Taifun GT Discusion!

[h00ligan]

You basically make an 8 wrap
Coil. Split in in half by bending the outsides down both leads wind up in the middle of the -8- like that. It starts with 8 wraps. I push mine to
The end of what I'm wrapping and at four wraps push it down. Just make sure the leads are on the same
Side. It's very very easy to make. I split mine off a little more to allow more air to get in. It's basically a double chimney coil

YouTube has several examples if you want to see them made. But
Literally fold an 8 wrap coil in half.

 

[chanelvaps]

I tried a bunch of clones and they all sucked. I ended up buying an authentic. The reason they sucked was the -s removable base caused a ton of connectivity issues. The authentic, if you like the clone will blow you away fit and finish wise. Gt2 is one of the few clones I bought that never worked right and I went out and bought the authentic

this goes against what most say. After about two years and hearing from peeps that had both (authentic and clones), I am a firm believer that there is not a lot of difference. I know why folks vouch for the authentic. I am a believer in the real thing when it comes to a designer something (Louis Vuitton handbag) and will pay the money for the real deal when it matters. In the case of the Taifun I do not think it does.

 

[h00ligan]

this goes against what most say. After about two years and hearing from peeps that had both (authentic and clones), I am a firm believer that there is not a lot of difference. I know why folks vouch for the authentic. I am a believer in the real thing when it comes to a designer something (Louis Vuitton handbag) and will pay the money for the real deal when it matters. In the case of the Taifun I do not think it does.

That just hasn't been my experience more often than not. The more complicated the design the worse the clone. I just saw some mark bugs gem clones and even in pictures they look terrible.

I think there are some very good clones out there. This one piece I couldn't find one that worked worth a damn but I wasn't willing to put $100 into finding one vs buying an authentic second hand. When the clones are $20-25 per and you have to buy three and none of them have resale. When does it become better to just buy and sell authentics? You may lose $50 at the absolute most if you use an authentic for a vey very long time. If you use it for six months and choose something in relative demand you lose $30. Which isn't much more than buying one clone and probably less than buying two or three to find a good one.

If it was easier to return stuff to fasttech I'd probably buy more clones again. I have a few clones here that I love. Starting with the ehpro kayfun lite plus v2 which to me is better than the authentic due to dual air holes. Another great clone. Tobeco hurricane - my bottom pin was wonky and it doesn't have spring loading but in practical use its great. The reseller also offered to swap it on eBay by I didn't end up needing too. I feel the hurricane people totally ripped off taifun design as did the über toot. I have no problem buying clones of either of those. The über toot clone is supposed to be outstanding but I already have a hurricane clone and authentic taifun so I'm looking for a new design.

There's a place for clones with me. The taifun gt2 hotcig clone really let me down. When everyone said it was he best going I figuredi should fight to return the two I had and get a used authentic for a bit more.

Please don't mistake me as saying clones always suck. I really don't think that. I do honk there's a time when given the community we are in we owed it to the boutiques who come up with something new and good to buy authentic too. Almost all the innovation in the last two years for the mainstream has come from notified manufacturers. So yah if I can I'll get an authentic.

I really want a piccoloid setup. I just can't afford €160 right now. If there was a clone well reviews I'd probably try it.

I am very pro
Clone on mech mods. To be honest. I think those are ridiculously priced most do the time. But there's nowhere near the r/d of an innovative atomizer.

Anyway. Clone don't clone I'm just relaying my thoughts on the hotcig clones of this piece. They were really bad. Twice in a row. By I liked he vape enough to know id be ok buying an authentic. I wen through a bad period wih fasttech where I ordered like $120 worth of stuff that all arrived broken and I was just fed up.

That said my experience wih mark bugs has been frustrating too. The gem clone looks terrible but I ordered clone glass tanks and hope they fit. Mark bugs glass tanks are terrible.

To the infinity coil

Here's one for the lung hitters. I've used these with temp control too for what it's worth. Been a while. I forgot how much I like them.



Here's a single coil with a smaller gauge but the other way round




So what other tanks have you guys found are really good clones lately? I was thinking of getting an erlkonigin clone or erlprinz (their own cheaper clone). Anyone tried either? Or is the über toot that much better than this taifun? The gem id say has better flavor. For most flavors. But it's a pain in the backside to build

 

[TrollDragon]

So what other tanks have you guys found are really good clones lately? I was thinking of getting an erlkonigin clone or erlprinz (their own cheaper clone). Anyone tried either? Or is the über toot that much better than this taifun? The gem id say has better flavor. For most flavors. But it's a pain in the backside to build

The SXK Squape Rs is a serious daily driver for me right now simple to build and excellent flavor. The filling is similar to the Rose V2 so I don't have a problem with a regular juice bottle filling it. If I could only have two RTAs to use and that would be it, one would be the Squape Rs and the other would be the Flash e-Vapor V3 with the glass tank kit. The FeV is the absolute easiest RTA to use, fill and maintain available.

