SXmini Q Class Powered by YiHi SX450 Chip Part 2

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It's a SX Mini Q Class thread, I post real concerns, and I can already feel the tension and hate. No need to worry about me, I'll be leaving this forum and never logging back in, not a fan of posting in mindless sheeple country. I now see why every other vaping forum says 'Go back to ECF' when people act like, well, you people. All I did was list my concerns, and I get flak for it? God forbid I have an opinion that's different than someone else's. God forbid anyone be offended, let's all just listen to the nice companies and give them our money. If someone else doesn't like the product, wants to warn people of red flags, let's try to get him out. If it's not safe at 200W, don't release a 200W mod for idiots to go buy, vent batteries in, then get a news story funding big-tobacco hate for us. I guess it all comes down if you can vape today and smile, not the future, not people's money, not concerns. Just press the button, s1ck vap0rs, and go about your day. Glad I didn't waste too much time here, I equate this forum to Jonestown.

Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite mod that uses more than one 18650?
 

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Seems to me the Q is no different in function that the ML. Both have the same operational features. The Q does have dual batteries and is listed as 200 watts (no discussion of battery safety in my post). The Q is bigger than the ML and since it is made of the same material as the ML it will be very heavy. The ML was the heaviest device I ever owned.
 

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Seems to me the Q is no different in function that the ML. Both have the same operational features. The Q does have dual batteries and is listed as 200 watts (no discussion of battery safety in my post). The Q is bigger than the ML and since it is made of the same material as the ML it will be very heavy. The ML was the heaviest device I ever owned.

I agree I think it will be very heavy. I wish YIHI would have made the ML and the Q out of aluminum or impact resistant plastic like the Provape Radius. YIHI needs to come out with a belt holster for the Q now because I think it will be heavier than most people will want to carry in their pocket. I plan on the Q to be my home mod and my ML to be my out and about mod. :cool:
 

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I hope it won't be heavier than RX200.

I'm guessing it will be but we won't know until the end of next month unless YIHI posts the weight on their FB page. I can post the question there and see if it gets answered. Do you carry the RX200 around with you while you're away from home?
 

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I'm guessing it will be but we won't know until the end of next month unless YIHI posts the weight on their FB page. I can post the question there and see if it gets answered. Do you carry the RX200 around with you while you're away from home?

Nah, both Wismec RX and DNA200 is my home vape mods. To bring them out and about I would need an shoulder holster to carry them. But these two are my heaviest mods and if Q Class were to be as heavy, I don't mind bringing it out because it might be similar to the dimension of IPV5, I think.
 
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I'm guessing it will be but we won't know until the end of next month unless YIHI posts the weight on their FB page. I can post the question there and see if it gets answered. Do you carry the RX200 around with you while you're away from home?

I posted that question there, and other questions, a long time ago and not a single reply to any question.... but you can try....
 

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So you think it will stand the test of time, do you have the m class or ml class of the mini and how has it held up?
I have two M class mods, well two in the house as one is my wife's. Mine was purchased last April and hers in June. Hers was replaced by the vendor for a battery tube thread issue after a couple months of use. Both have had some finish issues. Imo they are solid performers and if they fit your needs you should be satisfied with the M or the ML. I would hold off and purchase after the release of the Q to see what that does to the pricing of the ML.

They aren't concerns, they're REAL technological limitations. There's one thing about preference, then there's straight denial.

1. There are no true 30A CDR 18650's
2. Getting a flat, direct 200W even with boost safely out of two 18650's is impossible.
3. Firing anything under 0.01ohms with only 200W at a vapable voltage is impossible.
4. The software screenshots look extremely cheap and poorly put together.
5. The price tag is outrageous considering the last mod they released was the same price and launched with software issues.
6. Some of the claims it has are very dubious sounding.
7. It appears to be a desperate, rushed device that was announced only weeks after the ML class failed to gain any real traction.
8. Yihi hasn't been doing too well lately.

These aren't exactly matters of opinion, they're facts. When people ignore that many red flags it just looks like, well, denial. Yihi releasing a flagship mod two months after a version two of their old flagship mod was released to poor responses from customers is SKETCHY. Then all these claims, some of which are basically lies. I just don't find it right to see hype being drummed up for a mod that can't do some of the things it says, and that isn't opinion, I won't have to wait for it to be released, you can't just change the fundamental limitations of electronics.

Not sure if your Bye Felicia post was genuine or not but I will take the time to reply anyways.

I am not sure why you think Yihi is not doing to well currently. Is this a opinion statement or do you have some data to show that they are struggling?

Sure imo the ML may have been kind of a odd release when the Q was already on the drawing board and truthfully I expect the price of the ML to drop with the release of the Q and if it does that might cause some butthurt to the people that paid two bills for it.

It seems to me that Evolv rushed the dna 200 release and relied on firmware fixes to keep the machine rolling and while we all wish we were not paying to beta testers at least with firmware updated devices a patch is often soon to follow known issues.

