautions:

Item 7. Any SXmini which is not bought from our official distributor WILL NOT be covered by the factory warranty.

So if the vendor is not an official distributor we don't know who or where they have received their merchandise regardless of what price they are selling it at. Pretty simple. It also answered a previous question in the thread about why this vendor had other delays that wasn't in line with other "official distributors"

Why you would suggest people to buy blindly and without thought to this or to suggest that it's the norm is beyond my understanding.

 

[dannyben]

First there's no email posted, I posted a screen shot of a post from a web page. And I posted it because there is potential problems with warranty as Yihi has stated in their precautions:

Item 7. Any SXmini which is not bought from our official distributor WILL NOT be covered by the factory warranty.

So if the vendor is not an official distributor we don't know who or where they have received their merchandise regardless of what price they are selling it at. Pretty simple. It also answered a previous question in the thread about why this vendor had other delays that wasn't in line with other "official distributors"

Why you would suggest people to buy blindly and without thought to this or to suggest that it's the norm is beyond my understanding.

Why is everything always a fight with you?!?!?!

You posted a picture of an EMAIL. LOL. yes, that is an email.
and if you read my post, i specifically said if there was a problem with this vendor i apologize!
Now....as to Yihi's rules, there is NO problem with the warranty if a dealer purchased the item from an authorized dealer/distributor(as long as they follow whatever rules are mandated). Did i say to purchase blindly? If someone prefers to go through a dealer purchasing direct, of course thats best. But doesn't mean you void all warranties necessarily if you don't.

 

[tchavei]

It might have to do with their credit card processing that possibly will not protect them against international sales. Europe/Asia has a different system that doesn't allow USA companies to get a proper verification.

Ok... Make them pay by PayPal if credit card processing is the problem.

Heck, if a oversees vendor asks 50 bucks shipping for a 10 dollar item, I might disagree but I have a choice of accepting or not the deal. Stating "we don't sell to x" just feels bitter.

It's like on the classies "will ship to con us only".

This is probably not the place to discuss this anyway

'rant over'

Regards
Tony

EDIT: MrKnyaz: try pink-mule.com. They are based in Denmark and Spain and are an official distributor for yihi.

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[Jazzman]

Ok... Make them pay by PayPal if credit card processing is the problem.

Heck, if a oversees vendor asks 50 bucks shipping for a 10 dollar item, I might disagree but I have a choice of accepting or not the deal. Stating "we don't sell to x" just feels bitter.

It's like on the classies "will ship to con us only".

This is probably not the place to discuss this anyway

'rant over'

Regards
Tony

EDIT: MrKnyaz: try pink-mule.com. They are based in Denmark and Spain and are an official distributor for yihi.

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PayPal would be a bad solution since ECig products are against their terms of service. Even if they allowed the purchase, if there was a dispute they would not necessarily arbitrate the dispute. They have even frozen buyers accounts for 180 days for ecig related purchases.

 

[JimScotty0]

PBusardo posted his first impressions:
Taste Your Juice | NEW IN THE QUEUE – 05/20/15 – The Joyetech eVic VT

Phil stated...

It's definitely a PV and a pretty sharp looking one at that.
This is Joyetech's latest PV, the eVic VT and so far, I'm impressed.
Although I've only used it for a little bit, it's one of the best experiences I've had in temp control to date, because I can finally... and easily... adjust the TEMPERATURE!
Another first (or at least in my hands) is that it has settings and is calibrated for use with either nickel (NI200) OR titanium (TI) wires. There is also a wattage mode for your standard kanthal and nichrome builds.
You can access the menu with 3 clicks on the fire button, then use the top "jog wheel" to select different options and settings.
This one has a massive 5000 mAh power cell to keep you vaping for days (or hours for some of you out there ).​

I can tell you that I am impressed too and especially for the price and with tons of features. The only thing that I thought was odd is that it can go no lower than 30W in TC modes. Now I usually vape at 14-18J with 28ga NI200, and between 20-23J using 26ga NI200. So, if we could conclude that Joules and Watts means the same thing when adjusting your power setting... (A good debate could be placed here. lol) then that might be a problem. But if the way they are using the power setting to get to temp is different, then all bets might be off for this is a different animal.

