SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL)

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In fact, if Yihi open sourced the code, the user functionality of this device would explode, users could add features, change the menu and designs, etc. But every company is afraid to allow their community and fans to do this. It requires the bootloader to be non-writable so that users could easily restore to factory firmware if their device bricks (a non-writeable bootloader makes the device unbrickable) but my guess is that they dont have a non-writeable bootloader, ie. the bootloader is included in the firmware, which is creepy - you can tell because in order to turn the link on, the device has to be booted, theres no emergency recovery process.

Open source has its place, but generally no manufacturer will employ it were it can lead to serious product liability issues. For example, car manufacturers have been adamant that only properly licensed mechanics be able to access a car's software. Part of the reason for this may be to ensure commercial advantage against non-licensed mechanics, but a serious concern they point out is that modifying the software can make a car dangerous and a car owner may have no idea what modifications have been or their effect until it is too late. For the same reason, I doubt e-cig manufacturers will have any more interest in such an idea. All you need is one person modifying the code so that the product works in an unsafe manner, such that the manufacturer ends up with a big black eye from the resulting media coverage or lawsuit.
 

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My guess is that the testers are also programmers...and seeing the "&&" looks right to them after looking at code and writing code all day lol

&& is logical AND in a lot of programming languages, so maybe they think that's how it is used in normal English. Weirder things have happened. ;)
 
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I've tested this but not able to verify this as a bug as it worked as expected on my device. Maybe others can test and report back.
works ok for me
Gravity sensor turned off now though as sooner use the buttons & left/right display set to auto so the screen still tilts
 

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Open source doesnt mean a every man for himself, it means you have a repository and changes are committed and approved by the manufacturer. See how Google handles AOSP Android as an example.

As to the USB port charging, have a read through the instruction manual pdf on their website, its stated pretty clearly. They also state pretty clearly in either their news or faq, I cant remember which.

Download - SXmini M Class manual-English

Page 8, last bullet point:

The USB port mainly for upgrading purpose. It is better for you to take out the battery than charging for it. If you prefer using it for charging, please plug or unplug carefully to ensure its using life. The warranty life of the device is one year and the USB port is three months from the date of purchase by the end user.

This was added AFTER they started getting complaints that the USB port stopped working for people.

As to what to release about Eco mode? I dont know, maybe, its a bug, we're working on fixing it, in the meantime, heres how you fix it?
 

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Really guys, you want to try and convince me that this firmware update that leaves the device in a semi bricked state with no response from the company on how to fix it is Ok? Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Its not ok and we wouldnt put up with this on any other piece of electronics.

A few examples. Your shiny PS4, when you change your screen saver time to off, the next time you reboot your PS4, it no longer loads any games or software.

Your smart phone, when you change the screen timeout setting to Off, the next time you boot your phone, it wont connect to the internet (essentially making it useless).

You seriously expect me to believe that with any other device, youd be ok with a no response on an issue this big?

You mean to tell me that they should NOT pull the firmware and key up a quick response that would take a matter of 3 minutes in total?

Unfreaking believable.
 
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Open source doesnt mean a every man for himself, it means you have a repository and changes are committed and approved by the manufacturer. See how Google handles AOSP Android as an example.

As to the USB port charging, have a read through the instruction manual pdf on their website, its stated pretty clearly. They also state pretty clearly in either their news or faq, I cant remember which.

Download - SXmini M Class manual-English

Page 8, last bullet point:

The USB port mainly for upgrading purpose. It is better for you to take out the battery than charging for it. If you prefer using it for charging, please plug or unplug carefully to ensure its using life. The warranty life of the device is one year and the USB port is three months from the date of purchase by the end user.


This was added AFTER they started getting complaints that the USB port stopped working for people.

As to what to release about Eco mode? I dont know, maybe, its a bug, we're working on fixing it, in the meantime, heres how you fix it?

Here their english is actually pretty good for a change. LOL. It doesn't say DON'T or you CAN'T. Big difference. Yes.... USB ports are weak by nature, and why the recommend a battery swap -- which has been discussed quite a bit in this thread. Personally, unless absolutely necessary (on the road, no spare battery, etc...), not sure why anyone would prefer the USB port anyway. 450mAh charging vs. 2000mAh? 333 minutes vs. 75 minutes? As to the warranty for the USB port at 3 months, I actually think that's pretty good that they even offer any! Try returning a Galaxy or iPhone with a bad USB port. Your chances are about as good as getting a replacement for a shattered screen.
 