Price is subjective and while this device may not ever appeal to many due to the cost I believe they will appeal well to the type that will spend their money on a SX or dna200. Of course I wish I could grab the Q for the price of a RX200 but in turn I wish I could snag a Mel, Wap, Top Hat, Zero, or any other of the usual suspects for true RRP.

Exaggerated claims is not a uncommon in the mod market. Sure there are a couple exceptions like Provape and maybe Evolv but for most some exaggeration happens. In my opinion most of the exaggeration of specs when it comes to Yihi tends to happen more with their budget boards that go into the ipv line for example, and that so far the top tier of their boards have been consistent with their claims. So will the Q be able to carry that same expectation? That for me has yet to be determined, but many of us that will throw a couple hundred at this device is doing so based off our past experiences with the SX devices and our experiences with their top tier line of boards.

For me their has yet to be that one perfect device. I enjoy my Opus 200 without issue but would find the recharge time to be a serious con for the device if it was my only mod. The M class I find can be a little bit limiting as to what it can do and I find it can chew through some batts throughout the day. The list can go on and on for any of my mods here, but the point is that they all have their pros and cons and as a consumer it is up to me to decide what checks as many boxes of my desires that I want out of a mod.
While the Q will not be for everyone and no doubt some will buy it and turn right around and sell it due to weight, size, or just a preference to another device. Bottom line is that it is just a mod and not that serious. You either want it or you don't.

I ran across a new photo of the Q on FB and I have to admit the size did surprise me but it's not going to stop me from buying one. :cool:

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The size is a bit of a disappointment to me. I have a Renegade RGX II from Varitube with the v2 J board in it and it is just a hair taller than the M class and with two batts feels a touch lighter than the M class. I have heard that the Q board will not be a modders board (at least not for awhile) so the only way initially to experience the Q will be through this device. I forgot about the Breezy sale and I am digging the Renegade, so I might just hold off on the Q until it is released to let them work out the bugs and to get the real specs especially the size and the weight.
 
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I posted that question there, and other questions, a long time ago and not a single reply to any question.... but you can try....

I posted the question about weight there but it's hard to say when it will be answered since they're all probably busy getting ready for the TPE convention on the 16th.
 

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The size is a bit of a disappointment to me. I have a Renegade RGX II from Varitube with the v2 J board in it and it is just a hair taller than the M class and with two batts feels a touch lighter than the M class. I have heard that the Q board will not be a modders board (at least not for awhile) so the only way initially to experience the Q will be through this device. I forgot about the Breezy sale and I am digging the Renegade, so I might just hold off on the Q until it is released to let them work out the bugs and to get the real specs especially the size and the weight.

I'm surprised to hear the Renegade is only a hair taller than the M. The photos make it look a lot bigger. Since the Renegade is only slightly taller than the M it make me wonder why the Q is so tall. Maybe the board is taller the the M board.
 

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I'm surprised to hear the Renegade is only a hair taller than the M. The photos make it look a lot bigger. Since the Renegade is only slightly taller than the M it make me wonder why the Q is so tall. Maybe the board is taller the the M board.
The Renegade RGX II surprised me on the size. It has the same board as the ML but I too am thinking the Q board must be bigger because the pic above is way bigger than I was expecting. I'll post some pics of the Renegade for size comparison of the M with a sleeve. Sorry for the crappy pics I was lazy and was just going for size comparison as I assure you the Renegade looks way more awesome than I captured lol.
Both mods also have the same tank on them.
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The Renegade RGX II surprised me on the size. It has the same board as the ML but I too am thinking the Q board must be bigger because the pic above is way bigger than I was expecting. I'll post some pics of the Renegade for size comparison of the M with a sleeve. Sorry for the crappy pics I was lazy and was just going for size comparison as I assure you the Renegade looks way more awesome than I captured lol.
Both mods also have the same tank on them.
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The Renegade looks like a good size for a dual battery mod. Even looks pocket friendly. :cool:
 

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The Renegade looks like a good size for a dual battery mod. Even looks pocket friendly. :cool:
Thanks man, it really is a nice feeling box. I was not sure how big it was going to be as I heard it was pretty small for a dual batt, but the pics do not make it look small on the site. The opposite side of the screen has a slight rounding to it as well so it takes some of the "it's just a square box" factor away from it.

Perry did a nice job on the Renegades and they are solid mods with a great warranty. He stands behind his work!
This one actually came from SP Custom rather than Perry, but SP does some of the box building for Varitube and is an authorized builder for them. I could of gotten it a few bucks cheaper from Perry with a coupon code from a group, but at the time the Varitube site did not have the powder coat color options and SP throws in some free laser engraving. Both Perry from Varitube and Thomas from SP stand behind the product, so either way you go it is a sound investment from a builder that you do not have to worry about closing up shop and leaving you hanging.

Sorry for the thread derail. I am still thrown off on the size of the Q shown next to the ML. I really had hoped it would be something closer to the Renegade.
 
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