There is no way I would feel comfortable using my SXM at 30J for a minimal setting in TC mode as I would never go that high but like I just said, this is a different animal and perhaps has a different feel to it and different technology.

 

[Croak]

Like I posted elsewhere, it'll go below 30w to regulate temps, it's just that the end user can't set wattage below that. Think of it as preheat. And try running your SX at 30j and the temps of your choice, see what it actually fires at on average. And see how little real difference it makes between tootle joules and 30j.

 

[Todai]

LOL, I've never been below 45J.

 

[JimScotty0]

Like I posted elsewhere, it'll go below 30w to regulate temps, it's just that the end user can't set wattage below that. Think of it as preheat. And try running your SX at 30j and the temps of your choice, see what it actually fires at on average. And see how little real difference it makes between tootle joules and 30j.

Croak when I set the Joules on the SXM up to say 40J or more I see the temperature reading jumping up higher than my set temp and then jumping back down like it is fighting to keep it set. I have the temp counter sometimes even jumping over 20F over my setting. Seems like it is working against each other between my temperature limit and the power I am giving it. When I set the Joules to like 23J which I am vaping at now, it stays within about 4F of my temperature setting. I set my temperature and joules to match each other so they compliment the settings I have chosen.

 

[JimScotty0]

One statement that Joyetech is stating in their eVic VT manual is:

The ideal output wattage in VT mode should be 30-60W, because when the output wattage is below 30W, it is difficult to reach 450F (230C) so that vaporization will start.​

Now that may be a simple answer for a novice, but my temperatures vary depending on the many factors of which I am using at the time. I rarely use 450F, but I must say there have been times I have used as much as 540F or so to get a good vape. Usually that high when I have a bad connection or a very dirty wick. Since after several weeks now using the SXM my temp is more closer between 400-440F and today it is set at 410F. On my current build I have gone up and down the ladder to find that setting which suits me fine with good flavor, strong vapor production, and warm. I just tried 450F on my current build and for sure it is much warmer, but not too much, but the flavor is lacking and it feels like the ejuice is getting vaporized just too much and burning away wastefully for no good reason for me to choose that temperature.

I seem to think that Joyetech is trying to make TC work the way that Phil Busardo says it should work. Simple. Just set your temperature and vape without complications and for the average user or even a novice. Nothing wrong with that but I am certainly curious to give their device a try. They would also like to sell you their coils too.

 

[Todai]

The VT's pricing and simple interface is finally going to bring TC to the masses. It will be interesting to watch how it all plays out. They're going to sell boatloads of them.

 

[Unforeseen]

Please let me remind you all to keep the conversation civil. There is no reason for an argument. If you are unable to do that then please visit another thread or sub-forum.

 

[MrKnyaz]

Guys from varitube.com added my country, Im happy, thanks to them) They just were curious of tracking possibility

 

[chia]

Many companies are concern with cc fraud cases.. Especially Asia. That's probably why many of them are selective in the countries they ship to..

 

[retird]

Item 7. Any SXmini which is not bought from our official distributor WILL NOT be covered by the factory warranty.

So if the vendor is not an official distributor we don't know who or where they have received their merchandise regardless of what price they are selling it at. Pretty simple. It also answered a previous question in the thread about why this vendor had other delays that wasn't in line with other "official distributors"

So where is this "official" list of distributors? I looked on Yihi's web site and no list... looked at many vendors sites and none that I see say they are "official distributors"... Yihi's main web site doesn't even show the SX 350 Mini M class (or any other device) as a product...so how do customers know they have a valid warranty according to your Item 7 comment?

 

[aldenf]

So where is this "official" list of distributors? I looked on Yihi's web site and no list... looked at many vendors sites and none that I see say they are "official distributors"... Yihi's main web site doesn't even show the SX 350 Mini M class (or any other device) as a product...so how do customers know they have a valid warranty according to your Item 7 comment?

This is a problem, truth be told. But it's a typical problem with "premium" Chinese merchandise across multiple industries. Currently however, selling the SXMini M below MAP is a sure give away that a vendor is NOT "authorized".