Taifun GT Discusion!

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scratchtheweasel

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Is the TGT-S the AFC version? The AFC version I bought from FT has the red rings. They seem a little more temperamental than the one on my other GT clone, but still had only one incident of complete fail where joose leaked out all over the place. At some point I'm going to grab the oring bundle recommended on this thread and replace them, but it hasn't been bad enough to motivate me to do so quickly. ;)
 

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Is the TGT-S the AFC version? The AFC version I bought from FT has the red rings. They seem a little more temperamental than the one on my other GT clone, but still had only one incident of complete fail where joose leaked out all over the place. At some point I'm going to grab the oring bundle recommended on this thread and replace them, but it hasn't been bad enough to motivate me to do so quickly. ;)

Yep, that's the one. It vapes good.
 

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Yeah I get the vacuum effect for sure, but you have to admit that gravity plays a small factor with those. I guess my point is, is that there is always a chance that with a kayfun, one side may not be wicking even if the other side is wicking perfectly. It seems nearly impossible for the taifun to have that issue because the wicks are always exposed to the juice. This does mean though, that if there is any leaking, the leaking is going to be bad. My problem with the kayfun, Erlkonigin, and squape reloaded has primarily been dry hits, and thus wattage limitations because the device won't wick fast enough. Maybe I just suck at building, but I've been doing rebuildable attys for a while now, and I mastered genesis builds a long time ago before I made the switch to a Russian 91. I eventually got a reo and that's where the fun began. But I couldn't resist a p3 because I sold my 2.5 to fund the reo. Since getting the p3, I've been looking for the perfect tank for it. Closest I've come has been the beyond vape silo, even above the kayfun 2.0, erlkonigin and squape reloaded because the silo is consistently GOOD. sure I can't really go above 13 watts with it, but I enjoy the heck out of it. The gt2 meets all my requirements. Afc, juice flow adjustment, glass tank, good capacity and easy to fill. I really want to see a comparison video between the gt2 and the kayfun 4. They both tailor to the same market, but it seems like almost nobody on this forum besides us even knows about the gt2. I got super lucky that I saw the gt2 was being released, and even luckier that I got one

Pressure not gravity. Gravity alone would cause our juice to run out the 510 connection. No, it's pressure baby! Water runs uphill with negative pressure quite easily actually. Basic fluid dynamics, first year engineering school. State O'Flux is such an engineer, a respected member and long-time friend. He knows his stuff.

With both the Taifun and Kayfun, the wicks stay immersed in the juice because of the pressure seal and negative pressure effect. It's physics and mechanics of differential pressure fluid dynamics. Does it defy reason that liquid could flow upstream? Yes, until we learn that even the Romans used devices, based on pressure, that caused water to run uphill using hydrostatic techniques that we see at every kid's science fair for the last 100 years. I'm sure you've seen these demonstrations, it's just that we don't realize this is the science behind our tank atomizers. :D

Of course, proper wicking plays a role in the pressure seal, as SOF points out, and that can be just tricky enough to make for difficulties at the pressure seal, particularly when we first start making coils and wicks. Materials, design, draw intensity, distance, etc. all play a role in these designs, and, as it turns out, it's actually pretty fun to play with them and learn this skill. I do wood working, and hydrostatic levels can still be found based on these same principles. :toast:

I haven't played with the GT2 yet, but I am looking forward to it! Right after my new No. 7 jointer and a new LN Jack Plane! (I've got the bug...:facepalm:).

I wish you well in your vape journey! Good luck! :D

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Pressure not gravity. Gravity alone would cause our juice to run out the 510 connection. No, it's pressure baby! Water runs uphill with negative pressure quite easily actually. Basic fluid dynamics, first year engineering school. State O'Flux is such an engineer, a respected member and long-time friend. He knows his stuff.

With both the Taifun and Kayfun, the wicks stay immersed in the juice because of the pressure seal and negative pressure effect. It's physics and mechanics of differential pressure fluid dynamics. Does it defy reason that liquid could flow upstream? Yes, until we learn that even the Romans used devices, based on pressure, that caused water to run uphill using hydrostatic techniques that we see at every kid's science fair for the last 100 years. I'm sure you've seen these demonstrations, it's just that we don't realize this is the science behind our tank atomizers. :D

Of course, proper wicking plays a role in the pressure seal, as SOF points out, and that can be just tricky enough to make for difficulties at the pressure seal, particularly when we first start making coils and wicks. Materials, design, draw intensity, distance, etc. all play a role in these designs, and, as it turns out, it's actually pretty fun to play with them and learn this skill. I do wood working, and hydrostatic levels can still be found based on these same principles. :toast:

I haven't played with the GT2 yet, but I am looking forward to it! Right after my new No. 7 jointer and a new LN Jack Plane! (I've got the bug...:facepalm:).

I wish you well in your vape journey! Good luck! :D

:2cool: :vapor:
Haha we have some geniuses on this forum for sure. I'm very excited to receive mine!
 

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But for the Bernoulli effect airplanes would not be "lighter than air" defying gravity and people with asthma would be unable to inhale topical dilating drugs. Bill, thanks for the tutorial and a bit of history, most informative.

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Indeed! Lift is nothing but pressure differential above and below the wing, and accounts for the wing's design. I think most people know the paper trick. Put the paper under your lower lip, hanging down. Blow straight out and watch the paper lift up to the horizontal. Bernoulli lives....:toast:
 

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I think when you see one side of your old wick looking different from the other, its due to the tilt as we vape. If you're using a box mod or regulated tube mod, you tend to hold it the same way each time.

Even my mechs, I often do. My stingrays all have the copper cutouts/engravings. I try to keep my fingers from touching them so they don't patina as quickly :). However, I don't do that with my Paps or Paragon. And yes, I see those differences when I rewick.

The other thing that may account for it is one side of the wick got compressed passing through the coil. I always try to fluff it out to match the other side, but its often less fluffy.
 

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Indeed! Lift is nothing but pressure differential above and below the wing, and accounts for the wing's design. I think most people know the paper trick. Put the paper under your lower lip, hanging down. Blow straight out and watch the paper lift up to the horizontal. Bernoulli lives....:toast:

Do you have a math or physics or engineering background? I majored in math and minored in physics :). We could have fun discussions here :D
 

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Do you have a math or physics or engineering background? I majored in math and minored in physics :). We could have fun discussions here :D

I do, but that was almost 40 years ago. I'm a businessman.....for most of the past 40 years, and probably better versed in economics and finance, rather than engineering and physics. Math has been very useful, along the way. There are far more nimble physics and engineering minds on ECF, and I often quote their work, which became their life's work, in many cases. I'm not that guy, but thank you for the invitation. Good luck in your vape journey.
 

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Hi Bill. I just wanted to say thank you for this

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It is still my most valued tool.
 

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I do, but that was almost 40 years ago. I'm a businessman.....for most of the past 40 years, and probably better versed in economics and finance, rather than engineering and physics. Math has been very useful, along the way. There are far more nimble physics and engineering minds on ECF, and I often quote their work, which became their life's work, in many cases. I'm not that guy, but thank you for the invitation. Good luck in your vape journey.

You've done a fantastic job here, sir. I don't even have my TGT now, but I've read this entire thread. When I wanted my first RBA, this was the most useful thread I read :). I was going to get a kayfun, but then decided a Taifun was better. I would still be vaping it, but someone needed it more. I do want the new one, but likely will need to wait for a clone.
 
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