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I think we should all remember that we are all early adopters and beta testers for this first adition of temp tech. It's yihi's first device with this tech. Looking back at their S class, I think that is pretty much bullet proof. So they must have some very capable people behind them.

My view is we just have to go though some pain now, so everyone in the future can have a better time. That is how I look at my investment so far. So expect some bugs now and then or simply wait a few months and come back. I don't think the perfect device will be here for another 12 months. So for now we can either help out by testing and reporting back. Or sitting it out and see when it matures.

We really need companies like yihi. They seem to be right at the front with vape tech so let's try and see the bigger picture. That said, no one get's more ...... at this tech than me! I just know we are at a turning point.

We are lucky to have these companies as anyone with their right mind would wait for the legislation before investing.

Food for thought
 

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What about the "&&" bug. I can't believe they didn't fix this. I may just need to return mine. ;)
Thats a text string. Its Engrish. I was able to fix this bug using the Firmware editor posted earlier in the threat. Also changed the silly "Byebye" to "Powering Down"
 

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I think we should all remember that we are all early adopters and beta testers for this first adition of temp tech. It's yihi's first device with this tech. Looking back at their S class, I think that is pretty much bullet proof. So they must have some very capable people behind them.

My view is we just have to go though some pain now, so everyone in the future can have a better time. That is how I look at my investment so far. So expect some bugs now and then or simply wait a few months and come back. I don't think the perfect device will be here for another 12 months. So for now we can either help out by testing and reporting back. Or sitting it out and see when it matures.

We really need companies like yihi. They seem to be right at the front with vape tech so let's try and see the bigger picture. That said, no one get's more ...... at this tech than me! I just know we are at a turning point.

We are lucky to have these companies as anyone with their right mind would wait for the legislation before investing.

Food for thought

I completely agree, but that doesnt excuse the fact that the bad firmware is still up, there has been no official statement from them, and users are potentially sitting around with a borked device not knowing what to do / what is going on.

This is the only place Ive been since I got my SX a few days ago, I have no idea whether word is being spread in other areas of the interwebs to explain the problem and how to fix the device since I havent really been looking, but Yihi should be getting in front of this.

It does more harm than good to the community when we have a lack of communication with our vendors.
 

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I completely agree, but that doesnt excuse the fact that the bad firmware is still up, there has been no official statement from them, and users are potentially sitting around with a borked device not knowing what to do / what is going on.

This is the only place Ive been since I got my SX a few days ago, I have no idea whether word is being spread in other areas of the interwebs to explain the problem and how to fix the device since I havent really been looking, but Yihi should be getting in front of this.

It does more harm than good to the community when we have a lack of communication with our vendors.

Your name wouldn't happen to be Brandon would it?

Borked device? Its got a small bug. Tells you to check the battery. And guess what???? When you check the battery and reinsert it all is working again!

And it's not even 7am @ yihi. You want them to pull a firmware release in the middle of the night, when you yourself (who is the sole complainer -- yes we all want it fixed which it will be) hasn't even pulled it off your own unit.
 

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Really guys, you want to try and convince me that this firmware update that leaves the device in a semi bricked state with no response from the company on how to fix it is Ok? Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Its not ok and we wouldnt put up with this on any other piece of electronics.

A few examples. Your shiny PS4, when you change your screen saver time to off, the next time you reboot your PS4, it no longer loads any games or software.

Your smart phone, when you change the screen timeout setting to Off, the next time you boot your phone, it wont connect to the internet (essentially making it useless).

You seriously expect me to believe that with any other device, youd be ok with a no response on an issue this big?

You mean to tell me that they should NOT pull the firmware and key up a quick response that would take a matter of 3 minutes in total?

Unfreaking believable.
Big difference, is they sold more PS4 on the first hour than they have sold and will ever sell SX minis. Oh, and you have a global support team and sales offices.

With this, we are dealing with a Chinese company, who is essentially awake when we are sleeping. Due to the timing, you can't fault them for not responding when they would have barely had a chance to validate the claim let alone respond to it
 

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I completely agree, but that doesnt excuse the fact that the bad firmware is still up, there has been no official statement from them, and users are potentially sitting around with a borked device not knowing what to do / what is going on.

