Taifun GT Discusion!

[Rule62]

New Taifun GT build I've been experimenting with, and thought I'd share.

Before building, pull out the stock ss air tube, leaving the plastic piece in place.
Go to Ace Hardware and buy a #44 drill bit
Wrap a 7/8 wrap mini (wraps touching) on the #44 drill bit shank.
Torch the coil to compress it, so that all wraps are touching.
Mount the coil in the Taifun. It should be around .95 ohms + or -
Make a threader from a piece of 26g or 28g wire, by folding the wire into a 'V'.
Cut a small piece of Peaches 'n Cream cotton yarn.
Double the yarn, and insert it into your wire 'threader'.
Feed the other end of the threader through the center of the mounted coil.
Carefully pull the threader and doubled piece of yarn through the coil. It will slide through with just the right amount of resistance.
Trim the ends of the yarn about 2mm beyond the edge of the chamber.
Put a few drops of your juice on the cotton, to moisten it.
Put the cap on the chamber.
Fill the tank, and reassemble.

I think you'll like it.

 

[nelsonm64]

yo Rule62, what size is a #44 roughly? around 5/64th's? that's what I currently use for Taifun/Kayfun

 

[jpcwon]

very cool, I'll have to give that a try!!

I am having really good luck with my regular cotton/microcoil setup, but the Taifun seems like a great platform for experimenting (as is the Kayfun)....I am going to give this a try, just gotta pick up some peaches & cream....

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[Bill's Magic Vapor]

yo Rule62, what size is a #44 roughly? around 5/64th's? that's what I currently use for Taifun/Kayfun

A 44 drill bit is .0860 inches. Chart: View attachment Microcoils and Resistance Chart.pdf

 

[Rule62]

yo Rule62, what size is a #44 roughly? around 5/64th's? that's what I currently use for Taifun/Kayfun

I like the #44 because I was looking for something to use doubled cotton yarn. 5/64 felt a bit small. 3/32 seemed a bit loose. So I tried a #43 and #44, both of which are in between. The reason I wanted to try cotton yarn to begin with actually started out as an experiment with my GP Spheroid. I normally like using cotton ball cotton, and 1/16 diameter micro coils. But it doesn't work well in the Spheroid, because the cotton eventually sags, and looses contact with the filler material. So, I figured the yarn would hold up better.
The #44 drill/yarn combo also works well in the Squape and the Kayfun.

 

[we87]

.....The ribbon conventional coil seems to singe my wick after around 30mL, while I had to rewick every 10-15mL with 28ga round wire microcoils.

So you refill your tank six times before you have to replace your cotton? That's ridiculous! I've always just replaced cotton with every fill, but I usually change flavors after I'm done with a tank.

What type of cotton are you using? And are you rolling it tight? From you picture it really doesn't look tight looks fluffy.


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[silber]

So I've been having a bit of trouble and I think its mostly related to high VG juice. I'll be vaping, then all of the sudden it ....s 5ml of juice out of the airhole and either one or both of the wicks will get pulled inside the atomization chamber. At first I thought it was just the deck cover or juice flow moving around when I threaded the tank on, but it just happened to me on an almost empty tank, so it probably wasn't an adjustment moving around. Any ideas what causes this and what I can do to fix it? My first thought was that too much negative pressure is inside & I should open up my juice flow control more, but I'm all ears on ideas!

 

[nelsonm64]

A 44 drill bit is .0860 inches. Chart: View attachment 306597

thanks man, this will come in handy!

I like the #44 because I was looking for something to use doubled cotton yarn. 5/64 felt a bit small. 3/32 seemed a bit loose. So I tried a #43 and #44, both of which are in between. The reason I wanted to try cotton yarn to begin with actually started out as an experiment with my GP Spheroid. I normally like using cotton ball cotton, and 1/16 diameter micro coils. But it doesn't work well in the Spheroid, because the cotton eventually sags, and looses contact with the filler material. So, I figured the yarn would hold up better.
The #44 drill/yarn combo also works well in the Squape and the Kayfun.