The Gem...
I fought for 3 days to get that thing not to dry hit, finally managed to get the wicking sort of right and it doesn't dry hit anymore. It top fill's like the ErlK and I always have to invert it and blow out juice just like top filling a KFL. This is another issue related to my wicking that I have not perfected yet. The build deck is MINISCULE and the clearance from the roof of the chamber to the coil screws is really tiny.

They say how amazing the flavor is on the GEM, this I have yet to experience. Others have had no problem wicking it right from the start so YMMV.

 

[chanelvaps]

. When the clones are $20-25 per and you have to buy three and none of them have resale. When does it become better to just buy and sell authentics? You may lose $50 at the absolute most if you use an authentic for a vey very long time

In this instance I think I could not relate as I am not looking at resale possibilities. If I were it would matter. I see your point if you are looking at long term investment

 

[h00ligan]

In this instance I think I could not relate as I am not looking at resale possibilities. If I were it would matter. I see your point if you are looking at long term investment

Yah totally. For someone who wants to keep a bunch around etc

I would never have dreamt of buying authentics from boutiques a short while back until I hit a bad run of clones. I've still bought the hurricane since then. And by the way I don't consider the hurricane better than the taifun gt2. It's basically the he same
Internal a with a different airflow. Better airflow
For lung hitters I guess by to me doesn't seem like enough. I'm a mouth to lung guy so I don't see any benefit. But it's a good clone


So what have you bought recently clone wise you have been enjoying?

I'm still using the super cheap ego one for a nice flavor and tiny size to Take with me. I use the 1100mah battery with the 2.5ml tank, though I have two, one in each size. The CL coils suck imo but the clr which can be rebuilt are great for flavor. Standard horizontal builds in a tiny collector area = great flavor. So
I'll rebuild like ten coils in one sitting and do it every six weeks or so. It's not a clone but there's a cheap authentic setup which is great that I've bought lately.

Trying to think of what else. I'm interested inns Russian v3 when it gets cloned. $90-110 for a clone is ridiculous and that's all the Russian is.

What else should I be looking at on fasttech? Are there any 19mm mods or batteries there? I thought about trying the Ijust 2 cuz I can pair hat battery with the goblin mini for another small kit. Goblin mini is a bit of a pain to build but also has great flavor. It can leak if it's not wicked perfectly which isn't hard to do but may take a couple tries.

I'd love to start a thread for recommendations of clones available on fasttech

My latest purchase was the odyssey kit from
Aspire. Triton mini tank and Pegasus mini mod. No idea why it's called the odyssey kit. I'm about to do a video review on it

 

[dwcraig1]

@h00ligan
This is something that I have thoughtabout but would never post but the time has come I guess so here goes.
It is my opinion that the Hotcig TGT2 is dead on equal quality wise with the authentic and with the ability to remove the deck from the base makes it the "better mouse trap".
So what I'm hoping (asking) is just what part(s) do you feel are sub-par?

 

[h00ligan]

@h00ligan
This is something that I have thoughtabout but would never post but the time has come I guess so here goes.
It is my opinion that the Hotcig TGT2 is dead on equal quality wise with the authentic and with the ability to remove the deck from the base makes it the "better mouse trap".
So what I'm hoping (asking) is just what part(s) do you feel are sub-par?

So I had two issues wih both clones. Well three.

The positive post was very insecure for lack of a better way of putting it. It didn't seem to carry connectivity well at all. I would get grounding situations and fluctuating resistance a lot. Bear in mind I do a fair bit of building without issue. The second part of that was the screws. This is a minor issue because on a good clone you can order authentic parts kits to sort that it but hey we're very loose. I replaced he screws wih authentics and it didn't remedy the issue. Finally the top cap option with the o ring there. The irony never say properly so every time I had to clean it I either had the o ring falling off. Or it got stuck badly.

Now both of mine were ordered aback to back. It's very possible they came from the same batch and maybe that batch had issues. Around that time I also received a project sub ohm clone which was pretty cheap all the way around and honestly on a $40-50 authentic it's not usually worth getting a clone unless it's from The factory.


For what it's worth I have clone glass for my gt2 and it works great. If it wasn't for the resistance issues I would have been happy enough with the top cap and o ring issue just being annoying.

