SXmini mod ... Yihi

[ahgnus]

I don't need to justify a damn thing in any of my vape-gear purchases.. Over 4 years ago, I spent around $255.00 each and every month on cigs / cigars for many years. When I made the decision to start vaping a little over 4 years ago, I saw it as a reduced-harm substitution to tobacco smoking.. I figured that I didn't deprive myself of tobacco, and the $$ it cost, why should I deprive myself of vape-gear for the same cost?

It's great that you can afford to set aside such generous vape budget. I sure am jealous.

It seems reasonable to assume that it will take some community experimentation to discover power level/build combos that are able to work well with temperature protection. Brandon from Evolv spoke about high temperatures producing a superheated layer of vaper that forms next to the coil which prevents the coil from being cooled starting at 41:11 in his Vapour Trails/Haze Hour's Dec. 4 interview. This would likely mean that at some point temperature protection will do nothing but throttle back user-selected power because air flow and wicking technique won't provide enough cooling to overcome the superheated layer of vaper produced by high power going to the coil.

I see. So it's back to air flow and wicking once again, temp-controlled or not. Like you mentioned, more will be revealed as the community experiments with different builds and settings. And I was just beginning to wonder, for experiments sake, about how I would personally build temp-controlled setup in order to achieve high watt output.

I would probably take a 30mm RDA and throw on a super-macro 'double' Clapton with wide open air flow. 'Double' Clapton is where you wrap a second layer on top of a regular Clapton. That's just what I call it. There is probably a different term coined for it. It seems to maximize juice contact area, bring out different flavor notes as 2 outer layers heat up at different rate, and produce coolder vape. Would all of that even matter at say 100+ watts?

 

[Wolfenstark]

I don't need to justify a damn thing in any of my vape-gear purchases.. Over 4 years ago, I spent around $255.00 each and every month on cigs / cigars for many years. When I made the decision to start vaping a little over 4 years ago, I saw it as a reduced-harm substitution to tobacco smoking.. I figured that I didn't deprive myself of tobacco, and the $$ it cost, why should I deprive myself of vape-gear for the same cost?

Come hell or high-water, I had my tobacco every month. Other things sometimes went on the back-burner because of it. To this day, $255.00 a month remains my vape-budget. Whatever I don't spend on gear, goes toward other budget expenses. Given the incredible accuracy, overall great build, and upcoming temp-protection, the SXmini needs no justification whatsoever IMO.. Most all of the other Chinese regulated devices currently available are cheaply made junk.. Again, just my opinion.

For me it's not a matter of justifying buying a product. I gather some people in Beverly Hills may be fine buying a $20 loaf of bread.
I try to judge products vs products. I don't think something well made should on its own be a reason for it to cost double something else , in that I expect a product to be well made. Cheaply made junk is not worth anything but just because something doesn't fall apart on me doesn't need to be highly priced.
I don't expect products to fall apart.
I used to read about the provari and how that lasts a long time etc , again well so it should. Other companies making crap doesn't to me mean you should make you product a lot more expensive just because it is not crap.
Obviously this sx mod should cost more than an istick and things like that.

This sx M class seems ok , not entirely sure if its mostly the same mod with some slight tweeks , though I did read that some of the hardware is different and its not just an update and you get the temp control. Some people are not sure how joules and temp will work.
$250 in my money coming out late March and It does read a lot better than a P3 at $280.

 

[DP2Raja]

I have a question. It may have been answered but so many posts on here its hard to find. How do you tell if the the battery is fully charged? Does the lightning bolt go away?

Erie,
Are you charging through the USB? I have never seen the lightning bolt, but I remove and charge my batteries so have never tried the USB connection to charge. When I pop a fresh bat in, it is just solid and then slowly drops as I use it.

 

[KC33]

For me it's not a matter of justifying buying a product. I gather some people in Beverly Hills may be fine buying a $20 loaf of bread.
I try to judge products vs products. I don't think something well made should on its own be a reason for it to cost double something else , in that I expect a product to be well made. Cheaply made junk is not worth anything but just because something doesn't fall apart on me doesn't need to be highly priced.
I don't expect products to fall apart.
I used to read about the provari and how that lasts a long time etc , again well so it should. Other companies making crap doesn't to me mean you should make you product a lot more expensive just because it is not crap.
Obviously this sx mod should cost more than an istick and things like that.

This sx M class seems ok , not entirely sure if its mostly the same mod with some slight tweeks , though I did read that some of the hardware is different and its not just an update and you get the temp control. Some people are not sure how joules and temp will work.
$250 in my money coming out late March and It does read a lot better than a P3 at $280.

Why do I have a feeling this conversation will go on forever and you probably won't buy a thing.

 

[erieboyz]

Erie,
Are you charging through the USB? I have never seen the lightning bolt, but I remove and charge my batteries so have never tried the USB connection to charge. When I pop a fresh bat in, it is just solid and then slowly drops as I use it.

Yes I'm charging it through USB.

 

[petemoss]

I have a question. It may have been answered but so many posts on here its hard to find. How do you tell if the the battery is fully charged? Does the lightning bolt go away?

No, it doesn't go away. I thought it was a defect but now I'm not sure. Once the voltage has been 4.2 volts for about a half hour, I unplug the USB cord. Wish it had a charging indicator light like my rDNA.