I think i'm going to invest in some small assorted metric drill bits. you've givin me a new reason to experiment normaly I use a 1/16 on my submersibles and 5/64 on everything else, time to mix it up haha...

I think a guy needs one of those coil making gadgets with a nice assortment of sizes.

 

[bapgood]

So I've been having a bit of trouble and I think its mostly related to high VG juice. I'll be vaping, then all of the sudden it ....s 5ml of juice out of the airhole and either one or both of the wicks will get pulled inside the atomization chamber. At first I thought it was just the deck cover or juice flow moving around when I threaded the tank on, but it just happened to me on an almost empty tank, so it probably wasn't an adjustment moving around. Any ideas what causes this and what I can do to fix it? My first thought was that too much negative pressure is inside & I should open up my juice flow control more, but I'm all ears on ideas!

Are you in the correct thread? My TGT's don't have juice flow control, and have never seen one that did.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

thanks man, this will come in handy!


I think i'm going to invest in some small assorted metric drill bits. you've givin me a new reason to experiment normaly I use a 1/16 on my submersibles and 5/64 on everything else, time to mix it up haha...

I think a guy needs one of those coil making gadgets with a nice assortment of sizes.

Here's a coil gadget gizmo jig that I use to make some coils:



That coil, btw, is not annealed or torched. It has awesome coil tension, compression, adhesion and coil memory because of the high tension imparted into the coil with the use of a jig on the 1/16" stainless mandrel. Sure I can do it by hand, but a coiler jig, with the jig and dereeler spool both mounted, allows significantly higher tension that I can do by hand personally. The robust drill chuck allows for any mandrel size. Of course, I do fire the coil prior to vaping, and do check the ohms, LOL. Really vapes quite excellently. I'm continuing to work on my coiler jig and will be adding a skeleton reel this next week to create consistent, adjustable drag at the dereeler. We shall see. Good luck!

 

[silber]

You can adjust the height of the wick holes by how far you thread the top atty chamber piece, the o-ring keeps everything in place & you need to torque it pretty hard to fully thread it so I always assumed it was meant to be a point of adjustment.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

You can adjust the height of the wick holes by how far you thread the top atty chamber piece, the o-ring keeps everything in place & you need to torque it pretty hard to fully thread it so I always assumed it was meant to be a point of adjustment.

Wouldn't this cause flooding? Seems like the wicking is taking the role of juice control fairly completely, and the air flow control, de facto juice control, is really with the different air tubes under the coil, or removal of same, I would think. I haven't gotten any leaking yet, but I am going to be playing with the air flow with modifications soon. I had to wait for backups to arrive (last week), and I will be trying to the larger 1.5mm air tube first. May do it for me. We shall see. It's not that bad now, but it's not as good as it could be probably. Anyway, another fun project.

 

[CABBA]

Great info. I'm
Going to try a cotton micro-coil; I pulled the air tube already but I'm going to pull the insulator as well.
I tried the PBusardo build (ss mesh with silica on top) but I'm not really happy with it and I think the mesh is causing my juice to change color.
I'll have to try some of the techniques here and see how that fairs.


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[jpcwon]

Great info. I'm
Going to try a cotton micro-coil; I pulled the air tube already but I'm going to pull the insulator as well.
I tried the PBusardo build (ss mesh with silica on top) but I'm not really happy with it and I think the mesh is causing my juice to change color.
I'll have to try some of the techniques here and see how that fairs.


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Having excellent luck with cotton/microcoil over here. I have built 2 coils for the GT now; one 1.8 ohms & one 1.3 ohms...both with 28ga Kanthal....I rewicked each coil once, so I've now had 4 cotton wicks in the GT with zero flooding & fantastic flavor....

. You'll want to make sure that you don't use too much cotton, though. I tried leaving the ends longer & "doubling them up" by folding them back onto each other, but it did not allow enough juice through & caused dry hits. Conversely, you do not want too little cotton or you will get flooding (found this out the hard way too). I found that if you use just the right amount of cotton, then it will allow just the right amount of juice through & you should get great flavor & no flooding.....Give it a try!! I was going to try PBusardo's method, but I honestly have been loving the cotton setup so much I might stick with it!!