This is the only place Ive been since I got my SX a few days ago, I have no idea whether word is being spread in other areas of the interwebs to explain the problem and how to fix the device since I havent really been looking, but Yihi should be getting in front of this.

It does more harm than good to the community when we have a lack of communication with our vendors.

I'm understand your concern with the public / consumer but ultimately Yihi is the ones answering calls and emails and resolving the problems that are reported to them. They've posted fixes for numerous problems people may encounter doing the upgrade although perhaps not in the manner you would like. They are the ones in the end that have to answer to the consumer not you or me. The two trivial bugs that have been sent to me are an inconvenient nuisance nothing more. Don't blow it out of proportion, your beginning to appear to have a hidden agenda.
http://www.yihisxmini.com/download/Q-and-A-of-upgrade-for-YiHi SXmini-M-Class.pdf
 

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ERM its been a while since I dropped by since in truth I have lost interest in vaping, been selling off my mods.

Seems YiHi messed up here but a bit of a reality check been vaping YiHi boards for a while so the s/w updates are something you get used to done a few since my 1st SX350 in march 2014 and there has been a few since then!

YiHi will sort it there not the greatest at communication and I still have the crapola with the crappy paint on the M class, the rest of the world has to suck it and see. It amazes me you US vapers expect everything resolved straight away and get warranty etc for the rest of us a bit of time and it mostly gets sorted.

Given YiHi will offer fixes you can do yourself at some point. What excuse has evolv got send your board in V1,2,3,4 etc

Think yourself lucky every retailer / vendor here is saying ERM what's a s/w update you did it no warranty now!:)

And before people start flaming just use v1.4 and downgrade if it doesn't work for you enough! You don't have to use v2.1!

Vape on!
 

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I'm understand your concern with the public / consumer but ultimately Yihi is the ones answering calls and emails and resolving the problems that are reported to them. They've posted fixes for numerous problems people may encounter doing the upgrade although perhaps not in the manner you would like. They are the ones in the end that have to answer to the consumer not you or me. The two trivial bugs that have been sent to me are an inconvenient nuisance nothing more. Don't blow it out of proportion, your beginning to appear to have a hidden agenda.
http://www.yihisxmini.com/download/Q-and-A-of-upgrade-for-YiHi SXmini-M-Class.pdf
Man do me a favour I am half Chinese I can't take it Chinglish anymore! Someone please offer to do YiHi how to guides!;)

Vape on!
 

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I completely agree, but that doesnt excuse the fact that the bad firmware is still up, there has been no official statement from them, and users are potentially sitting around with a borked device not knowing what to do / what is going on.

This is the only place Ive been since I got my SX a few days ago, I have no idea whether word is being spread in other areas of the interwebs to explain the problem and how to fix the device since I havent really been looking, but Yihi should be getting in front of this.

It does more harm than good to the community when we have a lack of communication with our vendors.

As opposed to all the communication we got from Evolv, right?
 

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I actually think you just found a major bug. Were you running in ECO mode when you changed batteries?

Doubtful it'll blow, but I can persistently reproduce a major problem doing this. :( It's avoidable but a nuisance all the same.

Yep, Exactly what I was seeing. Seems ECO mode has some functions disabled that are needed when swapping batteries. Thankfully there's a workaround and they can update it.

It's a Major Nuisance IMO but completely avoidable if switched to another mode prior to changing batteries.

I'm understand your concern with the public / consumer but ultimately Yihi is the ones answering calls and emails and resolving the problems that are reported to them. They've posted fixes for numerous problems people may encounter doing the upgrade although perhaps not in the manner you would like. They are the ones in the end that have to answer to the consumer not you or me. The two trivial bugs that have been sent to me are an inconvenient nuisance nothing more. Don't blow it out of proportion, your beginning to appear to have a hidden agenda.
http://www.yihisxmini.com/download/Q-and-A-of-upgrade-for-YiHi SXmini-M-Class.pdf

littlewierdo..... when they say you might have a hidden agenda they are in attack mode......just avoid and state your opinion... funny how these bugs have gone from a major problem to a major nuisance to just a couple of trivial bugs....as stated by in the quoted posts.... bottom line is Yihi put out a bad update...own it guys....get it fixed and move on...I too asked Yihi to take down the update for the community's sake... all you can do is ask... Yihi will do what Yihi wants to do....
 
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