I felt the same thing that made t easier to clean really messed up the readings I was getting

I think some clones that are dead scans and prints if you will of the original are usually good. But then you fall into a corner copying a clone of a clone. It starts to get pretty bad. That's one reason why the more complicated the less likely I am to get a clone. Look at he gem clone on fasttech. It's terrible. I can already see that from the photos. Makes me wonder if they recreated it from a picture.

When I was dealing with the taifun gt2 clones I was also pretty freshly off smoking. I'd been vaping for over a year plus but I hadn't quit analogs fully. I didn't have a good setup at the time. Or a go to liquid. And I felt defeated heavily in my attempts. Dealing with the clones made me want to smoke. I was getting so frustrated.
I don't doubt some people have good gt2 clones. But I do think if you went hands on with the original most people
Could tell the difference in fit and finish.

One last thing. The chimney top cap is already annoying on the authentic. I found it even worse on the clones. One of them did t fit at all really. The o ring may have been to blame or the size. Not sure. But it wouldn't screw in period. It even arrived off and rattling around inside. Also every spare o ring kit o got had the wrong size and already split or broken o rings. It was a perfect storm of annoying issues.

I think one of the biggest things about clones is hit and miss quality. It seems to run batch dependent. Certainly that benefit is really lost when boutique manufacturers aren't completing proper quality checks. That's an issue I have with mark bugs right now. Charging almost $200 for an atomizer which still doesn't have top quality fit and finish is completely unacceptable as is ignoring support requests. But the GEM to me has the distinct privilege of tasting considerably better than any other atomizer I've tried. Still I really wish they would read my post about the lackluster experience I've had. I compare it to Leica. If you're taking that stance with your business you better deliver on all fronts. For what it's worth most of my issues were addressed by mark bugs sans the really had glass work they do.

The nice thing about clones is you can take them
It and about and not care if something gets messed up. It's pretty tough to swallow a $350 combo dropping to the black top. :O

 

[chanelvaps]

So what have you bought recently clone wise you have been enjoying?

I do not really shop around when it comes to atties. I have tried a few others and nothing compares. I have seen/heard about all the new ones that roll around constantly but I am pretty darn happy with my many variations of the Taifun. I have gone into B&M's and shared gear (change drip tip) and get a lot of love from my Taifuns by the folks that have the newest and greatest (or so they say)
There are a couple of long timers here that have many originals and many clones and they tell that there is not much difference.
I have bought 4-5 clones from FT and only have one not so great one that seems to be too small for an 11 O-ring and too big for a 10 (where chamber meets base)

 

[h00ligan]

Oh by the way the boxer dual 18650 Mod is perfect for the gt2 imo. It's awesome as a combination for the house. 5ml. Tons of battery. Both are light. I really recommend the boxer setups. The design flows well together I think too - you can judge from my picture. But as a pairing I love it. Nice ti build in there.

I have a kayfun v4 infinity clone. It's so tight I can't get anything working properly. What do you all do to fix overly tight tanks? Sand down the threads a little ? That's all I can think of. Juice control vs tank opening etc.

 

[h00ligan]

I do not really shop around when it comes to atties. I have tried a few others and nothing compares. I have seen/heard about all the new ones that roll around constantly but I am pretty darn happy with my many variations of the Taifun. I have gone into B&M's and shared gear (change drip tip) and get a lot of love from my Taifuns by the folks that have the newest and greatest (or so they say)
There are a couple of long timers here that have many originals and many clones and they tell that there is not much difference.
I have bought 4-5 clones from FT and only have one not so great one that seems to be too small for an 11 O-ring and too big for a 10 (where chamber meets base)

Well like I said it Could well be I had two from a bad batch. I can only say the two hotcig clones I had sucked. I don't believe all clones suck and I'm not totally against them by any means.

 

[dwcraig1]

By positive post do you mean the little 510 screw or where the coil leg is attached?

 

[dwcraig1]

Oh by the way the boxer dual 18650 Mod is perfect for the gt2 imo. It's awesome as a combination for the house. 5ml. Tons of battery. Both are light. I really recommend the boxer setups. The design flows well together I think too - you can judge from my picture. But as a pairing I love it. Nice ti build in there.

I have a kayfun v4 infinity clone. It's so tight I can't get anything working properly. What do you all do to fix overly tight tanks? Sand down the threads a little ? That's all I can think of. Juice control vs tank opening etc.

It's most likely getting stuck on the o-rings.

 

[h00ligan]

Gt2 with steam tuners tank on provari p3 in 350 mode. This is a pretty light setup for a quick out. Let's see your setups!

It's most likely getting stuck on the o-rings.

I checked that. Not the issue. The juice control has thick internal pieces and it's not those. It seems like the internals are a bit big. I believe others had this issue. Kind of funny because I had a 1:1 listed clone right when the kayfun v4 and it was perfect by missing a part. I haven't been able to find another rest kf4 clone since. I've tried 3 others. Just bad luck I guess. The first one was made by someone I've never heard of too.

