SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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dems86

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His struggles are around it coming up a lot lower resistance than he expects. My first guess is that he is making contact coils, and the new wire isn't as oxidized as the SV stuff we all use. I'd like to see a fair apples to apples comparison (I.e. Spaced coil, same wraps same coil former and same atty
Yeah, he's also pulsing it too (which could bery well indicate that he's going contact), because it's been noted many times nickel shouldn't be pulsed (hence why many people clean it beforehand since no longer relying on pulsing to burn off any excess dirt or oil)

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My guess is that folks noticing it firing hotter/cooler than before at the same settings either did not pair a room temperature atty with the device at room temperature after updating the device (or possibly was not paired properly before the update and they did pair it correctly afterwards).

Not belittling anyone who makes the mistake..coming off of DNA40 devices it's easy to "forget" that the SX doesn't automatically pair with temp control devices.
I like your theory but thats not the case. The resistance is still showing the same as it was before the upgrade It is hotter. It fires hotter for whatever reason. I am using the same coils and getting the same resistance numbers I was before and it is definately hotter.
 

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I like your theory but thats not the case. The resistance is still showing the same as it was before the upgrade It is hotter. It fires hotter for whatever reason. I am using the same coils and getting the same resistance numbers I was before and it is definately hotter.

Yep nothing has changed with my builds either, showing same resistance before and after update
But heats up quicker, stays closer to temp limit and is a warmer vape at that setting than it was before update
 

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So now I go to the SXmini M Class manufacturers,SXmini M Class exporters,SXmini M Class suppliers,SXmini M Class OEM service. page and scroll to the bottom in the downloads page and there is a new 'original' 1.4 firmware,...

Glad to see that. From what I've been reading here, I probably won't do the 2.1 update, but it's good to know they have that version available. Of course, my SX hasn't arrived yet, so I don't know which version it comes with.

I've looked, but I don't see an older version (or anything I recognize as a version number) for the J chip. Am I looking in the wrong place? Download-yihiecigar,sx350,Yihi SX350,dna30 30W chip,SX350 35W chip Manufacturers & Suppliers - Dongguan Yihi Electronic Co.,Limited
 

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Glad to see that. From what I've been reading here, I probably won't do the 2.1 update, but it's good to know they have that version available. Of course, my SX hasn't arrived yet, so I don't know which version it comes with.

I've looked, but I don't see an older version (or anything I recognize as a version number) for the J chip. Am I looking in the wrong place? Download-yihiecigar,sx350,Yihi SX350,dna30 30W chip,SX350 35W chip Manufacturers & Suppliers - Dongguan Yihi Electronic Co.,Limited

the updates for the sx mini are at the bottom of the page .... here

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Mine came with firmware version 1.3.1 and in this very thread, post number 517 (SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) | Page 26 | E-Cigarette Forum) shows Im not imagining things. There were also several Youtube videos I watched on this device reviewing the SX Mini and the reviewers show how to check the firmware on Yihi devices and theirs all showed 1.3.1. Anyway, Im thinking about putting 1.4 back on as I need consistency and 2.1 is really just obnoxious to use. I thought it would be nicer to have no gravity sensor and the Eco mode with a proper screen timeout time but its just not worth the effort.
 

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Right, but I ordered the SX Mini and the SX350 J chip. I am under the impression that they're separate update files. My forum search yesterday for modders and sx350 j chips came up pretty sparse and I thought I'd read in this thread that somebody had updated their chip. I do suffer from some CRS, though.
 

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Yep nothing has changed with my builds either, showing same resistance before and after update
But heats up quicker, stays closer to temp limit and is a warmer vape at that setting than it was before update
Yep thats exactly what I'm getting also. I notice I have to use a lower setting to get the same vape as before.
 

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i don’t know whether I should laugh or cry at you!

Not because you don't know whom he is, but because you’d rather try and attack someone then familiarize yourself on a subject that you obviously know nothing about and make yourself look like a fool in the process.

And fyi…. his kitchen is MORE commercial then any restaurant you’ve even been in.

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Would you two get a f'ing room or take it outside or something..
You're stinking up the thread and it's getting tedious.
 
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Mine came with firmware version 1.3.1 and in this very thread, post number 517 (SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) | Page 26 | E-Cigarette Forum) shows Im not imagining things. There were also several Youtube videos I watched on this device reviewing the SX Mini and the reviewers show how to check the firmware on Yihi devices and theirs all showed 1.3.1. Anyway, Im thinking about putting 1.4 back on as I need consistency and 2.1 is really just obnoxious to use. I thought it would be nicer to have no gravity sensor and the Eco mode with a proper screen timeout time but its just not worth the effort.

Yes, you are imagining. @ZeroOhm post there is referring to a 350mini chip not the 350J. The M class never came with v1.3.1 which was for the S class.
 

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I like your theory but thats not the case. The resistance is still showing the same as it was before the upgrade It is hotter. It fires hotter for whatever reason. I am using the same coils and getting the same resistance numbers I was before and it is definately hotter.