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[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Having excellent luck with cotton/microcoil over here. I have built 2 coils for the GT now; one 1.8 ohms & one 1.3 ohms...both with 28ga Kanthal....I rewicked each coil once, so I've now had 4 cotton wicks in the GT with zero flooding & fantastic flavor....

. You'll want to make sure that you don't use too much cotton, though. I tried leaving the ends longer & "doubling them up" by folding them back onto each other, but it did not allow enough juice through & caused dry hits. Conversely, you do not want too little cotton or you will get flooding (found this out the hard way too). I found that if you use just the right amount of cotton, then it will allow just the right amount of juice through & you should get great flavor & no flooding.....Give it a try!! I was going to try PBusardo's method, but I honestly have been loving the cotton setup so much I might stick with it!!

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Yes, wicking in the Goldilocks zone. Not too much, not too little. I've tried the mesh and all kinds of combinations. I like the cotton micro coil program the best. I think air flow is the most important variable left for me to attend to on my GT's. Next week probably.

 

[silber]

So you refill your tank six times before you have to replace your cotton? That's ridiculous! I've always just replaced cotton with every fill, but I usually change flavors after I'm done with a tank.

What type of cotton are you using? And are you rolling it tight? From you picture it really doesn't look tight looks fluffy.


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Sorry I missed this. Just some regular old organic cotton from the grocery store, boiled twice. Yep, the trick to not singing the wick throughout many tanks seems to be doing the cotton fluffy, especially where it contacts the coil. I usually replace the cotton every tank to change flavors, but I was able to make it though a lot of juice when I stuck to one flavor for about a week.

The trick to the wick is to get that perfect balance between not using too much cotton & not getting flooding. Once you get it right a few times, it'll become second nature. I leave it fluffed, roll the very tip, and go for a kind of dumbbell-shape where the cotton flares/fluffs out where it goes in the juice channel.

Only problem I've had with this setup, is that I sometimes suck one of the cotton tails through and flood it when I'm using 90%+vg juice, keeping things around 30/70 or less vg seems to work perfectly.

 

[jpcwon]

Yes, wicking in the Goldilocks zone. Not too much, not too little. I've tried the mesh and all kinds of combinations. I like the cotton micro coil program the best. I think air flow is the most important variable left for me to attend to on my GT's. Next week probably.

Yep, me too....I got a 1.5mm air tube coming soon, so I'll try that first....Not that it's bad now per se, but a bit on the tight side....still, even the way it is now after vaping it for a few days, I think it's my new favorite atty.....just the ease in setup & the overall design...I am a big fan!!

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[dwcraig1]

You can adjust the height of the wick holes by how far you thread the top atty chamber piece, the o-ring keeps everything in place & you need to torque it pretty hard to fully thread it so I always assumed it was meant to be a point of adjustment.

I guess it could "offer" some adjustment that way but I doubt if that is intentional.
Other than the chamber turning and pulling the wicks in the only other thing I can think of would be the wicks sagging from the weight of the juice although that sounds like a long shot.

 

[nelsonm64]

Here's a coil gadget gizmo jig that I use to make some coils:

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That coil, btw, is not annealed or torched. It has awesome coil tension, compression, adhesion and coil memory because of the high tension imparted into the coil with the use of a jig on the 1/16" stainless mandrel. Sure I can do it by hand, but a coiler jig, with the jig and dereeler spool both mounted, allows significantly higher tension that I can do by hand personally. The robust drill chuck allows for any mandrel size. Of course, I do fire the coil prior to vaping, and do check the ohms, LOL. Really vapes quite excellently. I'm continuing to work on my coiler jig and will be adding a skeleton reel this next week to create consistent, adjustable drag at the dereeler. We shall see. Good luck!

holly crap man, that's one badass coil maker. looks like it does a good job....

 

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