Tariffs on Chinese goods could batter the U.S. vaping industry

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(Reuters) - Proposed tariffs on U.S. imports from China of electronic cigarettes, known as vaping products, could not come at a worse time for the industry.
New levies would increase prices just as the industry is facing slowing growth and as it begins to add new health warnings to packaging.
Tariffs on Chinese goods could batter the U.S. vaping industry
 

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What's sad, tariffs are supposed to "level the playing field". If there were any mods actually made in the US the 25% tax still would leave China's mods much cheaper.

Not about the ecig part of the issue because there's no real leveling to be done, but if taxes are the answer to leveling any playing field, how about taxing the million dollar CEO's incomes since they are not usually the ones who are making the companies enough profit to justify that kind of wage? (And I'm not saying taxes are the answer, just that taxing us little people 25% while cutting taxes on the Mr Big's isn't going to solve anything.)
 

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I've already paid a rather hefty tariff on buying used Provape things that were manufactured in the US.

And yeah, I get it, I get it, no one likes to pay more for stuff, but I'm all for encouraging US based vendors. While I don't NEED another Kabuki, I will every now and then pay MORE for something if they have what I want for not a crazy amount more, simply to support a US based business that made more out of the Nautilus coil than any China manufacturer could seem to do.

I am kind of neutral on tariffs and net positive on US jobs for the future, and if the standard is "cheap" than how hard does a Chinese manufacturer have to work to make up the difference?

You get what you pay for, but if the standard is "cheap" well, you can wind up getting what you pay for. Etc.

I like a little variety obviously but I don't believe that US manufacturing should be discouraged either. There is absolutely NO reason for the income inequality in the US, however, and I most certainly agree that the ones who maybe least can "afford" the tax are the ones who often wind up paying "the tax."

But I'm not going to go "woe is me" either, nor am I ALSO going to go all tariffs are all good, or all bad. I just... am not.

China's been ah dividing and conquering the US for some time now, economically, they are SO FAR ahead in comparison to Russia as a threat to the US.

I also remember a time when there were enough living wage jobs that everything didn't have to be outsourced to children, and it was good for EVERYBODY including the living wage one household earners who supported their family and raising ones kids to adulthood wasn't an exercise in terror, uncertainty and unstable child care situations, I certainly don't much care for the modern family TODAY, and sure, women should be paid the same amount, so the dads can stay home and raise the kids if they so desire.

I mean, you should see what BENEFITS the French provide, to parents to have kids not to mention other EU countries, because like, OKAY maybe it is IN PART for the benefit of their citizenry, but like ALSO the birth rate there is SO LOW that they have to be all "free and openish" to legal immigration, merely to keep their population NUMBERS UP.

It's all well and good to go "wah" for a tax, it is ALSO well and good to remember that China is our Best Enemy and Worst Friend at times. Etc.

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The cause and problem of our declining economies (the whole world actually) is a self inflicted one. Just about all manufacturers in the western world jumped on the wagon in sending almost all their manufacturing to China as a means to cut prices. They undermined each other and cut the throats of their own economies.
They basically given away our jobs to satisfy their shareholders lust for money.
Tariffs and Taxes won't stop the trend. It'll only complicate it....that's for sure...
 

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Has anyone paid tariffs yet on FT purchases?
not yet, got 2 in July no problem

Seen a report where China has many warehouses full of imported stuff they can not move because nobody is willing to pay the US tariff fees.US companies are the ones getting reemed
 

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Has anyone paid tariffs yet on FT purchases?

If/when the 25% Tariffs (as mentioned in the Reuters article) kick in...the only way you (as a US consumer) will know...will be by FT's increased prices...

FT pays a 25% Tariff => FT raises their prices by 25% => ship to US => US vapers pay 25% more...

That's the way Tariffs work...the Chinese government does NOT pay the Tariffs...the Chinese corporations do NOT pay the Tariffs (they just pass them along)...the US government does NOT pay the Tariffs...it's the US consumers that (end up) paying the Tariffs...

(WOW!!! We'll sure teach them a lesson...:shock:)...

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If/when the 25% Tariffs (as mentioned in the Reuters article) kick in...the only way you (as a US consumer) will know...will be by FT's increased prices...

FT pays a 25% Tariff => FT raises their prices by 25% => ship to US => US vapers pay 25% more...

That's the way Tariffs work...the Chinese government does NOT pay the Tariffs...the Chinese corporations do NOT pay the Tariffs (they just pass them along)...the US government does NOT pay the Tariffs...it's the US consumers that (end up) paying the Tariffs...

(WOW!!! We'll sure teach them a lesson...:shock:)...

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I used to import a product from Canada in bulk, the import tax I had to pay was around $25.00 and I had received that extra bill from the US shipper, it was labeled import customs duty. It was not an extra charge from the seller, it was charged by our own US import tax from customs. So it should come from customs and the us shipper collects it before the item is delivered. Just wondering if anyone has got a customs bill yet. My product was delivered by UPS or a freight company.
 

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In bulk goods that are resold, the import duty is tacked on to the resale price, it just ups the base cost. Consumers will get screwed all over the world because of tariffs and many consumers will boycott items. Recipe for hurting everyone's economy. Not good.
 

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    According to the article they say 15%
    "The tariffs could drive up the price of a vape by about 15 percent, according to industry estimates"
    Don't know if it's true, but I heard it doesn't go into effect until Sept 1.
    Ft will not be collecting any tariffs. It will be up to customs/USPS to collect, which I can't see feasible for individual sales. The logistics would be a nightmare, but who knows....
     

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    I can only imagine problems for smokers who would like to switch to e-cigs, cause the vape-veterans already have a lot of mechs, mods, RBA's, RDA's, RDTA's, batteries, coil-rebuilding material, VG, PG, nicboosters, flavors, etc. Freezers and refrigerators full.

    What do I miss? :?:
     

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    Well I just read an article that says a foreign seller would have to pay the tariffs for the products to be accepted as an import, but if the foreigner seller would not pay the buyer would. It gets a bit confusing!


    My guess is, the foreign seller isn't gonna pay.


    Yes they will, after they add the tariffs to our bill when we are purchasing items. That's my guess. So, if the importer has to pay up front, does the receiver still have to pay entrance fees into the US?

    You are right, it gets into muddy waters. I thing we may be safe in that part because I read that for internet sales under $2000. that customs doesn't even bother....but then again, its the value customs would place on items, not the importer.
     

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    Has anyone paid tariffs yet on FT purchases?
    Not yet, I have a package in customs in China and they just kept updating the same thing for 2 weeks on the trackers. Last update was on 8/6 so I hope this time it really did get on the plane.

    @b.m. says his was caught in US customs and they finally released it for mailing. Maybe he will let us know what happened.

    :)
     

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    Not yet, I have a package in customs in China and they just kept updating the same thing for 2 weeks on the trackers. Last update was on 8/6 so I hope this time it really did get on the plane.

    @b.m. says his was caught in US customs and they finally released it for mailing. Maybe he will let us know what happened.

    :)
    Still waiting to find out.It was cleared after being pulled through US Customs,but USPS failed on their expected delivery date,which was supposed to be today,so hopefully it will show up Monday.Definitely curious myself to see what if anything comes from the situation.
     
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