I don't think it's firing hotter, but firing more accurately. Before with v1.4 it was firing lower or less accurate.
You just need to retrain yourself to what your "new" more accurate sweet spot is.
 

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Mine came with firmware version 1.3.1 and in this very thread, post number 517 (SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) | Page 26 | E-Cigarette Forum) shows Im not imagining things. There were also several Youtube videos I watched on this device reviewing the SX Mini and the reviewers show how to check the firmware on Yihi devices and theirs all showed 1.3.1. Anyway, Im thinking about putting 1.4 back on as I need consistency and 2.1 is really just obnoxious to use. I thought it would be nicer to have no gravity sensor and the Eco mode with a proper screen timeout time but its just not worth the effort.

I think there's been some confusion as to versions due to some referencing different devices and boards and others seeing V1.3.1 in the SXI Installer software. The case with the post # 517 you mention he's talking about the "Sx350 mini" having version 1.3.1. Not the SXmini M.

The original SXmini which is now known as the SXmini S was at ver 1.3.1 as well as the SX350 mini board.
The previous SXi Installer software would also reflect version 1.3.1 when looking at the Information Icon. This is the Software version of the installer program not the firmware version
The SXmini M and the SX350j were released with ver 1.4 unless you received a pre-production board or device

So to clarifiy:
v1.3.1 - Sxmini, Sxmini S, Sx350 mini board, Previous SXI installer software package
V1.4 - Sxmini M, SX350j,

You can determine what your firmware version is by holding down the fire button while inserting a battery. It will display what your version is. Personally I'm not seeing much of a difference in usage as it's been just as stable and consistent as it was when released with the exception of the Eco mode "Check Battery" But if you find it problematic you can revert back. It's not a mandated update or requirement.
 

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So, fyi, Im noticing the same, with the 2.1 firmware I dropped the temp down to 400 (down from 430) using the same eliquid I was vaping before.

When I watched PBusardo's video showing the temp variants in part 2, it looked like the device was keeping the coil about 30 degrees below the users setting when it was actually being measured externally so I think they just tweaked the formula used in the chip to make the temp more accurate.

Ive had my SX Mini M since Saturday afternoon, a quick 2 day update...

Taking the menu nonsense and the wonky bugs out of the picture, the SX Mini is my current favourite device. And I know I say this alot, there is no reason I feel like I need to switch to anything. Its got very accurate wattage mode, temp control, all in a small form factor, and contrary to others experience, in temp mode, the battery life is better than my P3.

Oh yea, this by the way is my first box mod. I hated the form factor of virtually every box mod out there, big, clunky, blech. This one is very comfortable in my hand and its about as wide as I would want to have my mod to be, if it were any wider, it would be uncomfortable.

Also, not related to the SX Mini, but Im currently using the Kanger sub tank with the rebuildable section instead of the OCC prebuilt coils and I am getting excellent flavour and my eliquid consumption is half what it was when using the OCC coils so if you're still using the OCC prebuilt coils, consider (I know its obnoxious) building a single nickel coil with 7 wraps or so and throw it on (most vape shops will even build the coil for you, then you merely need to remove the old wick, dry burn and rinse the coil, then rewick and you're just like new - most vape shops will show you how to do this and you can even go in when it needs to be rewicked and they will have you do it in front of them so you are sure you are doing it right, usually needs to be rewicked every 30-50 mil of juice you've vaped, you wont need a new coil but maybe every 6 months and the vape shop can do that for you when that needs to be done and you can rewick it yourself every time it needs to be done).

I know how to build my own coils btw, for those elitists out there, but I hate building them on tank style mods, but now that I know you can do a quick dry burn and just rewick, Im SO much happier with using my own coil, especially knowing I can do this every 6 months or so. Saves me on the cost of OCC coils (which I used as a matter of convenience) and Im using half the eliquid with the same flavour production as the OCC coils.

I LOVE my Kafun 4, I just hate the fiddly bits and the Kanger sub tank mega with its 7 mil juice capacity (contrary to the specs, the rebuildable section does not actually change the juice capacity) holds enough eliquid to vape all day, and I am a heavy user (with the OCC coils, I was vaping around 12-14 mil of juice a day).

And my vertical rebuildable on this SX Mini is bloody brilliant (and I have this particular dripper because the flavour is impeccable AND its much easier for me to build on, alot of people have trouble with this particular device and building on it, I for some reason dont have a problem with vertical coils). I dont even use temp control with my dripper, I just love this thing. Its consistent, it feels like my little vaping buddy, its there when I need it.
 
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I've gotta say, Im pretty amazed and disappointed at many posts here slamming this software update.
Is it bug free....NO. What software is? But it's been given to us FREE of charge, and done so from the comfort of our own home!
In just a day, I've noticed it being much more accurate and consistent -- with multiple attys. Its working much better anywhere between 0.065 and 0.15 (the highest I've tried). Yihi once again listened to what people were asking for and in just about 8 weeks or so gave an update. My Kudos to them!

