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BNEAT

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I've had no issues with my 6 KF v4's and DNA40 devices. Some might change when I close the JC to refill but closing and opening again fixes the issue (connection).

Most devices have spring loaded 510's (all of mine do) but the ground connection is soldered to the pin so the ground isn't going thru the spring.
Ahhhh, that makes sense!
 

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I have to agree. As much as I loved my KF4, I did give up trying to use it with nickel - even with the Steamtuners upgrade. The problems are less bad with it, but still there's an intermittant funky connection problem (which you can even see with kanthal BTW). I have put my KF4 driptip on my Lemo2, and I can adjust the airflow so that it's really close. It's not entirely the same, but close enough, and it should balance out with the fact that it's so much easier to use with TC. I have had 0 (zero) problems so far since I got this setup, and every single build worked first time.
That's why I don't mess with my K4, the Kanger STM is my only choice at the present have 5 of them built with nickel and all are excellent. They K4 is excellent with Kanthal and tastes great.
 

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This is wholly UNTRUE.

Either, (1) the K4 in question is not authentic, (2) the builder has not built properly, or, (3) the K4 is not properly set up -- usually problem with parts # 9 and 10. This, with the stock gold spring.

My K4's could not be more predictable whether on the SX M or my DNA40's.

I'm glad for you that your K4's have worked so great for you. That doesn't make my reference to the numerous inconsistencies I'v read "UNTRUE". Look around, it's reported almost everywhere that the K4's are problematic with nickle builds. And as you mention, so much of a problem that there are after market kits, springs etc.. to help try to fix them to use with nickle.
 

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Is that like when a meteorologist predicts a 40% chance of rain? They're right either way?

Yes I use term like "I believe, I think, there maybe, it's possible etc.." when I'm making a comment that is regarding information I've read from unknown sources or is my "OPINION" and I would rather the reader not to be mislead into thinking it's definitive fact. I also make comments that are direct like "I know, There is, It will etc.." when I'm stating a verifiable "Fact" and I want the reader to understand it is a fact. Something your posts seem to miss the understanding or difference. As your posts are generally stated as fact but are rarely ever substantiated when questioned to do so.

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Are you 100% sure about this, and if so can you point me to the evidence? I ordered one last night, but I emailed VS today to ask about the warranty.

You'll be fine Amanda. No way does a manufacturer or distributor give up the kind of volume sales VS does. Danny's gone a bit off the deep end here with his opinion I think. You'll be well taken care of by VS, just like all their other customers.
 

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I'm glad for you that your K4's have worked so great for you. That doesn't make my reference to the numerous inconsistencies I'v read "UNTRUE". Look around, it's reported almost everywhere that the K4's are problematic with nickle builds. And as you mention, so much of a problem that there are after market kits, springs etc.. to help try to fix them to use with nickle.


I will begin to take your comments about the K4 seriously when you learn how to spell NICKEL. And, of course, when you speak from experience, not reports you've read...

Be assured I will not participate in back-and-forth for a the sake of ego and self-righteousness, a la "T" and "D".
 

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I will begin to take your comments about the K4 seriously when you learn how to spell NICKEL. And, of course, when you speak from experience, not reports you've read...

Be assured I will not participate in back-and-forth for a the sake of ego and self-righteousness, a la "T" and "D".

Well, I have SIX authentic decks and spent £560 UKP on my V4 stuff and 4 decks came direct from SM. I have mastered coil building and combing my wick with Japan cotton. I know how to start temps low and Joules and work my way up to stable temp for my liquid. I know how to sonic clean my V4s with a strip down and re-build. I lube all my o rings with VG. Carefully using a head magnifyer putting every part together with loving care. No matter what I do, I get connection issues with every build. Only twice have I have hit 10 ml without any problems. I am pretty ...... off with my V4s to say the least. But pleased for anyone who is not having issues.

I wrote a very polite note to SM asking for some advise. They did not reply :( When I first contacted them asking for several parts, I revieved a message within an hour. But any issues, silence.

Anyway, I do wish I never found these flacky tanks. And hope SM come up with a solution. Even kanthal I have the same issues. How can closing the JC and refilling change the RES? That is the issue.

Sorry for my rant. But it is not good enough to have all these issues. I have every upgrade I could find to try and fix these issues. They are still there. Such a shame. Vlad and others have been so kind to me. I would have given up weeks ago. I was so ready to just go back to smoking for another year but these guys kept me on track. Thank you all for that.