 

[DP2Raja]

No, it doesn't go away. I thought it was a defect but now I'm not sure. Once the voltage has been 4.2 volts for about a half hour, I unplug the USB cord. Wish it had a charging indicator light like my rDNA.

That's why I just remove the bat and pop a fresh charged one in. But what you are saying sounds exactly right Pete. I did hear the charging symbol never shuts off...

 

[erieboyz]

I felt the same way I don't want to take the batt out too much since the threading is not too good

 

[NavyChief52]

I felt the same way I don't want to take the batt out too much since the threading is not too good

There are a few of us that had issues with the USB Port. Mine just stopped working and I had to RMA it back to the store I bought it from for a replacement. I'll not use the USB any longer, I think it is a weak point on this mod.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

I felt the same way I don't want to take the batt out too much since the threading is not too good

I have no problem with the threading, just the amount of it. I always give my cap a light twist in my shirt and back spin until it clicks, then I know it will thread smoothly. Would I like better threads? Of course, but I'm not worried about the current ones.

 

[KC33]

I agree that we could use less threads but it's bothered me a lot less since I've been using my thumb, both to loosen and tighten. There's no need to tighten it too tight, the spring helps it make contact, so long as it's flush you're good to go.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Why do I have a feeling this conversation will go on forever and you probably won't buy a thing.

Because probably by the time this one comes out another one thats better will be dangled in front of us and that may keep happening.

 

[erieboyz]

There are a few of us that had issues with the USB Port. Mine just stopped working and I had to RMA it back to the store I bought it from for a replacement. I'll not use the USB any longer, I think it is a weak point on this mod.

A few is a lot better than many imho. Seen a lot of threads of devices with nothing but issues. This and the Sigelei seems to be the best out there. I wonder if the USB issues was with the first version because mine seen very solid.

I have no problem with the threading, just the amount of it. I always give my cap a light twist in my shirt and back spin until it clicks, then I know it will thread smoothly. Would I like better threads? Of course, but I'm not worried about the current ones.

Once you can catch the threads it's really smooth. I agree you don't have to tighten which is great.

I agree that we could use less threads but it's bothered me a lot less since I've been using my thumb, both to loosen and tighten. There's no need to tighten it too tight, the spring helps it make contact, so long as it's flush you're good to go.

I have to try that.

 

[erieboyz]

Because probably by the time this one comes out another one thats better will be dangled in front of us and that may keep happening.

Suck my mod had a great rant about that in his ipv mini review he posted last night. I work in the cell phone industry and it's crazy how devices get updated every few months. It's only incremental but it's enough to make you want to get the new version. Especially with android devices but that's another convo [emoji13]

 

[Wolfenstark]

Suck my mod had a great rant about that in his ipv mini review he posted last night. I work in the cell phone industry and it's crazy how devices get updated every few months. It's only incremental but it's enough to make you want to get the new version. Especially with android devices but that's another convo [emoji13]

Oh yeah chasing the technology tail is always going to be around.
Either your forever waiting or eventually get something. You just prefer it if the gap between current and improved is not that short.

 

[erieboyz]

Oh yeah chasing the technology tail is always going to be around.
Either your forever waiting or eventually get something. You just prefer it if the gap between current and improved is not that short.

Absolutely. For me, I eventually learned to be happy with with I have. I told myself when I got serious about vaping that I'll have a set amount and types and once I reach it I'll be done for a very long time. I'm now at that stage.

 

[ahgnus]

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[Kenho21]

Oh yeah chasing the technology tail is always going to be around.
Either your forever waiting or eventually get something. You just prefer it if the gap between current and improved is not that short.

I'm not too heavy into the chasing now, but I used to be. I had about $6,000 worth of devices, which is a lot for me, and spent almost all of that money on devices in a one year period. The way I used to chase the magical vape dragon was having the latest device, then selling it as soon as I caught a whiff of something better coming out and selling the current "best" device while it still held its value. That way, I was losing a much smaller percentage of money than I would've by just buying the new "best" outright. Still obviously spent a ton of money on devices in a short time though lol.

Now, I've sold off most of those devices, aside from a Provari, Kayfun Lite+ V2, bunch of eGos and Protanks. I just find a really awesome quality vape that satisfies me and use it until something I feel is justifiable as an upgrade comes along.

I think the SX Mini M-Class is going to be pretty awesome and I kinda feel like I got the vape bug again...scary...[emoji51]

 

[KC33]

I think the SX Mini M-Class is going to be pretty awesome and I kinda feel like I got the vape bug again...scary...[emoji51]

I spent quite a bit on the latest and greatest but since I got into VW devices my need to buy the newest mech and RDA has really slowed down. I've kept two mechs, a Surfrider and Dominus LE and for the first time in about 2 weeks I used my HOBO with the SRider to test some new juice. If I keep this up I'll be saving a lot of dough.

 

[Kenho21]

I spent quite a bit on the latest and greatest but since I got into VW devices my need to buy the newest mech and RDA has really slowed down..

Yea, now that VW devices have come to the place they're at (long way from the Darwin!), mechs don't make a ton of sense for my style of vaping anymore. I like easy, low maintenance, relatively worry free stuff nowadays.