People complaining about the eco mode? Why would you even try and test it when multiple people reported the issue? Then complain when it does? Did it have Eco mode before? So, don't put it in Eco mode unit they release an update. Or revert back to v1.4. Or trade it in for an "E" unit that you can't update.

Sorry for the harshness..... but you do know yihi reads these forums. I havent seen one WOW, Thanks YiHi. Just complaints for giving you something you didn't have before.
 

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I've gotta say, Im pretty amazed and disappointed at many posts here slamming this software update.
Is it bug free....NO. What software is? But it's been given to us FREE of charge, and done so from the comfort of our own home!
In just a day, I've noticed it being much more accurate and consistent -- with multiple attys. Its working much better anywhere between 0.065 and 0.15 (the highest I've tried). Yihi once again listened to what people were asking for and in just about 8 weeks or so gave an update. My Kudos to them!

People complaining about the eco mode? Why would you even try and test it when multiple people reported the issue? Then complain when it does? Did it have Eco mode before? So, don't put it in Eco mode unit they release an update. Or revert back to v1.4. Or trade it in for an "E" unit that you can't update.

Sorry for the harshness..... but you do know yihi reads these forums. I havent seen one WOW, Thanks YiHi. Just complaints for giving you something you didn't have before.

WOW x2

First for YIHI as they continue to amaze me with devices they're delivering to us and the options and features that are thrown in for free after the sale.

Secondly that I'm agreeing with you completely. Yihi is listening and answering us, we have the ability to run what firmware we like most. No sending back, waiting on vendor, manufacturer, shipping etc..
 

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I've gotta say, Im pretty amazed and disappointed at many posts here slamming this software update.
Is it bug free....NO. What software is? But it's been given to us FREE of charge, and done so from the comfort of our own home!
In just a day, I've noticed it being much more accurate and consistent -- with multiple attys. Its working much better anywhere between 0.065 and 0.15 (the highest I've tried). Yihi once again listened to what people were asking for and in just about 8 weeks or so gave an update. My Kudos to them!

People complaining about the eco mode? Why would you even try and test it when multiple people reported the issue? Then complain when it does? Did it have Eco mode before? So, don't put it in Eco mode unit they release an update. Or revert back to v1.4. Or trade it in for an "E" unit that you can't update.

Sorry for the harshness..... but you do know yihi reads these forums. I havent seen one WOW, Thanks YiHi. Just complaints for giving you something you didn't have before.
I am using the eco mode constantly but I definately won't try to change a battery while in that mode again. I don't know if it is more accurate or not but it is definately a warmer vape at the same settings almost too warm I have to use a lower setting. But thats ok.
 

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I've gotta say, Im pretty amazed and disappointed at many posts here slamming this software update.
Is it bug free....NO. What software is? But it's been given to us FREE of charge, and done so from the comfort of our own home!
In just a day, I've noticed it being much more accurate and consistent -- with multiple attys. Its working much better anywhere between 0.065 and 0.15 (the highest I've tried). Yihi once again listened to what people were asking for and in just about 8 weeks or so gave an update. My Kudos to them!

People complaining about the eco mode? Why would you even try and test it when multiple people reported the issue? Then complain when it does? Did it have Eco mode before? So, don't put it in Eco mode unit they release an update. Or revert back to v1.4. Or trade it in for an "E" unit that you can't update.

Sorry for the harshness..... but you do know yihi reads these forums. I havent seen one WOW, Thanks YiHi. Just complaints for giving you something you didn't have before.

Eh, no. If you read through the forums back about 6 or 7 pages, I am the one who even discovered the Eco bug problem, I just didnt know it was a bug with Eco mode (others however did figure it out).

The big software complaints were the gravity sensor and battery life, the battery life could have been addressed with a simple screen off timeout setting (which is likely the main reason for the increase in battery life when using Eco mode in the first place).

I am the one who listed the instructions for installing the software update and listed many of the changes and bugs that were introduced and if you read through the posts, I am the one mostly complaining about it.

This update should have been IMMEDIATELY pulled and fixed and repushed out when these problems were discovered, especially the battery in Eco mode, many not lurking around here on the forums likely probably think they have a bricked device now, I know I was ...... because I thought I had shorted the device somehow.

If my device becomes inconsistent, I buy a pack of smokes. When that happens, that mod maker has failed. I nearly did that yesterday, all because of a broken firmware update. Sure, now we know about Eco mode, but if you were the one who discovered it and couldnt figure out what caused it and were, as I was, unable to vape for an hour or so because you were getting a check battery everytime you put a new battery in, you might understand a bit more.

We need to start holding these companies responsible, this is the DEFINITION of fanboy'ism. The mod is great but the company did a bad thing and they need to be held responsible via criticism, just as DNA should have been held responsible for having no reverse battery protection on their DNA20 boards. Regardless of the quality of the device, leaving a user potentially unable to use their device is unacceptable.
 
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