Nuff said. This tech needs some more time. No problem. Just a shame it took me so long and such an expence to realise. I am over 2k down since Jan of this year. So I now have a good idea of where this tech really is. It's people claiming this is soooo good that really pisses me off. So much BS around and only when you pay do you get to the truth.

That said I am hanging in there with what I have. I am not spending another penny. I will work with what I have until this tech matures a little. I really don't give a care what others say. Testing myself is the only way to go for me.

Take care all and I am still a happy chappy
 

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Right behind you...
Papa, do keep in mind that brands like SM, or Evolv, or whoever, have fans. And keep in mind the origin of that contracted word. Some don't respond well to criticism, and sometimes (oftentimes) take it as an attack on them, not the vaping product, sports team, political party, game console, or ice cream brand they're a fan of.

They're not rational about the subject in question, they simply can't be. So, just let it slide, they can't help themselves.
 

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Just a heads up ao Springs (read as spring loaded connections or a spring used in a atomizer)

Just because there is a spring in a 510 connector, that doesn't mean the connector sucks. Same goes with a atty spring.

A) the spring isn't part of the electric flow. Check out 510 connectors like the fat daddy. The pin is actually T shaped and the spring, albeit supporting the pin, isn't part of the circuit because the positive wire solders directly to the pin providing a solid connection.

B) the spring is part of the electric flow but is made of exquisite materials. The 2nd Gen stealthvape connectors have a gold plated beryllium copper spring. Works great and doesn't have a moving bottom bit.

Now put a cheap spring acting as a conductor and you're heading for disaster.

My opinion only :)

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Just a heads up ao Springs (read as spring loaded connections or a spring used in a atomizer)

Just because there is a spring in a 510 connector, that doesn't mean the connector sucks. Same goes with a atty spring.

A) the spring isn't part of the electric flow. Check out 510 connectors like the fat daddy. The pin is actually T shaped and the spring, albeit supporting the pin, isn't part of the circuit because the positive wire solders directly to the pin providing a solid connection.

B) the spring is part of the electric flow but is made of exquisite materials. The 2nd Gen stealthvape connectors have a gold plated beryllium copper spring. Works great and doesn't have a moving bottom bit.

Now put a cheap spring acting as a conductor and you're heading for disaster.

My opinion only :)

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Just ask a guy that owns FOUR Zen Attys - :-x

In case I didn't make it clear it is me that is represented by the emoticon in my first statement. They use a spring in the main 510 positive electrical path. They are useable with Kanthal (sort of). With Ni200 they don't even make good paper weights.
 
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Just ask a guy that owns FOUR Zen Attys - :-x

In case I didn't make it clear it is me that is represented by the emoticon in my first statement. They use a spring in the main 510 positive electrical path. They are useable with Kanthal (sort of). With Ni200 they don't even make good paper weights.
Yeah, for most part they suck lol. Remember my 1st gen disaster?

You can use regular Springs if they're not in the circuit path but when they are, they either be VERY good or it's definitely not worth the hassle. I'm using fd ones now unless I have some interior space constraints or risk wire breaking by constant atty change.

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Yeah, for most part they suck lol. Remember my 1st gen disaster?

You can use regular Springs if they're not in the circuit path but when they are, they either be VERY good or it's definitely not worth the hassle. I'm using fd ones now unless I have some interior space constraints or risk wire breaking by constant atty change.

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OK Tony, what is an "fd"?

Not only do they suck but they were not clones and they were expensive as an Atty I have seen. - not only is the spring the main circuit it is only a mechanical spring tension on both ends. Probably the worst case scenario for an Ni200 device.
 

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OK Tony, what is an "fd"?

Not only do they suck but they were not clones and they were expensive as an Atty I have seen. - not only is the spring the main circuit it is only a mechanical spring tension on both ends. Probably the worst case scenario for an Ni200 device.
Fd = fat daddy

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Just finished a couple servings of meatloaf, peas with biscuits and a salad on the side. Sitting here with my FOPA. :)


OK - Vlad, this is starting to look like a conspiracy to make me look dumber than I am... FOPA ??? I just know I am going to regret asking. :(
 

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OK - Vlad, this is starting to look like a conspiracy to make me look dumber than I am... FOPA ??? I just know I am going to regret asking. :(

lol, you'll have to look it up. I just learnt it the other day looking at something else came across that by accident. :lol: Fopa urban dictionary.
 
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