Anyone do the infinity coil yet? Thoughts

 

[h00ligan]

Well i was going to post in ought an Expromizer but that's cancelled. Loud as hell and 23mm. Nope. What a bummer.

 

[Alien Traveler]

That just hasn't been my experience more often than not. The more complicated the design the worse the clone. I just saw some mark bugs gem clones and even in pictures they look terrible.

I think there are some very good clones out there. This one piece I couldn't find one that worked worth a damn but I wasn't willing to put $100 into finding one vs buying an authentic second hand. When the clones are $20-25 per and you have to buy three and none of them have resale. When does it become better to just buy and sell authentics? You may lose $50 at the absolute most if you use an authentic for a vey very long time. If you use it for six months and choose something in relative demand you lose $30. Which isn't much more than buying one clone and probably less than buying two or three to find a good one.

If it was easier to return stuff to fasttech I'd probably buy more clones again. I have a few clones here that I love. Starting with the ehpro kayfun lite plus v2 which to me is better than the authentic due to dual air holes. Another great clone. Tobeco hurricane - my bottom pin was wonky and it doesn't have spring loading but in practical use its great. The reseller also offered to swap it on eBay by I didn't end up needing too. I feel the hurricane people totally ripped off taifun design as did the über toot. I have no problem buying clones of either of those. The über toot clone is supposed to be outstanding but I already have a hurricane clone and authentic taifun so I'm looking for a new design.

There's a place for clones with me. The taifun gt2 hotcig clone really let me down. When everyone said it was he best going I figuredi should fight to return the two I had and get a used authentic for a bit more.

Please don't mistake me as saying clones always suck. I really don't think that. I do honk there's a time when given the community we are in we owed it to the boutiques who come up with something new and good to buy authentic too. Almost all the innovation in the last two years for the mainstream has come from notified manufacturers. So yah if I can I'll get an authentic.

I really want a piccoloid setup. I just can't afford €160 right now. If there was a clone well reviews I'd probably try it.

I am very pro
Clone on mech mods. To be honest. I think those are ridiculously priced most do the time. But there's nowhere near the r/d of an innovative atomizer.

Anyway. Clone don't clone I'm just relaying my thoughts on the hotcig clones of this piece. They were really bad. Twice in a row. By I liked he vape enough to know id be ok buying an authentic. I wen through a bad period wih fasttech where I ordered like $120 worth of stuff that all arrived broken and I was just fed up.

That said my experience wih mark bugs has been frustrating too. The gem clone looks terrible but I ordered clone glass tanks and hope they fit. Mark bugs glass tanks are terrible.

To the infinity coil

Here's one for the lung hitters. I've used these with temp control too for what it's worth. Been a while. I forgot how much I like them.



Here's a single coil with a smaller gauge but the other way round




So what other tanks have you guys found are really good clones lately? I was thinking of getting an erlkonigin clone or erlprinz (their own cheaper clone). Anyone tried either? Or is the über toot that much better than this taifun? The gem id say has better flavor. For most flavors. But it's a pain in the backside to build

Thank you. Buy paying for authentics you are supporting engineering of these companies, so I can buy clones. I would never buy authentics, I do not like their mode of business.
Buy the way my Taifun by HotCig performs flawlessly, as well as my other clones by Infinity and Tobeco.

 

[ccwaters]

I just deleted 6 paragraphs regarding the quality of many of the clones mentioned in the last few posts, and how I felt about quality, Hemo, and reality.

Rather than fuel the age old debate, I'm just going to say Over the last year or so China has removed it's proverbial head from dark places.

So what have we seen come from China? Quality is up among many of the Clone makers Tobeco is probably the brightest star in this category.

But more importantly, we are seeing a trend of Original designs, copies of popular items with improvements and innovations. Atomizers like Aromamizer, Bellus, Crius, Indulgence MT, Cthulu, billow, the list could go on for sometime. All very affordable.

I love fancy atomizers, and shiny new tubes, but the relevance of HEMO devices just isn't what it used to be.

Taifuns, Gems, Kayfuns, Squapes, ETC., on & on. I honestly find myself reaching for one of the new China made devices more often then not. And while quality may not be perfect in every instance, investment VS performance is undeniably in favor of the consumer.

 

[dwcraig1]

Taifun had the right idea in the beginning with the TGT1 by reducing the air path at it's exit not at the entrance like just about everything out there now. I'll just stop here.

 

[schatz]

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[schatz]

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Does anyone know if this is accurate info for the GT IIs from Hotcig.